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 Post subject: Re: Names, names and more names!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:13 pm 
Okay, Gem check your email. :)



Awesome chapter.... I loved all the names and the comments that came with them. Now I'm all happy and bouncy.....like this guy- :bounce



Thanks!!!!

-LC

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RealLiveTara is my RealLiveGirlfriend! *swoons*

"It doesn't have to be a really frenchish french, I just wanna feel your tongue."- my girlfriend last night.

"I don't wanna come out of the closet. All my clothes are in there!" -Me



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 Post subject: Re: Names, names and more names!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 8:28 pm 
I gotta go with Xander’s choice. Been a fan of the name Catherine for a long while, nice to know what it means. It’s beautiful.



Willow and the white rabbit, I can almost see that priceless expression on Anya’s face.



Loved the update and I look forward to reading more. Thank You.



Patty





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 Post subject: Re: Names, names and more names!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 12:56 pm 
Hi kittens! Thank you for all your replies, I really enjoy reading them but unfortunately have had no time to reply... this is a fleeting visit... I haven't read the Pens updates in 3 whole days! *shock shock, horror horror!*



I'm glad you all like the names, Catherine seems to be the favourite. I think it fits best as they are the Purity Goddesses, or the Two That Are Blessed, and Catherine means pure.



Update should be up by the end of the weekend, probably Saturday night/Sunday morning.



Gem



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 Post subject: Re: Names, names and more names!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 5:11 pm 
Ok, so the update obviously did not make it up for that weekend! It should be up pretty soon, though, as I'm on Christmas holiday now.



Merry Christmas, kittens!



Gem



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 Post subject: Re: Names, names and more names!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 12:01 am 
Oh good, you aren't dead or something bad like that. I was starting to worry.



:wink

-LC

~*~

RealLiveTara is my RealLiveGirlfriend! *swoons*

"It doesn't have to be a really frenchish french, I just wanna feel your tongue."- my girlfriend last night.

"I don't wanna come out of the closet. All my clothes are in there!" -Me



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 Post subject: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 3:42 pm 
Update, kittens... will post comments later as am in a rush.



Part 14a – Families



Tara smiled as she snuggled further into Willow’s embrace. They were at home now – blessed home, in their own room at the Summers house. What was even better was that Buffy and Dawn were both out and likely to be for hours longer.



The only problem was, they were both too exhausted to take advantage of that fact. They had stayed up late into the night arguing with the Scoobies, first of all bantering lightly until the hurt had settled in. Tara hated to hurt them, she really did, but she just felt, and Willow agreed, that it was unlucky for anyone besides the parents to know a child’s name until it’s birth. That was the one tradition that had been used in both of their families, and they intended to continue it.



Tara was blissfully unaware that her peaceful status would not continue. Sheila stood, silent, outside of their door, her hand poised to ring the doorbell.



Taking a deep breath, Sheila attempted once more to ring the doorbell, and didn’t succeed. She could feel Delyth beside her, had felt her calming influence despite the fact that the elder Maclay had not appeared in body, knowing that this day was not about her. It was about Sheila, and it was about Willow and Tara, and it was about her daughter. She also knew that had Tara seen her, all thoughts of talking to Willow’s mother would have disappeared for both Wiccans.



Delyth whispered in her mind. Sheila obeyed, her hand shaking so hard she swore she felt Delyth’s fingers press gently over her own to aid her.



Willow groaned as the bell rang, it’s loud ding-dong echoing throughout the house. “Don’t wanna answer it,” she whined into Tara’s arms.



“Then don’t,” Tara suggested practically, knowing that Willow would anyway.



Willow omitted another noise, which Tara couldn’t quite identify, and stomped out of the room, it’s childish appeal somewhat contradicted by the delicate rounding of her stomach, and made her way downstairs, wishing all the way that she was still in Tara’s arms.



All thoughts of Tara flew out of her mind, possibly for the first moment since she’d met her. A tiny whisper extracted itself from her mouth – how, she didn’t know, since she had no knowledge of saying anything – and all Sheila heard was a small squeak and a gasped, “Mom.”



Sheila tentatively smiled at her daughter – her beautiful daughter, so young and yet so old, the daughter that she’d never wanted to know. How could she have treated Willow in this way? Willow, the only thing in her life worth living for since she’d lost Delyth. She’d denied herself the chance to see how the world worked, and she thanked the Goddesses every day that her daughter and her lover did not only have the chance to view the world, they were able to change it. To live, and to have something worth living for.



