Spoilers will abound, so if you're spoiler free...run away...now
by Warduke » Sun Mar 10, 2002 9:52 pm
Spoilers will abound, so if you're spoiler free...run away...now
by tommo » Sun Mar 10, 2002 11:49 pm
Oh wait...
*runs back again*
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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
by Sela » Sun Mar 10, 2002 11:53 pm
--Sela
by shellybean » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:38 am
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by Sela » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:39 am
--Sela
by La » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:41 am
But if you want to stay spoiler free, now's the best time to do so, IMO. Stay out of the General spoiler thread!
~La
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Taree: ah'm, yo' know...
Willer: Whut in tarnation?
Taree: Yourn...
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by Dr.G » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:43 am
*editing to add: I must type faster, so many spoilerhos who type faster than I.
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by Kittie17 » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:45 am
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Originally posted by Warduke:
Spoilers will abound, so if you're spoiler free...run away...now
I'm always preparing myself to run away... for some reason i never do it
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Todo lo que necesitamos es sentido comun y eso no puede ser enseñado
by shellybean » Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:08 am
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by Sela » Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:20 am
I think we just need to be strong. Whatever happens, this community is magnificent. Let's hold on to that.
Con mucho amor y carino,
Sela
by wiccie » Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:22 am
Nothing is for certain until the episode airs, and even then it may not be the *whole story*.
I read spoilers for entertainment, like why I read horoscopes; it's fun to see what (usually small) percentage *did* come true and what was totally off base.
So, enter at your own risk into The General Spoiler Thread, and if you do please keep the above advice in mind.
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by shellybean » Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:48 am
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by Reyna » Mon Mar 11, 2002 2:54 am
no worries.
let leoff do this one. he's much better skilled. this episode was dead weird. especially considering the end and the implications it brings about, if i understood it correctly.
you all have a good night.
yes there is some taraness in this. umm nothing big.
Reyna
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by xita » Mon Mar 11, 2002 3:01 am
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by TaraMaclay » Mon Mar 11, 2002 3:13 am
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Guardian of Vampire Tara
Keeper of Tara's 'Lil Pile 'O Crackers'
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Look, I realize that every slayer comes with a expiration mark stamped on the package.. But I want mine to be a long time from now.. Like a Cheeto.
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by Dr.G » Mon Mar 11, 2002 3:32 am
And hardly any Tara? Does that mean no W/T? *grumble*
by Ange » Mon Mar 11, 2002 4:57 am
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Buffy C Band Spoilers for March 11, 2002
This episode is kinda hard to write spoilers for, being that it jumps around between realities a lot. I'm going to do this a little differently, let you know what happens, not necessarily in order.
The beginning of the ep starts out with Buffy looking for the nerd herd. She actually finds their house and is snooping around when the nerds sick a demon on her. She fights with the demon, she's not getting the better of the battle, a needle like thing comes out of the demon's arm and it stabs Buffy with it in the arm. The instant that happens, Buffy is transported to an alternate reality where she is in a mental institution. The thing the demon stabbed her with in the other reality is a syringe that a doctor has just stuck in her arm. She is fighting violently and needs to be restrained. As whatever drug she has been injected with takes effect, Buffy goes back to the Sunnydale world to find the demon gone.
The Buffy reality parts-
In the reality where Buffy is in a mental institution her mother is still alive and is still married to her father. Buffy has been institutionalized for six years. She has been catatonic for over a year without a lucid break. Her parents and her doctor are trying to coax her out of Sunnydale. They are trying to convince her that Sunnydale is a reality she created in her own head to cope. They try to convince her to let go of the structure that is keeping her in Sunnydale, namely her friends and Dawn.
As Buffy switches between the institution reality and the Sunnydale reality she starts to believe that the institution reality is the real world.
Back in the Sunnydale world, Xander returns, looking for Anya. He professes that he's still in love with her, that his life is empty without her and he made the biggest mistake of his life leaving her at the altar. Anya is not there. Xander went home to find her suitcase and some of her clothes missing, and the magic shop closed. Buffy and Willow explain that Anya was pretty destroyed by what had happened and that she had left a couple of days ago. They thought that Xander wanted to break up with Anya, which he does not, he says he just freaked out. So Xander still wants Anya, we'll see if she feels the same way.
