21. Can I talk about the actors' private lives?No. The private lives of the actors that work on this show should stay private. Any discussion will come only about anything they decide to make public. There will be no speculation about who Amber is dating, etc.
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Registered: Mar 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 02:56
Okay, I'm not exactly new but....good to read added rule #19! ------------------
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Cicca
Cool Monster Fighter
Posts: 152
Registered: Dec 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 03:09
Oh, this is good! I'd been thinking about asking about the Willow stuff in rule 19. Now I won't!
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Grace
Blessed Wannabe
Posts: 14
Registered: Mar 2002 | posted March 17, 2002 03:16
I just registered, and I wanted to say hi, and thanks for the really clear explanations of the rules. I just started checking out all of the Buffy sites, even though I have been a HUGE fan for years. I didn't know there were so many boards out there! I'm a little new to technology. I found the kitten board a few days ago, and I love it! I was so crushed when I heard some of the spoilers for the rest of the season, and it was nice to find out that I wasn't alone. I'm so glad I found this board.IP: Logged |
AutumnT
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Registered: Jul 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 03:32
quote:
Originally posted by xita:
19. Is Willow gay or bi?She's gay. Everyone, writers, actors and the show has said she is gay. Don't ask the question or post a thread about it.
It's amazing this even needs to be stated here, but give the number of times this has been cluelessly inflicted on us ad nauseum I am very very glad to see it in the FAQ. Now only if we could get newbies to actually read the FAQ my life would be complete. HELLO GAY NOW.
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maudmac
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Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 17, 2002 04:27
Man, I'll tell you what. I lurked here long and hard and when I felt motivated to actually start posting, I swear I read the FAQ ten times.I'm still sort of new, I know, but there are some other things that might be good for newbies to know, especially those who've only recently become fans of the show and/or don't have much posting/lurking experience on BTVS boards. One is an explanation of what "ME" means and a brief explanation of some of the other abbreviations they're likely to encounter here (JW, MN, SMG, AB, AH, NB, etc.) Also maybe a brief glossary? Defining the concepts of "shipper" and "canon" perhaps. Another thing that might help is a request to actually read the posts in a thread before posting. It kinda grates my cheese a little when someone says, "I didn't have time to read all the posts, so I hope I'm not repeating anything, but..." (And, wouldn't you know, 80% of the time, they are repeating but adding nothing new.) My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's. Having said all that, mods and monitors, y'all do a fantastic job with the Kitten. There is no place I'd rather be. Slightly OT: I'm not making this up! I DREAMED the Kitten board last night! You know, like how if you play a video game for waaaay too long, you still see it when you close your eyes? Yep. That was me. I wish I could remember what the posts I dreamed said. It was probably terribly important. IP: Logged |
AutumnT
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Registered: Jul 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 05:24
quote:
Originally posted by maudmac:
My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
Amen. In my opinion nothing is more rude than demanding we read what you have to say without bothering to do your homework or see what we have to say. Saying "I can't read all the posts in this thread but you should read my opinion" is amazingly arrogant. Anyone that loves Willow KNOWS that homework is important. Joining any online community is actually easy. I've done it many times. You lurk and learn about how the community works. You decide whether you fit in with the established community. If you do, you post via the rules after reading what the community has to say. You do not try to make it bend to your will. You do not decide you are right and the established community is wrong. You do not try to make the long established community ALL ABOUT YOU. You do not tell the established community that they are wrong and you, the unregistered voice of reason is right. If you have that need get the hell over yourself and move onto another board. Trust me there are plenty of places you will fit in. Not here. It's really easy to fit in if you look around and understand. Soon you too will be part of "the club" because you respect that you are coming into an established environment. I was a newbie at the kitten not so long ago. The kitten board is not anti-newbie at all. Quite the opposite. It just appreciates folks that take the time to bother to actually understand what it is about before telling people how they should think. They appreciate someone that thinks before they post. How is that wrong? So I rambled. I love this place. I wish everyone would give it the respect it deserves. It is so easy to do so. ------------------
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Registered: Jul 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 06:45
AutumnT, you took the thoughts right outta my head.I've read the FAQ before but it's always nice to refresh. IP: Logged |
RomanceJunky
Willowhand
Posts: 422
Registered: Mar 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 08:43
Loved seeing this posted this way, Esp. with the shear number of new kittens we seem to have gotten in the last week.RJ...welcome to all the new kitties! ------------------
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Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 17, 2002 08:56
quote:
Originally posted by maudmac:
My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those? ------------------
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 17, 2002 09:32