“May I come in?” Sheila’s voice was unsure – after all, did she really deserve this? – and Willow noticed it. Opening her mouth to reply, she found the bitterness created through long years of loneliness taking over her body, and she could not find the words in her vocabulary to reassure her mother.



“Of course you may,” Tara responded as she made her way down the stairs. She’d been aware of Sheila’s presence, and had given Willow the privacy she felt her lover might need. Now, though, Willow needed her. “Come in, Sheila.”



Sheila nodded gratefully, and stepped into the house, immediately realising the existence of the magick protective shield surrounding it, with practised senses. Her daughter stepped back to allow her to enter, hands gratefully reaching for Tara’s, which wound their way around her waist in a comfortable pattern. Willow relished the contact, barely noticing that just a year ago, she would have shied away from the contact, afraid of her mother’s disapproval. It didn’t matter any more. Tara was proud of her and her accomplishments, Giles was accepting of her and her sexuality as something that they were all proud of, but mostly, Willow was proud of herself.



“What brings you here, Mom?” Willow asked bluntly as soon as they were all seated and Tara had provided her and Sheila with coffee and Willow with the less caffeinated tea.



Exhaling slowly, Sheila realised that Willow was far more like her than either of them cared to admit – polite chit-chat achieved nothing but boredom. Placing her coffee-cup on the table, she turned to her future daughter-in-law. “Tara, how much did your mother tell you while you were resting?”



Willow choked on her tea. “Excuse me?” she spluttered. “How exactly do you know about what happened to Tara? Or her mother, for that matter?”



“Please, Willow, listen to me. It’s important,” Sheila begged. Willow refrained from asking what right her mother had to ask for her attention, and nodded grudgingly. Sheila turned back to Tara, green eyes pleading for her help.



“We didn’t really have all that much chance to talk,” Tara said slowly, “ but she talked about the Elders, and our duties, and Willow.”



The elder Rosenberg nodded impatiently. “Yes, but what did she say about herself?”



“Very little,” Tara responded, realising not for the first time how little she knew about her mother. It was one of the deep connections that had brought her and Willow together. “All she said was that she was meant to carry the mantle that we do, but her destiny was changed.” She looked curiously at Sheila. “How do you know this?”



Truth, Sheila thought with a smile as she was reminded of the Truth and Dare game that she had played in college. She’d done too much lying, and too much daring. “I am the one that changed her destiny. I was her Willow, Tara.”



Willow blinked, and their child kicked, in shock she was certain. Tara was looking steadfastly at Sheila, not in shock, or hurt, but simple acceptance. “Why?” she asked softly, asking Sheila with her eyes to continue. “If you changed her destiny, you killed my mother, and your soulmate. You know that, don’t you?”



“Tara, I’ve known that for every day since I left, and I regretted it up until the day that you two met,” Sheila responded wearily. “I did it because I saw the future, and Delyth and I were not meant to be the Two Who Are Blessed. You two were, and so I had to leave. I told myself, day after day, that it was for the greater good, and when you two met, I knew that it was.”



Willow cut in abruptly. “You were in love with Tara’s mom?” she asked unbelievingly. A thousand accusations of incest rushed through her mind, and Sheila smiled as she saw what her daughter was thinking.



“Yes, I was. I left because I had to, not because I didn’t love her any more. I will always love your mother, Tara, but it wasn’t my right to love her. It is your right to love Willow.” Sheila’s voice was wavering, and tiredness was showing on her face as she reached for her coffee cup with a shaking hand.



“Stop blocking me,” Tara told her. “I’m not looking past your block, but I can if I need to. It’s tiring you.”



Sheila frowned in confusion as she wondered what the blonde was talking about, and then she remembered. Tara had her mother’s gift to see auras, and she supposed that Tara was unable to see her aura. Only, she had never mastered the gift of blocking auras. It was the cancer that was tiring her, not witchcraft. The only reason that Tara couldn’t read her aura was because Delyth was protecting it. She couldn’t know, not now. Sheila would tell them both when it was time.



Tara: There's just so much to work through... and can you just be kissing me now?



