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Re: Season 6 Commentaries

Postby tommo » Mon May 12, 2003 5:58 pm

Smashed, commentary by Drew Z. Greenberg



Just a quick word to say that some of this is hilarious, especially the whole "Joss should be a gay guy" thing. Dear Lord. Some people...



Anyway, there's a lot of Willow stuff in this ep, which is good, and lots of Spuffy stuff, which isn't. Bleh. Commentary snippets below...



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He talks about the spell he wrote to de-rat Amy and how he wanted it to be in Italian. The problems with that were that someone had to translate it, and then Aly had to say it. He said that this is the last spell he wrote for Willow in another language, and the one he wrote in S7, Ep 6 was in English.



Scene with Willow, Amy and Buffy in Willow’s bedroom



And here’s a really good example of how we’re trying to pick up the threads from the season and move them forward a little bit. Episode 4 introduced us to the dynamic between Willow and Giles; they had a little bit of a confrontation regarding Willow’s use of magic, and we got to see some of Willow’s growing sense of self importance, of her confidence, maybe confidence bordering into something bigger and more aggressive, and this is pretty much a blatant attempt to pick up on that and move it forward, and of course we know, we’re heading towards the end of the season in which Willow’s magic will get completely out of control. So we’re laying in the groundwork here. Willow’s description of her…of her bringing Amy back is not humble and Buffy may be pretty freaked out but Willow’s proud and even though Tara’s left because of Willow’s overuse of magic, Willow hasn’t quite gotten it yet.



Scene with Tara, Dawn and a LOT of milkshake



This was fun. This is the first episode after Tara and Willow’s breakup and it’s the beginning of the process that we all were trying to effect, the process by which Tara would subtly grow and change, I think, um, become, even a little bit stronger after the breakup. She…I think that it was an interesting character development for her that she became a little bit more secure in herself after she left Willow, to the extent that when Willow and Tara finally do get back together it’s on Tara’s terms. It’s something that they’re both ready for at that point. Up until this point Tara has been kind-hearted, and loving and supportive, um, but this is a chance to show her in a slightly different light which is standing on her own two feet and what we see here was our attempt, our, the writing staff trying to illustrate the dynamic of Tara as sort of a surrogate mom to Dawn…this…this…family of characters is trying to raise Dawn, in the absence of Dawn’s mother, after Dawn’s mother passed away last season, and yet Tara’s no longer part of the family on a day to day basis so this was our chance to show sort of the…divorced parents conversation where Tara explains to Dawn that she’ll always be there for her. And I think in the process, we really get to show Tara secure in that, that no matter what else happens Tara believes strongly in maintaining her relationship with Dawn.



Magic Box Scene



And here’s a little bit of foreshadowing. Joss very much wanted to show the audience that Willow’s power was growing by delineating what she is now from what she used to be. She used to be a computer hacker, and the computer was her happy sidekick. Here she is using the computer in a whole new way, just going with the magical easy way and using her power to get what she needs. Of course later on in the season, we’ll see her doing the same move with her magic texts in the Magic Box – with Anya’s magic texts in the Magic Box, and not even having to read the books, just sticking her hands into them to get the information and the power out of them. Joss…that came out of Joss’ big brain and this was his chance to…sort of foreshadow what was happening, I think, what was happening with Willow, how she would eventually go to those texts.



And this is the beginning of Willow’s cluelessness about everyone’s attitude regarding her use of magic. And Anya being forthright, which we all love. And here’s…here’s the thing; Tara’s left because of Willow’s overuse of magic; Giles had a confrontation with Willow about her overuse of magic and despite all of that, Willow will continue to maintain that everything is fine. She’s…she’s fine, she’s handling everything fine, and even her relationship with Tara is…you can tell from her dialogue is just…taking a rest and everything’s been blown out of proportion because they’re going to sort through things and get back to it. There’s a little bit of denial going on.