Supermus, I understand. But, I've seen people (commonly, depressingly commonly) repeat as if new-and-startling a thought expressed on the same page they posted, and not in that "oh we posted the same thing simultaniously great minds think alike ha ha" kind of way.I'll discuss with Xita later, but personally, I'd like everyone to read the first post/page of the thread they're posting in, which often contains important information about the real nature of the thread from the moderators or the thread originator, plus the past three pages or past couple of days (by posting date) of posting to get a feel for the flow of the conversation. I don't think it's so much that we expect everyone to read hundreds and hundreds of posts. It's just that so many people post who clearly either read the last page only (maybe), or even just the thread title and decided to dive right in. They then call attention to themselves by specifically saying "I have no idea what's been going on, and don't have the time/energy/interest to do so, but I'll say my piece anyway." Something like "I'm know I'm coming in late to this, apologies if it's redundant, but I was thinking 'blah'. Does anyone think that's meaningful, or am I missing something? Is this an old idea?" is less bothersome. (at least to me) Yeah, it amounts to the same thing, but at least it's not rubbing people's noses in the poster's seeming lack of interest in anything but thier own thoughts. Besides, you're probably going to be involved with this community for days or weeks or months. A few hours to catch up so you don't make a bad impression with the first thing you post is worth it, I think. There are only a few threads so hugely long anyway. If your thought is truly new and exciting it will still be so when you're really ready to contribute properly. No one gets extra points for speed, and a smart, relevant post on Friday makes you look twenty times better than something off the top of your head on Tuesday. Frankly, my bigger concern is folks posting with a basic sense of context. Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. If that's the focus, they may care about Willow and Tara slightly more than the other folks on Buffy....Nah, I'll post a long essay as to why some other character is more important than Willow or Tara, I posted the essay everywhere else in Buffy fandom, they'll understand.*boot* -or- Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. Willow and Tara are gay. The folks here might be gay too. Or they may like gay people....Nah, I'll post something homophobic anyway, because I'm talking about yucky gay men, not hot lesbian chicks, they'll understand.*boot* -or- Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. All of the pictures are of Willow and Tara hugging and kissing and smiling at each other. Maybe they prefer Willow and Tara involved with each other over than other characters on Buffy...Nah, I'll post about how Willow and Tara are awesome....but not quite as awesome as Willow/Oz or Willow/Buffy would be. They see it too, I can feel it.*boot* Ah. That felt good. -len [This message has been edited by Hugin (edited March 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Registered: Jan 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 09:36
quote:
Originally posted by supermus:
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
If you are going to ask a question that has been asked to death then yeah, you should. If you want people to read and reply to your posts, then give the same courtesy to others, besides it would save some space if certain questions did not need to be answered time after time.
Well, I have been away for almost 48 hours, I guess I better start catching up now. I think I will make #19 my sig.
*editing to add: Oh hee hee Len, we posted at almost the same time, great mind think alike, only I am more eloquent of course. 
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Registered: Oct 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 09:42
How about question 19b. Will Willow ever get back with Oz?
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 17, 2002 11:44
Oh some of these are great. I like to think of it as a work in progress and would not mind adding more questions. The ME one plus the suggestion to read before you post are 2 that I will add. Maybe I'll make a questions about Buffy one that can go below the board questions that can include the willow gay one, the ME one and the oz one.IP: Logged |
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Registered: May 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 11:59
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You do not try to make the long established community ALL ABOUT YOU.
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Registered: Jul 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 12:52
quote:
Originally posted by supermus:
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
Yes.
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wiccie
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Registered: Jan 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 13:52
Thank you, thank you, thank you! The Mods rock, this board rocks, and now the Clued-In Newbies will rock, too. IP: Logged |
AutumnT
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Registered: Jul 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 14:04
You may also want to include something about the search functionality as it helps avoid repetition. It's easy to see if something has been covered before by using it.------------------
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Kieli
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Registered: Mar 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 14:22
Actually, I beg to differ about the search functionality. I've tried to use it on various occasions and it has not often worked the way I had expected. I still had to go and search by hand because it missed a whole gap within the search method. *sigh* And I don't necessarily agree that everyone should have to read through forty pages of posts. No one really has that kind of time (unless they have nothing else better to do than sit on their computer for several hours a day to read nothing but posts). I try to get the abbreviated version of things or ask another fellow kitten to give me a summary if possible.I don't post very often but, when I do, I try to respect the fact that others may have already said what I might have missed. *shrug* It happens. Newbies will invariably make mistakes. I agree mostly with what Len said. I have found it rather interesting and overwhelming at the same time with the influx of new people. I'm glad Xita decided to repost the FAQs. Hopefully, it will make newbie transition from newcomer to Kitten family member more smooth. Toni ------------------
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Morphine
Doll's Eye Crystal
Posts: 61
Registered: Mar 2002 | posted March 17, 2002 14:25