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 4:26 pm 
Kittens, I know I've been less than regular with my updates lately, and I'm sorry. A few have emailed me complaining about this, and though I'm flattered that you want to read the updates, I won't accept rudeness when I think it's pretty obvious I'm updating as often as possible. Things have become very hectic lately, and I'm afraid that writing has had to take a back seat to my schoolwork. Now it's Christmas Break though, I can update more often.



I'm sorry I had to say that to all of you... I just thought that it should be mentioned. Almost all of you are wonderful when I promise updates and for some reason can't post them, and I hope that will change soon.



Gem



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 4:32 pm 
Excellent update, was wondering when Shelia would get up the nerve to confess.



Will be interested in how the girls handle this news!

BV

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"

Melissa Etheridge-Skin



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 4:36 pm 
Excellent update, was wondering when Shelia would get up the nerve to confess.



Will be interested in how the girls handle this news!

BV

P.S. We all have real life issues, and anyone who sends you a note that's rude should be ignored. Those of us that understand, are More than willing to wait!

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"

Melissa Etheridge-Skin



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 4:44 pm 
That was simply a wonderful update and I am certainly willing to wait for another update. It was a really nice Christmas present to see a new Chapter posted. Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!



Shelly



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 8:43 pm 
Thank you for the update!



Wow! I think Willow blew a gasket :lol



Shelia has cancer? Oh, that's so not gonna be a good thing for teh girls when they find out.



So your gonna keep us in suspense about the name :) Cool.



-Will

"I think finding her soulmate would have made Tara a more confident and secure person" -Amber Benson



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 Post subject: Replies for Part 14a - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 4:50 am 
Barnabasvamp: Thank you for your supporting comments, and you'll find out how the girls react in the next update... I don't think it's what you're expecting!

Willowtarafan18: Merry Christmas to you, too! I'm glad you liked the update, I was a bit unsure of it. As a Boxing Day present, there WILL be an update posted today... you have the right to throw food (or panties, whichever you prefer) at me.

Willntlover: Wow, if you think Willow went nuts in this update, wait till the next one! I think i mentioned Sheila's cancer a few updates ago - didn't I? I'm sure I did. Oh well. Yes, I haven't made a final choice on the name, so for anyone that wants to vote, please do so.



Merry Christmas (or Boxing Day!) everyone!



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 5:08 am 
I am sorry to hear that Sheila has cancer.

I hope she will tell Willow and Tara everrything.



Stef :p



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 8:41 am 
Nice update. Please don't ever worry about taking time to post an update or feel you have to apologize for doing so. As good as the Pens board is (no disrespect meant here mods) it is still just a board and as such should never take precedence over your real life. So take care of life, write when you can or want to and know that there will be people patiently waiting to read your work. Anyone who posts or e-mails you otherwise is just simply wrong. Happy Holidays ~ Beth

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"Find peace in yourself and others will follow you" ~ Sappho



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14 - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 12:06 pm 
Dexis: I hope personally that Sheila's cancer will help her to understand Tara's pain of losing Delyth better, but I haven't written that update, and the Rosenbergs in particular seem to be very difficult and want to change my perspective of the story! However, they do seem to be agreed that Sheila needs to talk everything out, and Willow deserves to know everything.

BethanyB3: Thank you for your support. I wasn't actually upset by it, I just wanted to let any kitten who was considering emailing me with the same intent that I was not going to stand for it. You're right, as well. Things need to be kept in perspective, but writing updates is soooo much more enjoyable than revising for French!

Tara: There's just so much to work through... and can you just be kissing me now?



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 Post subject: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 12:10 pm 
Willow closed her eyes wearily as she listened to her soulmate and mother conversing. She was so very tired, and judging by the lack of action in her stomach, so was their daughter. This was just too much to deal with. You’ve spent twenty-two years of my life ignoring me, Mom, and now you throw this on me? she asked her mother silently.



Sheila turned to her. “I know, honey, and I’m sorry.”



Willow blinked. She seemed to be doing an awful lot of that today. “You heard me?” she asked, surprised, and then realised. Witchcraft. Since Tara had returned, they had spent a great deal of time practising Willow’s skills. Storing all the power up had reached disastrous consequences, and Tara had been the first to admit that they’d taken a short cut when she’d asked Willow to give up magick. She needed to be able to control herself, and the only way to do that was to re-learn everything, a task which they had both undertaken. The only difference was that Tara was learning all of the active spells, those that would be of great help during patrol, and Willow was concentrating on the passive side, which included communicating through one’s mind. She must have unconsciously directed her thoughts at her mother and Sheila, being a witch, had heard her.