Buffy is out demon hunting, she comes across Spike. They have a nasty little exchange, Spike asks Buffy if she cried at the wedding. Buffy comes back and they sit down and have a very civil conversation where Buffy explains about Xander leaving Anya at the altar. Spike says he didn't see that coming either. Just as they're talking, Willow and Xander show up. Spike tries to pick a fight with Xander over Anya, Buffy slips back into the institution world. Xander and Spike start to brawl. The fight breaks up when Willow and Xander end up helping Buffy home.
Willow discovers what the demon is and that she needs the demon to make an antidote. Xander and Spike team up and go track the demon. They catch it with some trouble, and chain it in Buffy's basement. Willow makes the antidote, without magic, so it takes a long time and there are two explosions along the way.
So slowly as people start to fight, Buffy realizes how depressing Sunnydale is and starts to desire the institution world. Several times in the Sunnydale world, both from Spike and Xander the other Scoobies should be getting a big time hint about Buffy and Spike sleeping together. Willow hands Buffy the antidote and tells her to drink it all. Just then Spike and Buffy have a little spat. Spike tells her if she doesn't tell her friends about them, he will. That sends Buffy over the edge. She decides the other reality is better and pours the antidote in the trash. Returns to the institution reality and tells her mother and father and the doctors that she wants to get healthy.
So Buffy goes all nuts trying to get rid of her Sunnydale world. She ties up Willow, Xander and Dawn in the basement and sets the demon lose on them. She hides under the stairs as her friends try to fight off the demon. In the institution world, her mother tries to hold her to that reality, encouraging her to destroy her Sunnydale world. Just then, Tara happens by. She hears the commotion and comes to the basement. She starts using magic to free the three tied up Scoobies and to fight the demon. Buffy reaches out from under the stairs and trips Tara. Tara falls down the stairs. In the institution world, Joyce is telling Buffy to believe in herself. Buffy is having a very hard time watching her friends try to fight off the demon. Eventually she can't take it anymore. She bids good bye to the institution world and comes back into the Sunnydale world, killing the demon. She apologizes to the Scoobies and tells Willow to make her more antidote. In the institution world, Buffy has gone back to catatonic. The doctor tells her parents that she's gone.
Extra details-
Willow sees Tara get kissed by another girl, storms off jealous.
Buffy repeats what Joyce has told her to say in the institution world, that she does not have a sister. In the Sunnydale world, Dawn hears this, and is heartbroken.
In the institution world, the doctor says that Buffy came out of her catatonic state for a while last summer but was pulled back in by her friends. I believe this alludes to Buffy's death, and where she really went when she died.
When Buffy is talking about how unhappy she is in Sunnydale she asks Dawn why then "Am I sleeping with a vampire that I hate?" Strong words, I wonder if she means them.
The show actually ends with a shot of the institution reality, of her parents mourning that she's slipped back out of their world. There is no real explanation to whether it was real or not.
In Summary-
There you have it. I had no idea how to get this all down while I was watching it. A lot of jumping, could have taken ten pages to describe if it had been done in order. I thought I wasn't going to like this episode but I did really enjoy it. What I wish there would have been in this ep was some Anya. I hate it when they make us wait to see what's going to happen in that situation. I have to admit, I was sorta happy when Spike was picking on Xander. Call it Anya sympathy, I thought Xander deserved it a bit. A little payback.
TARA IS KISSED BY SOMEONE ELSE!!!!!
What is that?
Ange.
quote:by wiltar » Mon Mar 11, 2002 5:01 am
Patricia
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"What are they looking at?"
"The hotness of you, doofus!"
by Walker » Mon Mar 11, 2002 5:50 am
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"She's really pretty, great eye's. A bit like a rabbit that's been mistaken for a hand-puppet." My friend's lovely description of her new girlfriend.
by Ange » Mon Mar 11, 2002 5:50 am
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"Normal Again"
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Normal Again
Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Xander questions the whereabouts of the nerd herd, Willow and Dawn talk about Tara at the Bronze, Dawn's loneliness talk to Buffy, Buffy breaking up with Spike, Anya preps for Wedding, Xander walks away from wedding.Buffy walks down a nighttime Sunnydale street, carrying a list of addresses that are of houses for rent, and she starts up the walk to investigate one.