Hi everyone... Newbie with a question...I have read the FAQ thouroughly (twice now!) but I have two short questions... 1. Is it wrong on the Kitten board to post the address of sites including "illegal" material, I know there's an All-Purpose Multimedia thread (extremly useful, by the way!), but I was referring to a site with shooting scripts and such... some boards say no, some say yes... 2. I know lots of people here for whom English is not the native tongue (I'm french-canadian). Would it be possible to make an International Kitten Thread or would that be too hard to moderate? Or am I just trying to shape the board to my taste? *winks at AutumnT* Thank you for your time... And this truly is a great place! Edited because I'm coming down with a severe case of the typos... ------------------
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Registered: Feb 2002 | posted March 17, 2002 14:29
Just wanted to say I found this post really helpful. I agree that people should read the posts because it's annoying when they're repetitive.Especially when I have a really bad hangover like today, it had something to do with glasses of clear liquid last night, what was it called again, was it vodka? And now I feel and a little after forcing down a Sunday lunch not to offend my mother, okay it was because I didn't want to hear the 'I told you so' thing ... just don't me right? Cause the room's and is it very obvious that I've just discovered how to use the smiles? Anyway, one thing I wanted to know was how do you change your signature? I've noticed that other users change it daily and call me stupid but I don't know how?!? Please help ** Vodka's not the SOURCE of me!!! ** Oh, I'm floating rose now - cool!!! [This message has been edited by Blue77 (edited March 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
xita
Ms. Moderator
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 17, 2002 14:33
I don't actually have a position on that. I think if it is your site post it, if not hold off on it. We don't want the sites shut down, I am not sure if that should be part of the FAQ or not.As far as the international kitty thing, it is tough to moderate as we don't speak all the languages and would never know if people are following the FAQ. But we did have a thread that celebrated international love for WT and it is here. Feel free to revive it. Which brings me to the last part, the search functionality. It is extremely useful. I just found that thread without much effort. Well, I remembered the title for one. I remembered it had something to do with around the world, so I did a search for topic titles only and put it "around the world." I came up with only one result and that was what I needed. So I think the more you use it, the better results you get. The more specific you can be the better results you'll get. When you posts threads, think of titles that will make it easier to find. Garfield is trying to fix old threads but for new threads we change titles to make it easier for us to find them later. You can also search by user and you can come up with results. I have only encountered one search problem where I couldn't find something that was there and that was on the Pens board. I am still trouble shooting that one. BLUE It's in the FAQ check your profile. And everyone else, I have updated the FAQ with your suggestions, everything except the "copywrited" sites stuff, I am still working on that one. [This message has been edited by xita (edited March 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 17, 2002 14:36
quote:
Originally posted by concrete:
....good to read added rule #19!
Very good! *Nod*
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Kieli
Big Pineapple
Posts: 814
Registered: Mar 2001 | posted March 17, 2002 15:04
My bad, Xita. I should've been more specific about my search problem. I had assumed that, since I was having major search problems on the Pens that it was the same here on the general board. Alas, I have come down with a case of Foot in Mouth Disease. My apologies for the misunderstanding.My personal opinion is that even old timers sometimes repeat posts. *shrug* It happens. They can be a little frustrating but I guess I'm more understanding about these things since I don't have a million hours to read through every single thread. My time is a little constricted because I am attempting to work full time and take my Masters. So short and sweet has become my mantra. ------------------
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 17, 2002 15:12
Well, we are all short on time, if you knew how little I slept Not reading the entire thread will get you in hot water quickly, you may get short or rude replies by people who do read it. Len made an excellent post. On how to post if you haven't read the whole thing (it is all in the wording of your post), or at least reading a few pages beforehand. Only a few threads are huge, and only the spoiler thread gets so much posting that is pretty hard to keep up with. IP: Logged |
1. What is The Kitten The Witches and The Bad Wardrobe?2. What is on topic?3. Can I make off topic (OT) posts?4. Can I post spoilers? 5. Are there any rules for discussing the new episodes?6. Do you have other posting rules?7. Can I post pictures?8. How do you guys post those smilies?9. Can I post in HTML?10. What is UBB code?11. What can I include in my signature?12. I am having general Novogate forum problems, what can I do?13. Do I have to register to post?14. How do I edit my post?15. How do I reply with quotes?quote:16. Hey, I like you folks, can we chat somewhere?17. Where can I find some sites about Amber Benson, Alyson Hannigan or WT?18. When does my level change and how can I change my avatar (the little picture under your name)?19. Is Willow gay or bi? or Will Willow date boys again?20. What is ME and other abbreviations?21. Can I talk about the actors' private lives?[This message has been edited by xita (edited March 28, 2002).]
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Registered: Mar 2001 posted March 17, 2002 02:56
Okay, I'm not exactly new but....good to read added rule #19! ------------------
It's not so much that I'm always right, it's just that I'm never wrong.....
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posted March 17, 2002 02:56 Okay, I'm not exactly new but....good to read added rule #19! ------------------
It's not so much that I'm always right, it's just that I'm never wrong.....
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Registered: Dec 2001 posted March 17, 2002 03:09
Oh, this is good! I'd been thinking about asking about the Willow stuff in rule 19. Now I won't!
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posted March 17, 2002 03:09 Oh, this is good! I'd been thinking about asking about the Willow stuff in rule 19. Now I won't!