“It’s not just now, you know,” Sheila told her. “Even when you were a child, you talked to me through your mind. That’s part of the reason why I forbade witchcraft. I was scared that you would learn to much, and end up carrying the dark mantle. Which,” she added sadly, “you did.”



Her daughter turned on her. “Would you please stop doing that?” she asked furiously. “I was thinking, and you were eavesdropping. It’s rude, and you would so yell at me if I did that to you. Besides, it’s annoying!”



Raising her eyebrows, Sheila backed away slightly, holding her hands up. “I’m sorry,” she said contritely. “I just know how many questions you must have, and you’re not asking any. All I was doing was trying to help.”



“It’s a little late for that!” Willow shouted, standing up. Tara backed away, aware that her lover needed to ask these questions, painful as it might be for her future mother-in-law. If she was truthful, though, Sheila’s state of mind didn’t really concern her. She understood Sheila’s motivations, and she admired the selfless way in which she had dealt with her own mothers death. Despite her grudging respect for the woman, Tara’s foremost thought was that she had hurt Willow. Sheila had hurt Willow, and she had taken her mother away from her, and they were unforgivable actions. Tara would forgive Sheila, though, and she was aware of that. That was just the way she was.



Willow continued ranting at her mother, moving closer to Tara as she sensed her lover’s inner turmoil. “You do not get to just walk in here and tell us this, Mom! How could you? How could you keep this from me for so long, and why, why did you have to bring this up now?”



“I brought it up because you needed to know, Willow,” Sheila explained, standing up so she was facing her daughter. “Your training as The Two Who Are Blessed will begin as soon as your daughter is born, and if you do not embrace your past, love who you are, then you will not survive it. Your heritage is something that makes you or breaks you, especially in your cases, and the Purity Goddesses cannot afford to be broken!”



It reminded Willow eerily of her years at high school, as her mother was telling her how important it was to do well, as she lectured her on the evils of drugs and alcohol, and even socialising. This, though, this was not something that would boost Sheila Rosenberg’s career standing, or their status in the neighbourhood. She was telling Willow this because she cared, and Willow hated her for it.



“Why did you have to start caring now?” she asked hoarsely, hating her voice for showing her weakness. “I’d just begun to accept that you and Dad were never going to take an interest in my life, that you were never going to care. Now, you had to come back into my life when I shut you out and turn it upside down again. I don’t want to know this, Mom, I don’t want to know any of it. All I want to do is live a normal life, with my wife and my daughter, and not have to spend the rest of my years fighting evil in case it gets Tara again. I want to be normal, Mom, and I would have thought that you of all people would understand that.”



Sheila opened her mouth to speak, but Tara interrupted quickly. “Don’t,” she said firmly, holding up a hand. “Just – just go. We need some time to deal with this. You’ve had twenty-two years. We’ll tell you when we’re ready.”



Closing her mouth quietly, Sheila nodded in agreement. “That’s fair,” she accepted.



Neither Tara nor Willow heard her as she left the house. Willow turned shakily to Tara, meaning to be supportive, wanting to ask if she minded her mother talking about Delyth. The words got caught in her throat, and she choked. “Oh honey,” Tara whispered as she moved forward, her arms slipping around the widening waist as she rested her forehead on her soulmate’s. “It’s okay. It really is.”



“Is it?” Willow gulped. “Tara, my mom and your mom were in love. My mom destroyed your childhood. We’re these jumbo powerful witches, and our daughter’s going to grow up feeling like a freak!” She started to cry in earnest, sobs shaking her shoulders as tiny squeaks were omitted from her mouth as she cried on Tara’s shoulder, her arms desperately rubbing her soulmate’s back for comfort. “And – and – and I can’t get up the stairs any more!” she sobbed out, knowing that she was being ridiculous, that she would spend the rest of her life living on one level for their daughter, and not caring. That didn't matter. Her mother had lied to her. She had never cared about her, she had hurt her, but Willow had always comforted herself with the fact that her parents had been honest. Now, it seemed, she had been denied that one small consolation.



Tara: There's just so much to work through... and can you just be kissing me now?



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 2:14 pm 
Darn, I feel for sheila. You made me care for her. Such an odd twist but I like it. And I hope they understand that sheila did it so they could fully love one another. Maybe Tara's mom will intervene.