Jonathan sleeps at a computer monitor as the barrel of a gun is slowly pointed at his head, then a moment later, BLAM! He is hit with a big blast of water! Warren and Andrew chuckle as Jonathan wipes his head dry and complains about being tired and cooped up in the basement for days. He wonders why they can't go upstairs, especially since they rented the whole house, but Andrew says they've got to lay low... literally! Just then, Warren notices Buffy on one of the computer monitors, lurking around the outside of their house! Warren tells Jonathan not to panic as Andrew grabs a demon summoning horn and gets help from a little "friend."
Lurking outside, Buffy is surprised by a waxy, bald-headed demon who instantly attacks! The two fight outside and Buffy starts to get the better of the demon, but then a small spike comes out of the demon's arm and he jams it into Buffy's arm...
Buffy struggles with the two orderlies as they inject the tranquilizer into her arm. Outside of her hospital room, mental patients and doctors roam the hall.
Opening Credits: nothing new.
Buffy awakes, leaning against a car in the alley where she was fighting the demon. She looks around confused as she feels her sore arm.
The next day at Sunnydale U, Willow waits in a hallway, practicing some lines to ask Tara out on a date. Willow sees Tara come out of class and smiles wide, starting to approach her friend, but then sees Tara approached by another woman, who greets Tara with a light peck on the cheek. Surprised and hurt, Willow turns and starts walking away quickly, but Tara notices Willow's hasty exit and is bothered herself.
Standing over a deep fryer at the Doublemeat Palace, Buffy is a bit out of it. She's called by a co-worker at the front counter...
"Buffy, come on; It's time for your drugs" says the hospital orderly to Buffy, who stands confused in a hospital gown.
"I said, if I didn't know any better, I'd swear you were on drugs." Says the co-worker to a distracted Buffy, who turns and empties some badly overdone fries from the fryer.
The next day, Buffy walks into the kitchen to find Willow on-line. Willow's looking for any sign of Xander's whereabouts, even in e-mail, but there's nothing. Buffy then asks Willow why she wasn't seeing Tara, and Willow sadly describes the earlier scene, knowing that it might just be nothing, but it still bothers her.
The doorbell rings and Xander is greeted with hugs from Buffy and Willow. He's looking for Anya and wonders if she's there, saying that she took a suitcase with some clothes and that there's a closed sign on the Magic Box door. He talks to his friends, saying that he knows he made a mistake and that he's still confused by the wedding and his family and her demon friends, but he misses her badly and feels lost without her. Buffy and Willow are sympathetic to his "screw up."
Spike walks through his graveyard with a bag of groceries as he comes upon a patrolling Buffy. He asks how the wedding went, if there was sobbing and flying rice. The two sit as Buffy informs him that it didn't take place because Xander left, which Spike is surprised at. Xander and Willow appear and Buffy tries to pass off their conversation as an interrogation, trying to ignore their friendship in front of Willow and Xander. A little hurt and pissed, Spike starts to walk away but Xander starts letting the insults fly and Spike turns back to let some insults fly back. Willow tries to calm the two down, but all three don't notice Buffy start to get dizzy and fall to her knees in back of them...
Crouched in a corner of her hospital room, a Doctor kneels by Buffy who is confused and tired. He asks her where she his. She says Sunnydale. The Doctor says no, that none of that is real, she's in a mental institution and has been for the past 6 years.
Spike is sent to the ground by a Xander punch as Buffy continues to act strange.
Buffy starts to panic in the corner but the Doctor calms her down, showing her who just arrived in the room: her mother and father! Joyce kneels by her daughter and says "Welcome home, sweetie."
Commercial Break: Nicoderm CQ, now in Cherry, Lime, and Grape flavors!
Buffy's mom and dad smile at her as she looks at them, confused about the images in her mind.
Willow and Xander help Buffy up as Spike says they should bring her back to his crypt, but Xander coldly says no to Spike and they start to slowly walk her home. Spike tells them to put ice on the back of her neck as he picks up his groceries and walks away, hurt and concerned.