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Registered: Mar 2002 posted March 17, 2002 03:16
I just registered, and I wanted to say hi, and thanks for the really clear explanations of the rules. I just started checking out all of the Buffy sites, even though I have been a HUGE fan for years. I didn't know there were so many boards out there! I'm a little new to technology. I found the kitten board a few days ago, and I love it! I was so crushed when I heard some of the spoilers for the rest of the season, and it was nice to find out that I wasn't alone. I'm so glad I found this board.IP: Logged
posted March 17, 2002 03:16 I just registered, and I wanted to say hi, and thanks for the really clear explanations of the rules. I just started checking out all of the Buffy sites, even though I have been a HUGE fan for years. I didn't know there were so many boards out there! I'm a little new to technology. I found the kitten board a few days ago, and I love it! I was so crushed when I heard some of the spoilers for the rest of the season, and it was nice to find out that I wasn't alone. I'm so glad I found this board.IP: LoggedAutumnTSassy Eggs
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Registered: Jul 2001 posted March 17, 2002 03:32
quote:
Originally posted by xita:
19. Is Willow gay or bi?She's gay. Everyone, writers, actors and the show has said she is gay. Don't ask the question or post a thread about it.
It's amazing this even needs to be stated here, but give the number of times this has been cluelessly inflicted on us ad nauseum I am very very glad to see it in the FAQ. Now only if we could get newbies to actually read the FAQ my life would be complete.
HELLO GAY NOW.
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posted March 17, 2002 03:32 quote:
Originally posted by xita:
19. Is Willow gay or bi?She's gay. Everyone, writers, actors and the show has said she is gay. Don't ask the question or post a thread about it.
It's amazing this even needs to be stated here, but give the number of times this has been cluelessly inflicted on us ad nauseum I am very very glad to see it in the FAQ. Now only if we could get newbies to actually read the FAQ my life would be complete.
HELLO GAY NOW.
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quote:19. Is Willow gay or bi?IP: LoggedmaudmacDoll's Eye Crystal
Posts: 76
Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 17, 2002 04:27
Man, I'll tell you what. I lurked here long and hard and when I felt motivated to actually start posting, I swear I read the FAQ ten times.I'm still sort of new, I know, but there are some other things that might be good for newbies to know, especially those who've only recently become fans of the show and/or don't have much posting/lurking experience on BTVS boards. One is an explanation of what "ME" means and a brief explanation of some of the other abbreviations they're likely to encounter here (JW, MN, SMG, AB, AH, NB, etc.) Also maybe a brief glossary? Defining the concepts of "shipper" and "canon" perhaps.
Another thing that might help is a request to actually read the posts in a thread before posting.
It kinda grates my cheese a little when someone says, "I didn't have time to read all the posts, so I hope I'm not repeating anything, but..." (And, wouldn't you know, 80% of the time, they are repeating but adding nothing new.) My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
Having said all that, mods and monitors, y'all do a fantastic job with the Kitten. There is no place I'd rather be.
Slightly OT: I'm not making this up! I DREAMED the Kitten board last night! You know, like how if you play a video game for waaaay too long, you still see it when you close your eyes? Yep. That was me. I wish I could remember what the posts I dreamed said. It was probably terribly important.
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posted March 17, 2002 04:27 Man, I'll tell you what. I lurked here long and hard and when I felt motivated to actually start posting, I swear I read the FAQ ten times.I'm still sort of new, I know, but there are some other things that might be good for newbies to know, especially those who've only recently become fans of the show and/or don't have much posting/lurking experience on BTVS boards. One is an explanation of what "ME" means and a brief explanation of some of the other abbreviations they're likely to encounter here (JW, MN, SMG, AB, AH, NB, etc.) Also maybe a brief glossary? Defining the concepts of "shipper" and "canon" perhaps.
Another thing that might help is a request to actually read the posts in a thread before posting.
It kinda grates my cheese a little when someone says, "I didn't have time to read all the posts, so I hope I'm not repeating anything, but..." (And, wouldn't you know, 80% of the time, they are repeating but adding nothing new.) My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
Having said all that, mods and monitors, y'all do a fantastic job with the Kitten. There is no place I'd rather be.
Slightly OT: I'm not making this up! I DREAMED the Kitten board last night! You know, like how if you play a video game for waaaay too long, you still see it when you close your eyes? Yep. That was me. I wish I could remember what the posts I dreamed said. It was probably terribly important.
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Registered: Jul 2001 posted March 17, 2002 05:24
quote:
Originally posted by maudmac:
My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
Amen. In my opinion nothing is more rude than demanding we read what you have to say without bothering to do your homework or see what we have to say. Saying "I can't read all the posts in this thread but you should read my opinion" is amazingly arrogant. Anyone that loves Willow KNOWS that homework is important.