If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 4:18 pm 
Well, I MUST agree with Miss Xita.



I can totally feel everyone's emotions about what's going on...but for the life of me, I never thought I would feel for Shelia...but somehow...I sort of do.



I can't wait to see what happens...and yes, when will Tara's mother make her appearance?



Great fic! Keep up the great work!



~NICK~

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In the words of Aretha Franklin-"I Will Survive!"--Season 7 that is... I just pretend it didn't happen and live my life on the Kitten Board!





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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 2:20 am 
Yep, I have to agree with Xita, too. Poor Sheila:cry



Stef :p



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 5:49 am 
Whats with all the 'poor Sheila' I read ? Everbody seems to be forgetting how bad a parent she was to Willow ?? I haven't heard the excuse for that yet.



Sheila left Delyth based on a dream she had, married Ira (did she ever love him btw?) and had Willow. Granted, Sheila did have a rather not-fun period in her life there but thats mostly caused by herself. Nothing was stopping her from being a nice parent and wife now was it ?



I wonder if Ira knows about this, his reaction might be interesting.



Anyway, Sheila has cancer and now wants to make up her past mistakes it seems. Doesn't nessecarely mean everybody will forgive her just because she's ill. Tara would, sure, but she forgives everyone she meets :D .



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and if you do not embrace your past, love who you are, then you will not survive it. Your heritage is something that makes you or breaks you






Geee, guess who made the 'past' and her heritage kinda hard to embrace ????



Whats all this crap about 'training' ? Who says Willow or Tara want to train anyway ?? As Willow already said, they just want live a normal life with their daughter.



Hmm, Sheila only started to be interested in Willow's life or care about it once she knew about the Purity prophecy thing coming about. Still doesn't mean she cares about Willow, she cares about "the Purity Goddesses" sure but thats something different.



Like getting lots of new friends when you've won the lottery, same effect. Nah, I'm not feeling sorry for Sheila much. I don't particulairy like her having cancer and all but that's about it.



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine



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 Post subject: I'm a replying fiend! Look at my outfit!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 5:52 am 
Xita: Yay! I made everyone like Sheila! I've never actually seen her in the show, so I didn't really have any views about her. I just felt that Willow needed to work through some issues before she could be happy, and that the root of her problems was with her parents. Don't worry, Ira did not have any kind of relationship with Tara's father... I think that would be going a bit too far! :eek As for Delyth, she has a few tricks up her sleeve yet!

SilverWingedNemesis: Thank you! :blush Don't worry, Delyth will come in very soon... are you all missing her? :) You're allowed to feel sorry for Sheila as well, but to me this cancer is a blessing in disguise - after all, that's how Delyth died, and they all need to know how much they've hurt each other.

Dexis: Oh no, don't cry! *Hands Stef a tissue* Here you are. Think happy thoughts. Think of Tara and Willow... and Tara and Willow.... bad Gem! Bad Gem! :jho :rollin



Thank you all for your comments, they're lovely!



Gem





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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 6:05 am 
Grimlock72: See, you get a personal reply all to yourself! Aren't you lucky? ;)

You seem to have the same kind of reaction that I did when I first wrote it... and then I wrote the next couple of parts which really do explain a lot. She was a bad parent to Willow... but to be honest, if you knew that your daughter was going to have the love that you gave up, wouldn't you be a bit bitter?



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Sheila left Delyth based on a dream she had, married Ira (did she ever love him btw?)






It wasn't just a dream, it was a prophecy. That's their gift, and Sheila has Willow's as well. As for Ira, I don't know. I don't think so. The kind of love that Delyth and Sheila had, and Willow and Tara have, isn't the kind that you can replace.



The cancer isn't what caused this, it was Tara's return and their awareness of their destinies. Delyth pushed Sheila into talking to them because they needed it, not because she did.



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Whats all this crap about 'training' ? Who says Willow or Tara want to train anyway ?? As Willow already said, they just want live a normal life with their daughter.






They do, but they don't have a choice. It's a gift, not a burden. Buffy doesn't want to be the Slayer, but she has to be. When their daughter's born, Willow and Tara will understand more, but for now, they just need to know that Sheila did everything she did for the best. Apart from Willow's childhood, but that was her pain over losing Delyth and knowing that Willow would love Tara because of it.



