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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:23 am 
Well, I think everyone's mentioned my favourites already. Goshdarnit.
Y'know that cold I had over the weekend? I gave it to my fiance. He can't complain, though, seeing as he willingly exposed himself to the germs...
The main reason I wanted to post in this thread was to reproduce the article about Buffy easter eggs (yes, they are available in the UK: don't miss out on the chance to combine Buffy and chocolate) that was in my paper today. Mucho amusing:
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Object of the week: Buffy Easter Egg
The oval that men do

According to my source on these matters, the 1930 edition of the Waverly Children's Dictionary, presents of eggs have long been made at Easter, as symbols of the resurrection. The name Easter is itself pagan - from Eostre, the goddess of spring and/or the dawn - but the Waverly Children's Encyclopaedia is confident in its assertion that the egg thing is a Christian thing. That's why it's perfectly appropriate to purchase and consume a festive Weakest Link Easter Egg. It's still really about Jesus coming back to life.

But Buffy? It seems like Buffy and her mates have a pretty pre-Christian worldview, and yet I don't see the goddess of spring figuring too heavily in the story lines either. I somehow get the feeling that Easter is a low-key affair round Buffy's place; no bonnets, no egg hunts. You can make a tenuous connection with the Weakest Link Easter Egg (blessed are the Weakest Links, as Jesus might have said, for they shall inherit some lovely chocolate), or the Hear'Say Easter Egg (pop group dies, is reborn a few days later), or even with the Pop Idol Easter Egg (the dawn of a new singing career, Will Young's slightly egg-shaped head) but Buffy and Easter just don't sit right.

Of course, if you're the manufacturer, the connection is glaringly obvious: it's Easter, and we've got the Buffy licensing deal. The folks at Bon Bon Buddies, who make this product, have clearly taken their popular Buffy "Milk Chocolates with Morphing Mouse Mat" and hastily repackaged it minus the milk chocolates and adding instead a chocolate egg in purple foil. The juxtaposition of egg and mouse mat is odd in itself, although the mouse mat bears a Buffy quotation, "If the apocalypse comes... beep me", which is sort of Eastery. We can safely assume, however, that the connection was not intentional.

Of course it might be said that Buffy, in her role as a vampire "Slayer", acts upon the undead much in the same way that a crucifix does, albeit with more kick-ass force. The crucifix is the central symbol of Easter, indeed of Christianity, and we might care to regard Buffy as a modern equivalent. I would even dare to describe Buffy as a sort of all-American version of the Messiah (the mouse mat also says "into each generation a Slayer is born") unless there is some kind of blasphemy legislation pending that I don't know about. All in all, that's as far as I'm prepared to stretch the point; the Waverly Children's Dictionary is fairly reticent on this sort of thing, so I can't even check my facts.



(Original article here.)

I'm so glad that we in the UK get a 4-day week (Good Friday and Easter Monday as public holidays), so only 2 days to go...
Of course, I would have to have a 4-day week when I'm snowed under with all the work which built up while I was on holiday AND one of my colleagues is off ill so I have to do her work AND I'm doing extra work because another colleague is on maternity leave AND I have to show a new employee the ropes. Gee, d'you think they're trying to make my head explode with the stress or something? *sigh*
Anyway, enough rambling. Have a happy Tuesday, kitties!

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I don't watch pornography. I just write it. - Joss
Tara: Nice baffroom.
Anya: (noddin') Like the bleedin' tile.
- 'The Yoko Factor' in Cockney
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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:25 pm 
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Originally posted by drlloyd11:
Revealing mine would be revealing a spoiler, so I can say my favorite yet aired is...

I'm right there with ya on that one. I thought about waiting on this topic, but damn it a month is just too far away anyway. Plus, I am so very very very very tired of the disregard shown to the FAQ and especially the ever fabulous question #19 (if you haven't read the FAQ rush right out and do it - you'll laugh, you'll cry, it will become a part of you - it's the feel good post of the year). Er, where was I, I think I got distracted. Oh. I thought it would just be fun to drum through any remaining thick skulls in the daily thread just how freaking gay Willow is by celebrating our favorite moments. I'm sneaky that way.