Joining any online community is actually easy. I've done it many times. You lurk and learn about how the community works. You decide whether you fit in with the established community. If you do, you post via the rules after reading what the community has to say. You do not try to make it bend to your will. You do not decide you are right and the established community is wrong. You do not try to make the long established community ALL ABOUT YOU. You do not tell the established community that they are wrong and you, the unregistered voice of reason is right. If you have that need get the hell over yourself and move onto another board. Trust me there are plenty of places you will fit in. Not here.
It's really easy to fit in if you look around and understand. Soon you too will be part of "the club" because you respect that you are coming into an established environment.
I was a newbie at the kitten not so long ago. The kitten board is not anti-newbie at all. Quite the opposite. It just appreciates folks that take the time to bother to actually understand what it is about before telling people how they should think. They appreciate someone that thinks before they post. How is that wrong?
So I rambled. I love this place. I wish everyone would give it the respect it deserves. It is so easy to do so.
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posted March 17, 2002 05:24 quote:
Originally posted by maudmac:
My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
Amen. In my opinion nothing is more rude than demanding we read what you have to say without bothering to do your homework or see what we have to say. Saying "I can't read all the posts in this thread but you should read my opinion" is amazingly arrogant. Anyone that loves Willow KNOWS that homework is important.
Joining any online community is actually easy. I've done it many times. You lurk and learn about how the community works. You decide whether you fit in with the established community. If you do, you post via the rules after reading what the community has to say. You do not try to make it bend to your will. You do not decide you are right and the established community is wrong. You do not try to make the long established community ALL ABOUT YOU. You do not tell the established community that they are wrong and you, the unregistered voice of reason is right. If you have that need get the hell over yourself and move onto another board. Trust me there are plenty of places you will fit in. Not here.
It's really easy to fit in if you look around and understand. Soon you too will be part of "the club" because you respect that you are coming into an established environment.
I was a newbie at the kitten not so long ago. The kitten board is not anti-newbie at all. Quite the opposite. It just appreciates folks that take the time to bother to actually understand what it is about before telling people how they should think. They appreciate someone that thinks before they post. How is that wrong?
So I rambled. I love this place. I wish everyone would give it the respect it deserves. It is so easy to do so.
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AutumnT, you took the thoughts right outta my head.I've read the FAQ before but it's always nice to refresh.
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posted March 17, 2002 06:45 AutumnT, you took the thoughts right outta my head.I've read the FAQ before but it's always nice to refresh.
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Loved seeing this posted this way, Esp. with the shear number of new kittens we seem to have gotten in the last week.RJ...welcome to all the new kitties!
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posted March 17, 2002 08:43 Loved seeing this posted this way, Esp. with the shear number of new kittens we seem to have gotten in the last week.RJ...welcome to all the new kitties!
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 17, 2002 08:56
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Originally posted by maudmac:
My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
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posted March 17, 2002 08:56 quote:
Originally posted by maudmac:
My view is, if you've got time to post your own thoughts (which you'll no doubt expect everyone to read), you've got time to read everyone else's.
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
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Fantastico posted March 17, 2002 09:32
Supermus, I understand. But, I've seen people (commonly, depressingly commonly) repeat as if new-and-startling a thought expressed on the same page they posted, and not in that "oh we posted the same thing simultaniously great minds think alike ha ha" kind of way.I'll discuss with Xita later, but personally, I'd like everyone to read the first post/page of the thread they're posting in, which often contains important information about the real nature of the thread from the moderators or the thread originator, plus the past three pages or past couple of days (by posting date) of posting to get a feel for the flow of the conversation.
I don't think it's so much that we expect everyone to read hundreds and hundreds of posts. It's just that so many people post who clearly either read the last page only (maybe), or even just the thread title and decided to dive right in. They then call attention to themselves by specifically saying "I have no idea what's been going on, and don't have the time/energy/interest to do so, but I'll say my piece anyway."
Something like "I'm know I'm coming in late to this, apologies if it's redundant, but I was thinking 'blah'. Does anyone think that's meaningful, or am I missing something? Is this an old idea?" is less bothersome. (at least to me)
Yeah, it amounts to the same thing, but at least it's not rubbing people's noses in the poster's seeming lack of interest in anything but thier own thoughts.
Besides, you're probably going to be involved with this community for days or weeks or months. A few hours to catch up so you don't make a bad impression with the first thing you post is worth it, I think. There are only a few threads so hugely long anyway. If your thought is truly new and exciting it will still be so when you're really ready to contribute properly. No one gets extra points for speed, and a smart, relevant post on Friday makes you look twenty times better than something off the top of your head on Tuesday.
Frankly, my bigger concern is folks posting with a basic sense of context.
Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. If that's the focus, they may care about Willow and Tara slightly more than the other folks on Buffy....Nah, I'll post a long essay as to why some other character is more important than Willow or Tara, I posted the essay everywhere else in Buffy fandom, they'll understand.*boot*
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Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. Willow and Tara are gay. The folks here might be gay too. Or they may like gay people....Nah, I'll post something homophobic anyway, because I'm talking about yucky gay men, not hot lesbian chicks, they'll understand.*boot*
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Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. All of the pictures are of Willow and Tara hugging and kissing and smiling at each other. Maybe they prefer Willow and Tara involved with each other over than other characters on Buffy...Nah, I'll post about how Willow and Tara are awesome....but not quite as awesome as Willow/Oz or Willow/Buffy would be. They see it too, I can feel it.*boot*
Ah. That felt good.
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posted March 17, 2002 09:32 Supermus, I understand. But, I've seen people (commonly, depressingly commonly) repeat as if new-and-startling a thought expressed on the same page they posted, and not in that "oh we posted the same thing simultaniously great minds think alike ha ha" kind of way.I'll discuss with Xita later, but personally, I'd like everyone to read the first post/page of the thread they're posting in, which often contains important information about the real nature of the thread from the moderators or the thread originator, plus the past three pages or past couple of days (by posting date) of posting to get a feel for the flow of the conversation.
I don't think it's so much that we expect everyone to read hundreds and hundreds of posts. It's just that so many people post who clearly either read the last page only (maybe), or even just the thread title and decided to dive right in. They then call attention to themselves by specifically saying "I have no idea what's been going on, and don't have the time/energy/interest to do so, but I'll say my piece anyway."
Something like "I'm know I'm coming in late to this, apologies if it's redundant, but I was thinking 'blah'. Does anyone think that's meaningful, or am I missing something? Is this an old idea?" is less bothersome. (at least to me)
Yeah, it amounts to the same thing, but at least it's not rubbing people's noses in the poster's seeming lack of interest in anything but thier own thoughts.
Besides, you're probably going to be involved with this community for days or weeks or months. A few hours to catch up so you don't make a bad impression with the first thing you post is worth it, I think. There are only a few threads so hugely long anyway. If your thought is truly new and exciting it will still be so when you're really ready to contribute properly. No one gets extra points for speed, and a smart, relevant post on Friday makes you look twenty times better than something off the top of your head on Tuesday.
Frankly, my bigger concern is folks posting with a basic sense of context.
Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. If that's the focus, they may care about Willow and Tara slightly more than the other folks on Buffy....Nah, I'll post a long essay as to why some other character is more important than Willow or Tara, I posted the essay everywhere else in Buffy fandom, they'll understand.*boot*
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Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. Willow and Tara are gay. The folks here might be gay too. Or they may like gay people....Nah, I'll post something homophobic anyway, because I'm talking about yucky gay men, not hot lesbian chicks, they'll understand.*boot*
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Hm. This is a Willow and Tara board. All of the pictures are of Willow and Tara hugging and kissing and smiling at each other. Maybe they prefer Willow and Tara involved with each other over than other characters on Buffy...Nah, I'll post about how Willow and Tara are awesome....but not quite as awesome as Willow/Oz or Willow/Buffy would be. They see it too, I can feel it.*boot*
Ah. That felt good.
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Registered: Jan 2001 posted March 17, 2002 09:36
quote:
Originally posted by supermus:
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
If you are going to ask a question that has been asked to death then yeah, you should. If you want people to read and reply to your posts, then give the same courtesy to others, besides it would save some space if certain questions did not need to be answered time after time.
Well, I have been away for almost 48 hours, I guess I better start catching up now.
I think I will make #19 my sig.
*editing to add: Oh hee hee Len, we posted at almost the same time, great mind think alike, only I am more eloquent of course.
I think I will make you my sig instead.
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posted March 17, 2002 09:36 quote:
Originally posted by supermus:
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
If you are going to ask a question that has been asked to death then yeah, you should. If you want people to read and reply to your posts, then give the same courtesy to others, besides it would save some space if certain questions did not need to be answered time after time.
Well, I have been away for almost 48 hours, I guess I better start catching up now.
I think I will make #19 my sig.
*editing to add: Oh hee hee Len, we posted at almost the same time, great mind think alike, only I am more eloquent of course.
I think I will make you my sig instead.
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Registered: Oct 2001 posted March 17, 2002 09:42
How about question 19b. Will Willow ever get back with Oz?
Answer: See Question 19.Warlock.
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Answer: See Question 19.Warlock.
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Fantastico posted March 17, 2002 11:44
Oh some of these are great. I like to think of it as a work in progress and would not mind adding more questions. The ME one plus the suggestion to read before you post are 2 that I will add. Maybe I'll make a questions about Buffy one that can go below the board questions that can include the willow gay one, the ME one and the oz one.IP: Logged
posted March 17, 2002 11:44 Oh some of these are great. I like to think of it as a work in progress and would not mind adding more questions. The ME one plus the suggestion to read before you post are 2 that I will add. Maybe I'll make a questions about Buffy one that can go below the board questions that can include the willow gay one, the ME one and the oz one.IP: LoggedGODisTiggerSassy Eggs
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Originally posted by AutumnT:
You do not try to make the long established community ALL ABOUT YOU.