At the Summers living room, Buffy calmly re-tells the events of the demon attack the prior night to Xander, Willow, and Dawn, and then continues to tell of the images of her in the mental ward. In the images, Sunnydale and the entire slaying lifestyle did not exist according to the Doctor. Buffy then looks at Dawn and says that Mom was there, with Dad, and they were still together. Buffy's talk is slow and lucid, as if not knowing what to believe. Willow then jumps up and takes charge, telling Xander to check out all the local demon haunts and Dawn to help her with research...
In the Doctor's office, Joyce and Hank talk to the Doctor with Buffy sitting nearby, curled up in a chair. Her parents are hopeful that some sort of new breakthrough will take place, but the Doctor tells them what they already know, that for the past 6 years Buffy has been in a schizophrenic dream world in which she the central figure, a type of superhero with friends who also have super powers. In the world they battle mythical monsters, but with each victory, the world gets more diverse and detailed. Buffy becomes agitated for a moment, saying that Warren and the others did this to her, then she calls Dawns name. The Doctor explains that Buffy created Dawn to re-establish a closer connection to try to calm things down, but her creation, along with the continuing stories of her friends and family became too complicated and were no longer comforting to her. Her battles used to be grand, against monsters and gods, but now they are much less, with the villains being reduced to three pathetic little men.
Warren and Andrew walk into their basement and Jonathan, overtired and paranoid, wants to know where they were. Warren tries to calm Jonathan down, telling him they were just going out for supplies, but Jonathan is sick of being trapped in the basement and he's jealous that they got to go out. He starts on his way out, saying he wants to get supplies too, but Warren grabs him and coaxes him back, purposely keeping him downstairs and seemingly in the dark about something, which adds to Jonathan's paranoia. Andrew looks on silently as Warren smooth talks Jonathan into staying put, saying it's dangerous for him to go out alone and if one gets caught, they all get caught.
Buffy stares at a picture of her and her and Joyce and Hank. Willow walks up and says they have some luck and shows her a picture and description of the very demon Buffy fought earlier. Buffy looks as if she could care less and says that she's very lost. Willow talks to her as Buffy says she's been detached even before the demon attack.
Buffy then goes on to tell Willow something shocking: that when she was younger and first encountered vampires, she told her parents and they freaked, thinking there was something wrong with her and sent her to a clinic for a couple of weeks. Eventually she stopped talking about it and they let her go. In time her parents simply forgot. Tearfully, Buffy questions Willow, wondering if she's still in that clinic and has been for the past 6 years. Willow assures her that she's not, that it's a bad memory from the past mixed with the demon poison in her system, and that the demon holds the antidote to it's own poison, which Xander is currently tracking.
Xander and Spike walk through a forest, looking for the demon. Spike goes on to think it funny that they're all part of Buffy's delusions, including the chip in his head, and making him soft on her, and making him her sex slave, which Xander questions and Spike quickly shakes off. The two start to get into an argument about Xander's wedding fiasco when the wax demon jumps out of nowhere and attacks! After a fierce struggle, with Xander shooting two tranquilizer darts into the demon, it's subdued.
Dawn brings Buffy some tea in her bedroom and Dawn notices that Buffy has a fever. Buffy starts to ramble a bit, saying that they have to try harder, with the grades and the stealing. Dawn looks a bit hurt as Buffy then asks her if Willow's been doing her chores? Dawn chalks it up to the fever, but Buffy grabs Dawn and says they have to deal with them...
"You don't have a sister, Buffy." Joyce tries to get through to her daughter, saying that all of that other life is just a dream and that they'll all soon go home and get things back to normal.
Dawn stares at her sister and starts to cry. "I'm not even there, am I?" she says. Buffy has been talking aloud and Dawn isn't in her 'perfect' dream world. Hurt, Dawn leaves to go and do chores.
Leading the chained demon into the basement of the Summers house, Xander and Spike wrestle it to a standstill (after Xander is kicked down twice). Willow comes up and jabs the demon in the arm, forcing the large spike to shoot out of it's hand, which Willow breaks off and puts in a jar. Willow then orders Xander to go to the Magic Box and get some supplies so she can get to work on a "non-magical" antidote. Spike stays behind to keep an eye on the demon.