Wow, long reply! If you don't agree with the twists that the story is taking, that's fine by me. So long as you're enjoying it, I'm happy. :)



Gem



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 10:14 am 
Gem,

I must say great update! I'm loving the way you're putting this all together can't wait until there's more...no pressure of course :shy but I sure wouldn't mind more :pray



love

Shelly







Edited by: Warduke at: 12/27/02 8:31:34 am


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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 12:02 pm 
Oww.. I like personal replies, heh :)



I went and re-read several previous chapters, that helped a bit as far as liking Sheila is concerned.



I guess I really should wait for the next parts before commenting then. To impatient I guess, heh...



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but they don't have a choice. It's a gift, not a burden




They don't have a choice and still it's not a burden ? Sure sounds like a burden to me, they don't want it yet it's forced upon them. I'm fairly sure Buffy considered her being a Slayer a burden for most of season 1 at least :D . I would never call something I don't want thats forced upon me a gift.



Thats my main problem with prophecies overall. They tend to disrupt nice people's lives, I don't want Willow or Tara's life more disrupted then it already is really.



I can understand Sheila's problems, but that doesn't make her right. She definitly has/had the wrong mindset to either get married (only to get a child) or to get a child (only for a prophecy). I'm all with Willow on this one, why start caring now ? Poor Willow has enough to cope with as is :( Good thing Tara sorta kicked Sheila out so they can talk together a bit.



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If you don't agree with the twists that the story is taking




Eeeeks, wrong impression there! It's not that I don't agree with the twists this story takes (can't think of any such twists off-hand). I just want Willow and Tara to have a somewhat normal life. Prophecy usually means trouble so Sheila can keep her prophecy all to herself as far as I'm concerned (Giles would have a heart-attack over such a statement:) ).



I still can't picture Delyth and Sheila as a couple, so entirely opposites.... but thats my problem :) . I just hope Tara and Willow will have a nice and long somewhat normal life with their daughter.



I felt pretty much the same when Giles told Buffy about her being a Slayer back in season 1. I'm not a fan of dying for the Greater Good and such ;) .



Ok, this is a bit longer then needed to say I like this story (including twists), sorry 'bout that :-).



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14b - Families
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:31 pm 
:: peeks into room, sees post and shuffles in with her jumbo size tissue box:: :sneeze :yawn



So they were lovers..... and she was a witch too.....interesting... I'm guessing Sheila's powers aren't near as strong as Willow's then.





Thank you Gem.... now I'm going to hurry back to bed so you all don't have to spend Christmas break sick with the flu too.

*sniff*

-LC

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RealLiveTara is my RealLiveGirlfriend! *swoons*

"It doesn't have to be a really frenchish french, I just wanna feel your tongue."- my girlfriend last night.

"I don't wanna come out of the closet. All my clothes are in there!" -Me



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 Post subject: Re: Fic: Tears in Heaven
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 10:33 am 
More personal replies - how good am I? :)



willowtarafan18: Ahh thank you.... :stop There is an update up tonight. I'm not best pleased with it, but I think it answers some questions. : No need to be shy in this thread, now :)

Grimlock72: Was the 'ow' supposed to be ouch or oh? Got a bit confused there! :hmm I'm glad you're beginning to like Sheila a little - I've gotta admit, I don't like her much after writing this latest update, so you're not alone. As for the gift/burden thing, it could be a gift or a burden, but since when has Tara (not sure about Willow) considered her talent as a witch a burden? And how can their child be a burden? They've recieved their child due to their gift. Sheila's started caring now - not that she didn't before - because they really need her now. I guess I want Willow and Tara to have a normal, white-picket fence, life, but hey, it wouldn't be such a cliff-hangery fic if it was, would it? :lol Don't ever be sorry for writing replies, please. I love them.

LadyCallie: Poor LC! *Hands LC a jumbo jumbo size tissue box and some chocolate* Sheila's powers are actually pretty powerful... If she'd stayed, then she would have carried the dark mantle, and so her powers would have grown stronger. But yes, stay in bed and rest... we like our Ladies nice and healthy ;)



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 Post subject: Part 14c - Families
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 10:36 am 
Sheila pulled open the door, and her eyes widened in surprise.



“May I come in?” Xander asked. His tone was polite, but his eyes were angry. Sheila dreaded what was coming, but she supposed she should be grateful that he was alone, and not with that girl, Buffy. Realising that Xander was waiting for an answer, she nodded mutely and allowed him to enter.