Scene with Amy and Willow in Buffy’s house



Now here’s Amy…we’re beginning to see Amy a little bit twitchy, um, she’s missing her magic and Willow is…lonely. And that’s mostly what we’re trying to convey here and Aly does such a great job of letting us know that no matter what she’s saying, there’s this undercurrent of loneliness, sadness, and no matter how funny the words, no matter how ordinary the words that is always sort of conveyed in her eyes and that’s why Amy is able to play on Willow’s emotions. Willow may not want to go but Amy’s gonna go do the one thing that’s going to get Willow out of the house. Willow’s lonely and Amy’s going to call upon Willow’s high school experience…and that does it. And Alyson Hannigan is the most adorable person in the world…now!



Scene when Dawn and Tara return to the Summers’ House



I remember talking to Michelle and Amber, the day that they shot this scene, and I of course was, in my head, thinking ‘I’m sorry the story only calls for you guys to be in two scenes in this episode, I’m sorry’ and they were like ‘no dude, we love the break’. More than that though, the thing that both, each of them said to me separately was how much they enjoyed working with the other one and how very rarely they get to do that and they were both kind of excited about having a couple of scenes in this episode where they got to sit with each other and play, in a way that they never got to. And that was kind of nice to hear.



Scene in the Bronze



Here’s Willow and Amy playing pool, but without pool cues of course, because it’s magic. This was the first scene shot of the episode, if I’m not mistaken. (long pause until the part where the two guys approach Willow and Amy) These guys deserve a special gold star, uh, Jordan and Adam, definitely troopers, who spent, let’s face it, a day or two sitting around in pretty much gold lame bikini briefs, um, and maintained their dignity while doing it, uh, they absolutely remained in good spirits and that’s to their credit.



The initial pitch for this scene…of course, the way this scene plays out is that um, the boys will eventually turn on Willow, wanting to spend more time with Amy, and giving Willow a hard time and Willow takes revenge in her own special way. Um, my initial pitch to Joss, this is way back on in the early process before we started even doing the outline, my initial pitch was that Willow should snap her fingers and these two aggressive, heterosexual frat boys were going to start making out with each other, and in fact find themselves unable to stop…unable to stop kissing each other, unable to stop making out with each other, and here’s where we realise that Joss’ brain really is better than the rest of us, um, he came back and said you know, I see where you’re going with this but I don’t think I want to do it that way and here’s why and he gave me two reasons; one, was that he didn’t want ever to give the impression that a person could snap their fingers and change their sexuality, and two, he never wanted to make it look like a boy kissing another boy should be a punishment. So that was when I realised a) I was in the hands of the master who knew what he was doing and who had a very very good head on his shoulders but also, Joss Whedon being straight is pretty much the biggest waste of all. He would have made such a great gay guy.



I think it’s also relevant to point out that anybody who’s familiar with my work before Buffy the Vampire Slayer knows that at this point I was a little concerned that my niche was about to become shows with dancing boys in cages. I think we…not that I’m complaining, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but um, I’m happy to say that I’ve sort of branched out since then.



Third Scene in the Bronze



Again, this is an example of Willow needing something but maybe not knowing exactly what it is, and using the magic to get there.





"Dude, you just rescued a puppy!"

tommo
 


Re: Season 6

Postby fontaine13 » Mon May 12, 2003 10:57 pm

OK I watched most of the Arts and Sciences panel and I have to add that NB should also stop prattling on too. OK I've gotten that off my chest now

"This is my family. I found
it all on my own. It's little and broken but good, yeah, still good"



fontaine13
 


OMWF CD signing from DVD easter egg

Postby srwalker » Tue May 13, 2003 12:50 am

Caps of the kittens at the OMWF signing.



Got Tara

Kitten shirt

Group photo

srwalker
 


Re: Season 6

Postby the vamp nurd » Tue May 13, 2003 2:28 am

How about David Soloman calling W/T "America's favourite lesbian couple."



In Hell's Bells.



God doesn't the two guys doing normal again waffle????



Joss spinning Amber around and doing ballet :lol



He maybe a :joss .



But it was damn funny to see that. Also Drew Z Greenberg's comment too... :D :pride .