Oh and I also do so love the way Willow blatantly checks out and comments on the April robot. That was just too funny.

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:39 pm 
I like the "lesbian gay type lovers" line. Mainly because I heard Amber say it. Sigh. And her eyes...so blue...so direct... *shiver*

I have a cough. And I'm pretty crabby today. Stay away from my wrath - it's bubbling under.

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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:45 pm 
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Originally posted by tommo:
Stay away from my wrath - it's bubbling under.

You know, at least she gives us fair warning...

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Autumn

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:21 pm 
I gotta go with "So Willow's not driving stick any more," and "We're in love. We're lovers. We're lesbian gay-type lovers."


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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:33 pm 
Well, my favorites have been covered, but a couple of runners up I haven't seen would be Tara's:

"I'm not really big on the "timber."

Willow's:
"Am I going to have to fight to keep you? Cause I'm not large with the butch."

And I also got some sort of weird thrill when Glory (of all people) acknowledged their relationship when Willow came to kick her ass:

"oh look, it's the lover. that's so cute."



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:45 pm 
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Originally posted by AutumnT:
You know, at least she gives us fair warning...

It's the polite thing to do. Yes. Polite. I know, I know...there's a first time for everything...

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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:56 pm 
So I found a Hobbit name generator, and I decided to see what Willow and Tara would be called if they were Hobbits...
Tara - Bramblerose Bulge of Hobbiton
Willow - Pansy Proudneck of Longbottom
And some more characters:
Dawn - Iris Bramble of Willowbottom
Buffy - Orangeblossom Bramble of Willowbottom
Anya - Rosie-Posie Hardbottle
Riley - Samwise Hardbottle
Xander - Bulbo Grubb of Little Delving
Giles - Grigory Grubb of Little Delving
[Whoa, Xander and Giles are related in Hobbit-world, as are Anya and Riley...]
Wesley - Bingo Brockhouse of Loamsdown
Cordelia - Rosie-Posie Bumbleroot of Fair Downs
Gunn - Mungo Sandybanks of Frogmorton
Spike - Bungo Bulge of Great Smials
Hours of fun for all the family. [I came out as Tigerlily Frumblefoot of Scary, which I quite like.]
The site is here.

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I don't watch pornography. I just write it. - Joss
Tara: Nice baffroom.
Anya: (noddin') Like the bleedin' tile.
- 'The Yoko Factor' in Cockney

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:03 pm 
quote:
Originally posted by tommo:

I have a cough. And I'm pretty crabby today. Stay away from my wrath - it's bubbling under.


How is this different from any other day?

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A.K.A. Liz

Kisses and gay love anyone?
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When it comes to love, I just don't see straight.
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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:06 pm 
I'll answer that question with my sig.

CK

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"Do you wanna go out some time, for coffee, food, kisses and gay love?" Willow - Normal Again.



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:09 pm 
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Originally posted by darvangi:
that moment in Tough Love, though it is filled with tension and hurt feelings, was the surest sign to the Buffy viewing public that Willow's lesbianism was not a passing fancy or just some kind of experimentation. Bless Rebecca Kirshner's pointed little head for making it so clear to us!

And yet people STILL won't accept it.

"Lesbian gay type lovers" and "I'm a breast gal" are my favorites.

D

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They have Dial-A-Prayer for atheists now. You call up but nobody answers.
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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:18 pm 
Willow is gay gay gayyyy yay

and shes not only "kinda" gay, nooo, shes "gay now" and tomorrow and the day after and the day after that.. and *gay* gay with the gaylines

sorry, I got carried away, what was the question?



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:28 pm 
My fave:

Tara: "You have to be with the one you love."
Willow: "I am."

Says it all, don't you think?