Later, Willow approaches Buffy with a warm mug full of the thick antidote. Buffy's really out of it. Spike walks in and Willow tells him to make sure she drinks all the antidote "you need to leave me alone. You're not a part of my life" says a dazed Buffy. Spike then gets upset and goes off on Buffy, saying that she's not drawn to the dark, but instead she's addicted to misery. She's got to stop worrying about everything and just live, then maybe things will be better. He then lays down an ultimatum: either Buffy tells the others about their former romance or he will, then he storms out. Buffy grips the mug and is ready to drink, but then gets lost in thought, thinks for a moment, and pours the antidote into the garbage next to her.
"I don't wanna go back there. I wanna be healthy again. What do I have to do?" Buffy looks up at the Doctor, making the decision that she doesn't like the 'other world' and wants to live in what she thinks is the real one.
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Buffy begs her parents and the Doctor for help, saying she wants to go home. The Doctor tells her the only way to help herself is to try and get rid of the things in her mind that support her other world, namely her friends. Her friends are 'tricks' that are keeping her from getting healthy.
Willow walks into a still dazed Buffy in the hallway. Willow offers to make Buffy some food to pep her up and the two walk off to the kitchen.
Xander knocks at the front door and calls out for the others, but no response is heard. He walks through the house and comes upon Buffy in the kitchen, standing silently by the sink. He is happy to see her and asks her if she got the antidote ok. She is silent as Xander rambles about some delusions Spike was mumbling earlier when Buffy unexpectedly grabs a pan and hits Xander in the face with it! The two wrestle before Buffy pulls him down into the basement. Xander sees a bound and gagged Willow laying on the basement floor before he goes unconscious. The wax demon struggles in it's chains, bound to a post nearby.
Buffy comes up from the basement and walks slowly, calmly, up to Dawn's room, where Dawn is packing to go to stay with a friend. Dawn starts to act hurt and defensive, but soon sees Buffy is not herself. Buffy says she has to go downstairs with the others, it's the only way she can get healthy. Buffy grabs for Dawn, but Dawn escapes and runs into another room, pleading with Buffy to try and be calm and think. Dawn tries to explain that this world is real and that the institution world isn't, but Buffy stalks Dawn from room to room, saying that it's ridiculous for her to believe she lives in a world populated with monsters, where she sleeps with a vampire that she hates. Dawn tries to escape, but Buffy grabs her and wrestles her to the ground.
Down in the basement, Dawn pleads with Buffy, who gags her into silence next to bound and gagged Willow and a tied to a post Xander.
The Doctor says that Buffy is doing well, and she must continue to get rid of those elements that are keeping her in the dream world. Buffy is shaking as her parents look on, hopeful.
Buffy starts to unchain the wax looking demon as Xander comes to and sees the demon come for him.
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Buffy slowly backs away under the stairwell as the demon comes at Xander. Xander stands, hands bound around the post, and kicks at the Demon, begging Buffy to help him.
Tara enters the front door and calls "Hello? Anybody home?"
Shaken and confused, Buffy watches as the demon breaks Xander's bonds, grabs him and throws him across the basement.
Joyce says that it's ok and tries to calm Buffy down in the hospital room. Buffy struggles a bit before running to a corner and slowly sinks down.
Xander calls for Buffy's help again as the demon pummels him. Tara then opens the basement door and starts downstairs. She sees the carnage and casts a spell, shouting "exemente!" which releases the bonds of Willow and Dawn, then casts another spell which sends a shelf full of paint cans and other things flying into the demon. Tara continues downstairs but Buffy, still hiding underneath the stares, grabs Tara's foot from in-between two steps and Tara tumbles down...
Joyce looks at a panting, confused Buffy, reassuring her that she can do this, that she's a survivor.
The demon struggles with Xander and throws him aside, does the same with Dawn, then Willow attacks it with a baseball bat as Buffy watches dazed from under the stairs.