You don't?
Oops!
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posted March 17, 2002 11:59 quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT:
You do not try to make the long established community ALL ABOUT YOU.
You don't?
Oops!
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Registered: Jul 2001 posted March 17, 2002 12:52
quote:
Originally posted by supermus:
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
Yes.
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posted March 17, 2002 12:52 quote:
Originally posted by supermus:
In most cases you do, but some threads are 30/40 pages, which takes a few hours to read. And the spoiler thread, non-spoiler thread, and the episodes thread all have past pages, should people read those?
Yes.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! The Mods rock, this board rocks, and now the Clued-In Newbies will rock, too. IP: Logged
posted March 17, 2002 13:52 Thank you, thank you, thank you! The Mods rock, this board rocks, and now the Clued-In Newbies will rock, too. IP: LoggedAutumnTSassy Eggs
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You may also want to include something about the search functionality as it helps avoid repetition. It's easy to see if something has been covered before by using it.------------------
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Actually, I beg to differ about the search functionality. I've tried to use it on various occasions and it has not often worked the way I had expected. I still had to go and search by hand because it missed a whole gap within the search method. *sigh* And I don't necessarily agree that everyone should have to read through forty pages of posts. No one really has that kind of time (unless they have nothing else better to do than sit on their computer for several hours a day to read nothing but posts). I try to get the abbreviated version of things or ask another fellow kitten to give me a summary if possible.I don't post very often but, when I do, I try to respect the fact that others may have already said what I might have missed. *shrug* It happens. Newbies will invariably make mistakes. I agree mostly with what Len said. I have found it rather interesting and overwhelming at the same time with the influx of new people. I'm glad Xita decided to repost the FAQs. Hopefully, it will make newbie transition from newcomer to Kitten family member more smooth.
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posted March 17, 2002 14:22 Actually, I beg to differ about the search functionality. I've tried to use it on various occasions and it has not often worked the way I had expected. I still had to go and search by hand because it missed a whole gap within the search method. *sigh* And I don't necessarily agree that everyone should have to read through forty pages of posts. No one really has that kind of time (unless they have nothing else better to do than sit on their computer for several hours a day to read nothing but posts). I try to get the abbreviated version of things or ask another fellow kitten to give me a summary if possible.I don't post very often but, when I do, I try to respect the fact that others may have already said what I might have missed. *shrug* It happens. Newbies will invariably make mistakes. I agree mostly with what Len said. I have found it rather interesting and overwhelming at the same time with the influx of new people. I'm glad Xita decided to repost the FAQs. Hopefully, it will make newbie transition from newcomer to Kitten family member more smooth.
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Registered: Mar 2002 posted March 17, 2002 14:25
Hi everyone... Newbie with a question...I have read the FAQ thouroughly (twice now!) but I have two short questions...
1. Is it wrong on the Kitten board to post the address of sites including "illegal" material, I know there's an All-Purpose Multimedia thread (extremly useful, by the way!), but I was referring to a site with shooting scripts and such... some boards say no, some say yes...
2. I know lots of people here for whom English is not the native tongue (I'm french-canadian). Would it be possible to make an International Kitten Thread or would that be too hard to moderate? Or am I just trying to shape the board to my taste? *winks at AutumnT*
Thank you for your time... And this truly is a great place!
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posted March 17, 2002 14:25 Hi everyone... Newbie with a question...I have read the FAQ thouroughly (twice now!) but I have two short questions...
1. Is it wrong on the Kitten board to post the address of sites including "illegal" material, I know there's an All-Purpose Multimedia thread (extremly useful, by the way!), but I was referring to a site with shooting scripts and such... some boards say no, some say yes...
2. I know lots of people here for whom English is not the native tongue (I'm french-canadian). Would it be possible to make an International Kitten Thread or would that be too hard to moderate? Or am I just trying to shape the board to my taste? *winks at AutumnT*
Thank you for your time... And this truly is a great place!
Edited because I'm coming down with a severe case of the typos...
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Registered: Feb 2002 posted March 17, 2002 14:29
Just wanted to say I found this post really helpful. I agree that people should read the posts because it's annoying when they're repetitive.Especially when I have a really bad hangover like today, it had something to do with glasses of clear liquid last night, what was it called again, was it vodka?
And now I feel and a little after forcing down a Sunday lunch not to offend my mother, okay it was because I didn't want to hear the 'I told you so' thing ... just don't me right? Cause the room's and is it very obvious that I've just discovered how to use the smiles?
Anyway, one thing I wanted to know was how do you change your signature? I've noticed that other users change it daily and call me stupid but I don't know how?!? Please help
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posted March 17, 2002 14:29 Just wanted to say I found this post really helpful. I agree that people should read the posts because it's annoying when they're repetitive.Especially when I have a really bad hangover like today, it had something to do with glasses of clear liquid last night, what was it called again, was it vodka?