“Would you like something to drink? Tea, perhaps?”



Xander shook his head, beginning to regret ever coming. Buffy had phoned him as soon as she’d returned from work, and he’d rushed straight over to talk to Sheila. It was time that someone was given a reason for her treatment of Willow, but was that someone supposed to be him? In all truth, it was probably Tara or Willow’s right. Only Willow needed Tara to be with her, and she needed him to do this for her.



“Biscuits?”



“Stop it,” he told her firmly, deciding that if he was going to do this, he was going to do it properly. “Just – just sit down.”



She was taken aback. This was not the immature boy that she’d known so long ago. This was a man, and one that she liked. Polite conversation was something that she endured, but not willingly. He had cut straight to the point, and that took guts, especially considering how scared he had been of her as a child.



“I need to talk to you,” Xander announced bluntly. “I don’t even know why I’m here and not Willow or Tara, but you need to give someone some answers. You don’t just march into someone’s home after ignoring them for twenty-two years and drop a bombshell like that. It’s not the neighbourly thing to do,” he added sarcastically, and hated himself for doing so. Sheila hadn’t always put Willow first, but, as Tara always said, he didn’t have the right to judge her. Even Willow didn’t have the right to judge her.



He sighed deeply. “I’m sorry. That wasn’t fair. I just need to know why. Willow needs to know why, but she’s not going to be coming here to get an answer. Just tell me why you treated her like you did; and I’ll tell her what she needs – what she deserves – to know.”



Sheila was silent for a long while, and when she raised a tired face to his, he was shocked at her expression. There was remorse in her eyes, and pain; but mostly there was that look of self-loathing. He should know. He’d seen it enough times in the mirror on his own face.



“What do you want?” she asked practically. “My entire life story? Everything after Willow was born? I’ll tell you all you need to know; but everything else stays private. I’m not the type of person that gives reasons for their actions, Xander.”



“Well, maybe you should be,” he informed her harshly. “I want to know why you treated Willow the way you did; and I want to know how you know all this about Willow and Tara. If you know Tara’s mother, fine. I don’t believe you, but Tara does.”



“She’s a wonderful woman,” Sheila agreed. “Willow’s a lucky girl.”



Xander’s expression tightened. “Funny, I would say that they’re both equally lucky.”



Sheila realised her faux pas, and her eyes widened. Wasn’t she supposed to believe that any woman or man dating her daughter was the luckiest in the world? Maybe she was; but that was hard when your daughter’s girlfriend was the replica of her mother, who you just happened to be in love with.



“I fell in love with Delyth Roberts the moment we met,” she informed Xander dreamily. “We were both seventeen, nearly eighteen, and almost as soon as we met we started casting spells together when she admitted to me that she was a witch. Long story made short, once we met we both started having the dreams – the gift that Willow and Tara now bear. I dreamt about things in the future; Delyth the past. They started to come true in my case, and Delyth began to understand and accept her past more because of her visions. We’d been together about three years - even started discussing having children - when I had the dream – the one about Willow and Tara.”



“Willow and Tara?” Xander blurted. “You had a dream about them?”



“Yes. If I had stayed with Delyth, we would have ended up bearing the mantle of the gift that Willow and Tara now bear. We would have had our children.”



“So that was it?” Xander asked bluntly. “You didn’t want the hassle of the gift and the duties of The Two Who Are Blessed, so you passed it on to Willow and Tara.”



“Are you kidding me?” Sheila asked incredulously. “Xander, the gift, the mantle – it’s such a beautiful blessing. They are pure, they are good, and they are true wiccans – that is why they carry the mantle. I didn’t want to give it up. I gave it up because, had I stayed, Willow and Tara would have been born as sisters. Does their love look as though they should be sisters, Xander? They would live in shame for the rest of their lives. I’m so sorry that I hurt Willow so badly – you can’t even imagine how sorry I am.”



“Yes, I can,” Xander told her, thinking of Anya. “I got a second chance, and so can you. I’m still noticing, though, that you haven’t answered my question. Why did you treat Willow the way you did?”



Looking ashamedly at her hands, Sheila admitted, “I was jealous. It’s a terrible thing for a mother to be jealous of her daughter, but I’d seen Tara in my dreams, and she was so much like Delyth… It hurt that Willow could be with Tara and I couldn’t be with Delyth. I’d given up the mantle so that she could have it, and I regretted it every day until they met and I dreamt about Willow’s happiness.”