:letter



Willow (with pointy ears): "NO kissing and gay love?!!!! That's illogical!" The Sci-Fi Bard W/T trekkie ramblings.



Bardlet no #27



"Why Mother because I won't be baking cookies for the mental patients at the county Hospital?" Alex It's In The Water

the vamp nurd
 


Re: OMWF CD signing from DVD easter egg

Postby fontaine13 » Tue May 13, 2003 3:08 am

Have you watched the outtakes? I love that one from Bargaining where Xander says off screen "What time do we meet?" and Aly says "Right after my acting class"

"This is my family. I found
it all on my own. It's little and broken but good, yeah, still good"



fontaine13
 


Re: Season 6

Postby tommo » Tue May 13, 2003 5:06 am

I keep playing back the beginning of that, just to see Emma shouting "Whore!" at herself. :lol



I knew there was a reason I loved that woman. Hee. Whore!



"Dude, you just rescued a puppy!"

tommo
 


Re: Season 6

Postby xita » Tue May 13, 2003 8:38 am

ooh thanks srwalkerthat's great, I remember that day well! SO glad to see at least visibly we made the DVD :p

xita
 


Re: Season 6

Postby ukxenafan » Tue May 13, 2003 1:30 pm

Quote:
I keep playing back the beginning of that, just to see Emma shouting "Whore!" at herself.




You know I thought she was saying "horror" !! I assumed it was her "duh, silly me" comment.....whore is MUCH funnier :)



Its that US vs Brit accent thing, like Tara=terror :D

ukxenafan
 


Screen caps

Postby fontaine13 » Tue May 13, 2003 1:35 pm

OK I've added a small selection of screen caps to my site. I will be adding more later tonight. Enjoy! Link is below, just go to the screen caps section



www.fontaine.comcen.com.au



ETA: I've just uploaded a couple more from Once More With Feeling.

"This is my family. I found
it all on my own. It's little and broken but good, yeah, still good"



Edited by: fontaine13 at: 5/14/03 12:07:21 am
fontaine13
 


Re: Season 6

Postby sparrow » Tue May 13, 2003 2:55 pm

Woo hoo, glad to see I wasn't deleted from the photo. Yea z, remember that day well. That was the best day of my life caused by a little cutting in line.





And yet, I just can't seem to care
Everything here is hard and bright and violent. Everything I feel, everything I touch, this is hell."

sparrow
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby xita » Tue May 13, 2003 4:02 pm

And hey, it's now captured on DVD :grin

xita
 


Re: Season 6

Postby sparrow » Tue May 13, 2003 4:31 pm

and it wouldn't have been possible without you z :bow





And yet, I just can't seem to care
Everything here is hard and bright and violent. Everything I feel, everything I touch, this is hell."

sparrow
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby Scout » Tue May 13, 2003 7:40 pm

Nice site, fontaine. And thanks for the nice, big kiss caps. You can almost count their eyelashes. :)



BTW, I know it doesn't have anything to do with W/T, but I love the font you use on your site, although I'm not sure what it is - cool look.



Thanks!

Scout
 


Re: Season 6

Postby xita » Tue May 13, 2003 8:19 pm

di those are great :) Makes me so happy to see such gorgeous kisses, perfect kisses. :)



thank you :love :bigkiss

xita
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby fontaine13 » Wed May 14, 2003 1:53 am

You are all most welcome.



Scout: The font I use is called "slayer" and is actually supposed to be the same as the one they use on the credits on the show.



Oh and I know this isn't strictly W/T, but, I just added a video clip of the abovementioned outtakes to my Misc Clips section.



www.fontaine.comcen.com.au

"This is my family. I found
it all on my own. It's little and broken but good, yeah, still good"



Edited by: fontaine13 at: 5/14/03 12:54:17 am
fontaine13
 


Re: Season 6

Postby the vamp nurd » Wed May 14, 2003 2:35 am

I must be the only person who found I think was Emma licking Aly's face amusing in the out takes.