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"O let my name be in the Book of Love.
If it be there, I care not of
That other book Above...
Strike it out! Or write it in anew.
But let it be in the Book of Love!"
--Omar Kyam



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:05 pm 
Great question, Mine would have to be the "Coffee, food, kisses and Gay love?" Which has already been mentioned A Lot. But, I just Loved it.

I also liked a quote by amber that was"... I think we're all just jealous of Willow and Tara." I know I'm Jealous of them.
Love to all you Rockin' Kittens.
Lisa

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This is our last embrace, Must I dream and Always see your face.~ Last Goodbye by Jeff Buckley



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:32 pm 
My favorites are all the little moments between Willow and Tara that make them so much more real than most TV couples- the way they look at one another, the way they casually hold hands and touch one another when together, the way they light up whenever they are around one another, the little things they know about one another, and my all-time favorite, the way Willow mouths "I love you," to Tara in "The Body" when Tara can't find her sweater. These little things affirm their status as a couple, and as two people very much in love. Anyone can see that these two are soulmates, just by watching how they act around one another.


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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:47 pm 
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Originally posted by willow420:
How is this different from any other day?

Heh heh. Well, today I have a cough to go with my unfettered wrath.

I have also eaten a dictionary.

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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:57 pm 
My favourite has already been done by warduke, I love the Tough love moment. Ah Rebecca so many great lines.

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:01 pm 
My favorite moment isn't really an acknowledgement of their gayness, per se, but I adore it because it is an acknowledgement of their love, and their affection, and general all around perfectness as a couple:

Willow:"Mmmm, pancakes could go in bellies." followed by a lovely smooch. Ahh, happiness....


Edited 'cause the board is still appending my post from two days ago to everything I write -- and since it's spoilery, I'm afraid someone will read it before I can edit it out. Mods? Any idea what's going on here? What I can do to stop it? Help!
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Kamil
Gunn: "I mean, who has time for love when you're out there doing it with the demons...and didn't that just come out sad and wrong."
"Heartthrob" Angel

[This message has been edited by Kamil (edited March 26, 2002).]



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:09 pm 
If it's in your sig then you need to change your profile.

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:25 pm 
Hmm way too many to pick just one so I broke em down into a 'Best of' list.
Ok so I'm still in Academy Awards Mode, sue me.

BEST WILLOW DECLARATION
WILLOW: We're in love. Lovers. We're lesbian gay-type lovers. – Checkpoint

BEST PICK UP LINE
WILLOW: Do you wanna go out some time, for coffee, food, kisses and gay love? - Normal Again.

BEST USE OF THE WORD 'LESBO'
WILLOW: You know, I'm really sorry I didn't establish my lesbo street cred before I got into this relationship. – Tough Love

BEST PROGRAMED EXCLAIMATION
BUFFYBOT: You're recently gay! – Intervention

BEST SEGUE
AMY: People getting frozen, Willow's dating girls, and did you hear about Tom and Nicole? – Smashed

BEST SUDDEN REALIZATION
XANDER: (shocked) Tara's your girlfriend? - The Yoko Factor

BEST IMAGERY
WILLOW: You had eggs, sunny side up. I remember because they were wiggling at me like little boobs. – Forever

BEST REASSURANCE
WILLOW: Hello, gay now! - Triangle

BEST STEP OUTTA THE CLOSET
WILLOW: It's complicated - because of Tara. - New Moon Rising

Lastly the honorary "BY GOD EVEN SHE GETS IT" award goes to:

DAWN: Buffy, it's okay. I do know about this stuff. - Once More, With Feeling.

[This message has been edited by Epicurus (edited March 26, 2002).]



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 4:36 pm 
A lot of the best moments have been taken. I think their defense before the Watchers that they were "lesbian gay type lovers" was my favorite.

One of my favorite moments that reveals the W/T relationship is when Tara absent mindedly plays with Willow's hair and Spike picks up on it. It's subtle, but really sweet.



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:18 pm 
Woo hoo for Willow who would be 100% gay if she took that purity test thing. If not more.