And now I feel and a little after forcing down a Sunday lunch not to offend my mother, okay it was because I didn't want to hear the 'I told you so' thing ... just don't me right? Cause the room's and is it very obvious that I've just discovered how to use the smiles?
Anyway, one thing I wanted to know was how do you change your signature? I've noticed that other users change it daily and call me stupid but I don't know how?!? Please help
** Vodka's not the SOURCE of me!!! **
Oh, I'm floating rose now - cool!!!
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Fantastico posted March 17, 2002 14:33
I don't actually have a position on that. I think if it is your site post it, if not hold off on it. We don't want the sites shut down, I am not sure if that should be part of the FAQ or not.As far as the international kitty thing, it is tough to moderate as we don't speak all the languages and would never know if people are following the FAQ.
But we did have a thread that celebrated international love for WT and it is here. Feel free to revive it.
Which brings me to the last part, the search functionality. It is extremely useful. I just found that thread without much effort. Well, I remembered the title for one. I remembered it had something to do with around the world, so I did a search for topic titles only and put it "around the world." I came up with only one result and that was what I needed. So I think the more you use it, the better results you get. The more specific you can be the better results you'll get.
When you posts threads, think of titles that will make it easier to find. Garfield is trying to fix old threads but for new threads we change titles to make it easier for us to find them later. You can also search by user and you can come up with results. I have only encountered one search problem where I couldn't find something that was there and that was on the Pens board. I am still trouble shooting that one.
BLUE It's in the FAQ check your profile.
And everyone else, I have updated the FAQ with your suggestions, everything except the "copywrited" sites stuff, I am still working on that one.
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posted March 17, 2002 14:33 I don't actually have a position on that. I think if it is your site post it, if not hold off on it. We don't want the sites shut down, I am not sure if that should be part of the FAQ or not.As far as the international kitty thing, it is tough to moderate as we don't speak all the languages and would never know if people are following the FAQ.
But we did have a thread that celebrated international love for WT and it is here. Feel free to revive it.
Which brings me to the last part, the search functionality. It is extremely useful. I just found that thread without much effort. Well, I remembered the title for one. I remembered it had something to do with around the world, so I did a search for topic titles only and put it "around the world." I came up with only one result and that was what I needed. So I think the more you use it, the better results you get. The more specific you can be the better results you'll get.
When you posts threads, think of titles that will make it easier to find. Garfield is trying to fix old threads but for new threads we change titles to make it easier for us to find them later. You can also search by user and you can come up with results. I have only encountered one search problem where I couldn't find something that was there and that was on the Pens board. I am still trouble shooting that one.
BLUE It's in the FAQ check your profile.
And everyone else, I have updated the FAQ with your suggestions, everything except the "copywrited" sites stuff, I am still working on that one.
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Originally posted by concrete:
....good to read added rule #19!
Very good! *Nod*
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posted March 17, 2002 14:36 quote:
Originally posted by concrete:
....good to read added rule #19!
Very good! *Nod*
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Registered: Mar 2001 posted March 17, 2002 15:04
My bad, Xita. I should've been more specific about my search problem. I had assumed that, since I was having major search problems on the Pens that it was the same here on the general board. Alas, I have come down with a case of Foot in Mouth Disease. My apologies for the misunderstanding.My personal opinion is that even old timers sometimes repeat posts. *shrug* It happens. They can be a little frustrating but I guess I'm more understanding about these things since I don't have a million hours to read through every single thread. My time is a little constricted because I am attempting to work full time and take my Masters. So short and sweet has become my mantra.
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posted March 17, 2002 15:04 My bad, Xita. I should've been more specific about my search problem. I had assumed that, since I was having major search problems on the Pens that it was the same here on the general board. Alas, I have come down with a case of Foot in Mouth Disease. My apologies for the misunderstanding.My personal opinion is that even old timers sometimes repeat posts. *shrug* It happens. They can be a little frustrating but I guess I'm more understanding about these things since I don't have a million hours to read through every single thread. My time is a little constricted because I am attempting to work full time and take my Masters. So short and sweet has become my mantra.
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Fantastico posted March 17, 2002 15:12
Well, we are all short on time, if you knew how little I slept Not reading the entire thread will get you in hot water quickly, you may get short or rude replies by people who do read it. Len made an excellent post. On how to post if you haven't read the whole thing (it is all in the wording of your post), or at least reading a few pages beforehand. Only a few threads are huge, and only the spoiler thread gets so much posting that is pretty hard to keep up with.
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posted March 17, 2002 15:12 Well, we are all short on time, if you knew how little I slept Not reading the entire thread will get you in hot water quickly, you may get short or rude replies by people who do read it. Len made an excellent post. On how to post if you haven't read the whole thing (it is all in the wording of your post), or at least reading a few pages beforehand. Only a few threads are huge, and only the spoiler thread gets so much posting that is pretty hard to keep up with.
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