And the Barging with Marti and David Fury, god that was funny. In a really bizarre way. the vamp nurd looks for a way out.



"Hey there's the hot lesbian action for the epsoide." Marti.



"No they had a kiss in the hall." David.



:letter



:pride

Willow (with pointy ears): "NO kissing and gay love?!!!! That's illogical!" The Sci-Fi Bard W/T trekkie ramblings.



Bardlet no #27



"Why Mother because I won't be baking cookies for the mental patients at the county Hospital?" Alex It's In The Water

the vamp nurd
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby Scout » Wed May 14, 2003 3:34 am

Oh, thanks for the outtakes clip! Aly and Emma are so cute.



And I knew that font looked familiar. Thanks for the info! :)

Scout
 


Re: Season 6

Postby tommo » Wed May 14, 2003 5:04 am

Yeah, the face licking is great, heh heh. Aly's face is a picture during the whole of that.



Still laughing about "Whore!" though... :lol



And Di, your site is wonderful. God only knows why I never visited it before. Much picture-y goodness. :) Thanks for the effort you've put into this.



"Dude, you just rescued a puppy!"

tommo
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby LokiPromise » Wed May 14, 2003 12:15 pm

Lol, she does say that a lot but those outtakes are great, just got my copy today and it seems that the additional features in general were better IMO and featured actually interesting interviews and featurettes.

BB:Hello Xander...and Anya, how is your money?!

A:Fine!Thank you for asking!

LokiPromise
 


Re: Season 6

Postby Rally » Thu May 15, 2003 12:02 am

Quote:
And hey, it's now captured on DVD




Good god that's a lot of chest...

Well officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about

Rally
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby Jennpurr » Thu May 15, 2003 12:24 am

*snort*



:rofl

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Re: Season 6

Postby fontaine13 » Thu May 15, 2003 4:21 am

OK me again, I've added some caps from Life Serial (breast gal ) and Tabula Rasa



www.fontaine.comcen.com.au





"This is my family. I found
it all on my own. It's little and broken but good, yeah, still good"



fontaine13
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby xita » Thu May 15, 2003 8:19 am

Di, spectacular! I love tab ras, I can't get enough of that and you got breast gal too ;) yummy!

xita
 


Re: Season 6

Postby Puff » Thu May 15, 2003 12:30 pm

Thanks for the outtakes clip that was fun :)



Cheese. It's milk that you chew.

Puff
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby the vamp nurd » Fri May 16, 2003 3:54 am

Am I the only person who thinks when Tara smirks about Willow's comment funny?



:pride



:letter

Willow (with pointy ears): "NO kissing and gay love?!!!! That's illogical!" The Sci-Fi Bard W/T trekkie ramblings.



Bardlet no #27



"Why Mother because I won't be baking cookies for the mental patients at the county Hospital?" Alex It's In The Water

the vamp nurd
 


Another clip

Postby fontaine13 » Sat May 17, 2003 1:29 am

Me yet again, this time I've added a clip of Amber from the OMWF featurette. It's in the Misc clips section.



www.fontaine.comcen.com.au





"This is my family. I found
it all on my own. It's little and broken but good, yeah, still good"



Edited by: fontaine13 at: 5/17/03 12:30:25 am
fontaine13
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby urnofosiris » Sat May 17, 2003 3:47 am

Thanks :) Those clips were great, it is so nice to see glimpses of Amber and Aly off screen, and I love what Amber had to say about Willow and Tara.

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Coffee, Food, Kisses and Gay Love........Get it while you are hot

urnofosiris
 


screen caps

Postby stereo33 » Sat May 17, 2003 7:46 am

Fantastic caps - Thank You :)

stereo33
 


Re: Screen caps

Postby xita » Sat May 17, 2003 10:19 am

You are so right di! It had bits we'd seen before in that clip they released when the show aired, but it had so much more. Amber is really great, that was awesome.

xita
 


Re: screen caps

Postby Scout » Wed May 21, 2003 4:20 pm

Thanks for the new caps and video. Wonderful stuff! :)

Scout
 

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