What a nice thread. Buffy is a funny show.

My girlfriend's uncle died this morning. Well, he's not a biological uncle, but he may as well have been. This is the second death she's had to deal with in two weeks. He had emphyzema. I'm not sure how to spell that. He couldn't stop smoking though. And now he's passed away.

It makes me tired.



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:27 pm 
This was already mentioned. And although I think it's more a declaration of love rather than a declaration of gayness, it still is my favorite.

You have to be with the one you love.
I am.

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I love you as certain dark things are to be loved, in secret, between the shadow and the soul... - Pablo Neruda



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:43 pm 
hm... this is gonna sound strange, but I really liked how when, in OMWF, Tara's "I'm cured! I want the boys!" was the most ridiculous thing and how she couldn't even keep a straight face (no pun intended )

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"living for thirty minutes at a time with a break in the middle for adverts" - Elvis Costello, Invisible Man



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:01 pm 
Being the most unoriginal person on the planet I have to go with with Faith's "So Willow's not driving stick anymore". She had such a way with words.

I remember seeing the episode with the buffybot and the "recently gay" line at home over summer when I was home for Xmas and my parents had no idea why I was laughing so hard.



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:57 pm 
I love them all! They are all my favorites, but if I had to pick one, it would "Hello Gay now" or wait maybe the line from Hells Bells "Its a good thing I figured out I was gay.." no, it is "lesbian gay type lovers." Of course Faith's "Willows not driving stick any more" is perfect. Oh I give up. Happy Tuesday!

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:05 pm 
Well, I'm gonna be redundant and say Faith's "Willow's not driving stick anymore", "Hello, Gay Now", and of course "Lesbian Gay-type Lover's."

Tara's "Not much for the timber" line is a classic.

And Willow's "You just can't handle that Tara's my girlfriend" in TYF. And at the wedding, Willow's comment about it being good she discovered she was gay, cause, "Hey, you, me and formal wear?". Loved it not just cause it restated yet again that Willow was gay, but also cause it was a nice touch of continuity.

There have been many, many examples. They're all good.



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:21 pm 
Willow(To Xander): I'll say this about the Y chromsome. It looks good in a tux.It's a good thing I realized I was gay because, hey, you, me, formal wear.
Xander: Your double X's don't look too bad either.


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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.

Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.

Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!

Willow: Hi, um Tara. How are you? I was wondering maybe you want to go out sometime for coffee? food? kisses and gay love?

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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:54 pm 
I loved the "lesbian gay-type lovers" scene... and also "It's a good thing I realized I was gay because, hey, you, me, formal wear."...

I'm delurking due to an awful afternoon. I've been lending my buffy vids - s4 onwards, to a good friend - he's about half way through season 5. We haven't really discussed the whole "Willow & Tara" thing before. But he bought it up today, and kinda irritated me...with his whole Oz was cool, they only made willow gay cos it's trendy, I don't much like Tara, comments. I was stunned and shocked and could barely do any work all afternoon. I'm hoping that he'll get to the end of the series and "see the light" - that Tara and Willow are so much more "right" than Oz ever could have been...either that or I'll have to beat it into him



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 Post subject: Sophomore Level Psychology Presents: Hello, Gay Now Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:35 pm 
hmmm...i think i have to categorize my favorites too...

Favorite Initiating Moment:

Willow: "Friends in danger, spells going awry, I'm nothing special"
Tara: "No, you are."

Favorite Oblivious Moment:

Dawn: "I told mom I want to learn how to do the things they do together."

Favorite Xander comment (because with me, Xander always gets his own category):

"So how long have you known your girlfriend's Tinkerbell?"

Favorite reminder (of course):

Hello, gay now!

braids

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"Is she your sister?"
"She's my everything..."

"Would that mean we have to snuggle?"

"There's nothing we can't face...except for bunnies."

"Oh! Oh, it's not a, a gay thing, you know, I mean, well...she's gay, but, but we don't ... gay. Not that there's anything..."



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