"Willow" cries Buffy as she sits in her hospital room with her mom there by her side. Joyce continues to reassure her, telling her to fight on. "Fight it. You're too good to get them. You can beat this thing. Be strong, baby. I know you're afraid. I know the world seems like a hard place sometimes, but you've got people who love you. Your dad and I have all the faith in the world in you. We'll always be with you. You've got a world of strength in your heart, I know you do, you just have to find it again. Believe in yourself."
Slowly Buffy calms down during Joyce's speech. She looks up calmly at her mom and says "you're right. Thank you. Goodbye." Joyce looks on as Buffy retreats into herself.
From under the stairs, Buffy slowly becomes more aware of her surroundings and charges out, attacking the demon. A brief struggle ensues before Buffy punches the demon in the chest. Literally INSIDE it's chest. She pulls out her hand which is covered in goo as the demon falls, dead. Buffy turns towards the others, who all stand in surprise. "I'm sorry" she says to them all, still not quite with it. Willow assure her that everything is ok, and that they'll get her some more antidote soon.
The Doctor flashes a penlight into Buffy's eyes. "I'm sorry, there's no reaction at all. I'm afraid we've lost her." Joyce sobs as Hank holds her. The camera pulls back from a catatonic Buffy sitting crouched in a corner of the hospital room.
Grr... Arrg...
by SeanGaffney » Mon Mar 11, 2002 6:33 am
Wait, no, it's not. 
Oh well. We get to see Tara kick some butt. Who can say no to that? Not me. But no Anya... --SG
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At least we get Tara and jealous Willow.
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this sounds like a really weird episode. i can't tell if it's going to be really good, or really bad. but hey, we have a bit of tara!
i get the feeling that we haven't really heard everything about the "tara falling down the stairs" scene. i mean what, so she just falls and that's the last we see of her? willow doesn't come to her aid or something like that? i need some closure here. leoff, and anyone else who's seen the wildfeed, do we see any more of tara after she falls?
sigh. how i wish this weren't the last new buffy ep for six weeks...
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At least we get Tara and jealous Willow.
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posted March 11, 2002 09:41 The spoilers seem to defy explanation on this episode, sounds like a strange episode to watch.At least we get Tara and jealous Willow.
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"No, please. I mean, tell me if I said something wrong otherwise I know I'll say it again. Probably often and in public.
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posted March 11, 2002 10:15 Hunh.-len
IP: LoggedaprilMs. Moderator this sounds like a really weird episode. i can't tell if it's going to be really good, or really bad. but hey, we have a bit of tara!
i get the feeling that we haven't really heard everything about the "tara falling down the stairs" scene. i mean what, so she just falls and that's the last we see of her? willow doesn't come to her aid or something like that? i need some closure here. leoff, and anyone else who's seen the wildfeed, do we see any more of tara after she falls?
sigh. how i wish this weren't the last new buffy ep for six weeks...
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posted March 11, 2002 10:41 okay, the board is *really* slow for me this morning.this sounds like a really weird episode. i can't tell if it's going to be really good, or really bad. but hey, we have a bit of tara!
i get the feeling that we haven't really heard everything about the "tara falling down the stairs" scene. i mean what, so she just falls and that's the last we see of her? willow doesn't come to her aid or something like that? i need some closure here. leoff, and anyone else who's seen the wildfeed, do we see any more of tara after she falls?
sigh. how i wish this weren't the last new buffy ep for six weeks...
by Rally » Mon Mar 11, 2002 7:41 am
At least we get Tara and jealous Willow.
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"No, please. I mean, tell me if I said something wrong otherwise I know I'll say it again. Probably often and in public.
by april » Mon Mar 11, 2002 8:41 am
this sounds like a really weird episode. i can't tell if it's going to be really good, or really bad. but hey, we have a bit of tara!
i get the feeling that we haven't really heard everything about the "tara falling down the stairs" scene. i mean what, so she just falls and that's the last we see of her? willow doesn't come to her aid or something like that? i need some closure here. leoff, and anyone else who's seen the wildfeed, do we see any more of tara after she falls?
sigh. how i wish this weren't the last new buffy ep for six weeks...
by Epicurus » Mon Mar 11, 2002 9:06 am
Why would they end it like this?
Shouldn't the alternate place that Buffy was in end if she fought though the poison's effect to become strong enough to realize that she was not really in the hospital?