“If you’d put the jealousy past you, you could have shared in it,” Xander retorted unforgivingly.



“I didn’t want to put it past me. So long as I was angry, I could think about Delyth and not leave Ira. If all I thought about were the good times, then I couldn’t have put up with the first man I loved, because my love for him was minuscule compared to my love for Delyth. I loved him, but I was still feeling Delyth’s hurt when I married him, and I suppose he was what you could call a substitute. Someone to marry so Willow could be born, and so I wouldn’t grow old alone. I didn’t want children with him, but I’d given up so much… Willow had to be born, or it all would have been for nothing.”



“Did you ever love her?” Willow’s best friend asked incredulously.



Sheila’s head shot up. “Of course I did!” she responded in shock. “I always loved Willow. She is my daughter, and I’m more proud of her than you can ever imagine. I just wasn’t ready to be a mother. If I’d waited, maybe I would have been a better parent. Maybe she would have been happier. Only it had to be then.”



Xander was shaking his head in disbelief as he stood up. “I was so jealous of Willow when I was younger. She never came to school with bruises, and she didn’t even know what it meant to be really yelled at until I got mad at her one time. Now I see I was the lucky one. At least my parents wanted me, and at least they paid attention to me, even if it was through punishment.”



“I came here for answers, Mrs Rosenberg, and I’ve certainly got them. As for making things up to Willow; making her feel loved by her own mother – you’re on your own.”



He slammed the door on his way out.





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 Post subject: Re: Part 14c - Families
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 7:43 pm 
Ow is supposed to be like 'Oh' (or more like the 'oooooww' in 'what does this button do' line from a certain cartoon, heh). It's a positive thing, rest assured.



As for the latest update; I'm actually liking Xander in this part, bit shocking that.



I disagree with his thought that "Even Willow didn't have the right to judge her.". She's Sheila's daughter and she has every right to judge her on actually being on a mother.



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They are pure, they are good, and they are true wiccans




Errrm....much as a adore Willow I wouldn't nessecarely call her (or 99.98% of mankind for that matter) "pure", Tara might fit that description. As for the "true wiccans" part, Willow never was one was she ? She's a witch using spells, sure... but she was never all that interested in Wiccan as a religion. Willow has science for that, or at least she had up till the end of season6.



They balance each other, which is good. Sheila forgot to explain why that gift is so nice to have btw.



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"Did you ever love her?" Willow's best friend asked incredulously.




Precisely what I was wondering. Apart from the reflex-answer "yes, of course", I'm not so sure. Sheila broke up with Delyth, married Ira (whom I feel sorry for) and had Willow more out of sense of duty then anything else. She wanted to make one version of her dreams come true.



I suppose it's possibly that she came to love Willow once she had her, but that was blocked by jealousy and Sheila being married while she wanted to be with Delyth. It's amazing Sheila and Ira never divorced :)



Trying to think of things Sheila has done just because she loves Willow, coming up empty though...We don't know how Sheila was to Willow during early childhood but judging on what Xander said (did I just write that? the horror:) ) I would assume it was the same neglect as ever. While she could have been a teacher/guide to Willow easily (same thing Giles choose to ignore, is that a Sunnydale type solution or something?).



Sheila should do well to think about Xander's final line "At least my parents wanted me" and how Willow will feel after hearing her story. Didn't like the rest of that line, getting attention in the form of a beating is bad and not to be called 'attention'.



Can't be fun to have dreams of the future, kinda forces you to do things or feel guilty about no doing anything. That goes for both Willow and Sheila.



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Edited by: Grimlock72 at: 12/29/02 5:45:57 pm


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 Post subject: Re: Part 14c - Families
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 2:25 am 
Well, that was really brave of Xander to go to Sheila for some answers. Finally as fic where he gets to do something helpful.

As for Sheila and Willow I think they really need to talk to each other....



Stef :p



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 Post subject: Re: Part 14c - Families
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 12:57 am 
Okay, first a big bold THANK YOU!!! for this chapter, because this lady was getting a little lost and didn't know it yet, so this chapter helped alot! Yey!



Second, good for the XandMan. I was surprised it see him, but I really liked what he had to say.



Thanks for the tissues, I'm finally feeling better.

-LC

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