*wonders if that question made any sense*
What point is trying to be made by showing Buffy in the hospital at the end when that Buffy isn't suppose to really exist?
The doctor also said they lost her, did she go back to being catatonic or dead just looking catatonic?
There’s so much runnin' round in my head right now.
I think that was a great way to end an episode that starts 'new episode limbo'.
I can not wait until tomorrow to see this. I hope someone posts a ripped version of the episode tonight or tomorrow morning.
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by The Rose » Mon Mar 11, 2002 11:21 am
Looks like the W/T scene is going to be hard to watch. I wonder what a jealous Willow is going to be like.
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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
by Dr.G » Mon Mar 11, 2002 11:50 am
There have been a few epsiodes on DS9 in which the false prophets mess with Captain Sisko's mind, making him think his world is a fantasy and that he is living in an insane asylum. Quite disturbing that was as well, this ep reminds me of that.
Like Epicurus, I am puzzled by the ending, but that may be done to mess with our minds as much as Buffy's, just to keep us guessing. Buffy was still not completely out of it, or back into it or whatever according to Leoff when she attacked the demon. No telling what this means yet.
I love the Willow/Tara moments of this episode. Willow sounds very take charge and in control, and her jealousy/insecurity caused by seeing Tara get kissed on the cheek is very sweet. Poor Willow.
Ah and Tara kicks ass again. I can never get enough of that.
by Ange » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:04 pm
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Buffy 6.17 FAQ
What’s it called?
“Normal Again.”Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is credited to longtime Joss Whedon aide Diego Gutierrez.Does Anya go all vengeance demon?
Anya is wholly absent this week. We are told that the Magic Box is closed and no one has seen her since the non-wedding. Xander, for his part, still seems to love her.What does TV Guide say?
“A demon doses Buffy with a powerful chemical that causes her to hallucinate, convincing the slayer that her parents are alive and Dawn never existed.”Uh, did Hank Summers meet an untimely demise at some point?
The TV Guide listing makes it sound that way, but as far as we know, Buffy’s daddy is living and breathing and taking up valuable space in the Buffyverse.Does the demon invade Buffy?
In a sense. He injects the chemical by poking her. (If you know what I mean.)What is TV Guide not telling us?
Buffy comes to believe that her real life is actually the delusion of an institutionalized and delusional non-slayer named Buffy Summers. When Buffy decides she likes the non-supernatural, Spike-free universe in which her mom still lives, she feverishly decides to kill those things that tether her to her “fantasy life” as a slayer: the other scoobies.The big news?
Buffy didn’t get canned at Doublemeat when she went AWOL to help Nick and Nora Fury two episodes ago.The less-big news?
“Normal Again” is another sub-par episode.The Nerds of Doom sit it out again?
No. The nerds send the delusion-demon after Buffy when they discover her closing in on their new secret lair.Any sign of Fantastico?
Nope.Any Buffy-Spike sex?
Nope.Anyone learn of the Buffy-Spike sex?
“You either tell your friends about us,” says Spike this week, “or I will.”What’s the what with Will and Tara?
Status quo. Will freaks out when she spots Tara cheek-kissing a girlfriend, but things get better after Tara turns up to save the day.Does Will go back on the pipe?
Nope.What’s great?
The final shot suggests that Buffy’s life of the past six years may be the delusions of a mental patient after all.What’s not so great?
The concept is way, way, way too similar to the “Deep Space Nine” episode in which Ben Sisko is a 20th century mental patient who imagines himself a starship captain on a space station. This would be perfectly forgivable, of course, if the episode supplied any of the series’ trademark pithy drama or witty dialogue. It really feels like Team Whedon is treading water until those big events – the ones we’ve been talking about since last summer – come to pass in the season’s final episodes.Herc’s rating for “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 6.17?
**1/2
The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:***** better than we deserve
**** better than most motion pictures
*** actually worth your valuable time
** as horrible as most stuff on TV
* makes you quietly pray for bulletins
Ange.
quote:by tommo » Mon Mar 11, 2002 12:39 pm
I'm grasping here to even understand this concept. There's got to be a loophole in this ep that relates to the others. Especially with the ending. Bah. I'm confused now.
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