General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 8

[Enigmatic]

I'm confused as hell right now! Cause what Willowlicious said made alot of sence, heck I'm telling myself these things all the time. But, but, but, I can't remember that Michele ever gave us some wrong information, so like I said...confused, angry, sad, all these emotions I'm feeling them right now...

God, I wish to hit somebody now!!

[Ange]

I'm at the board called " A candle for Tara" and there's this beautiful poem, that some of us should know, but on a btvs way.

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stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
tell Dawn her stand-in mom will not be coming home,
silence the pianos and with muffled drum
bring out the coffin, let the Scoobies come.
let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
scribbling on the sky the message 'she is dead',
let Buffy and Spike pause in making their forbidden love,
let Xander and Anya take off their boxing gloves.
she was Willow's North, her South, her East and West,
her working week and her Sunday rest,
Her noon, her midnight, her talk, her song;
we thought their love would last for ever: we were wrong.
the stars are not wanted now: put out every one;
pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood.
for nothing now can ever come to any good.
with apologies to W H Auden

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I just want to say, that it's just a spoiler for me. Nothing is done. And i like to think that all that, has a relation, with the first slayer and all. And that, of course, there's this spoiler, but there's also some others promises that they had done to us.

But whatever happens, in the future, i'd like to say, that i'm very proud of being a memeber of this board. I love you all. And we really found a lot more than a comunity. We found friends. And i'm very grateful for that.

Ange.
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[Enigmatic]

I agree Ange...

[Hush]

I don't believe this is gonna happen and if it does there will be some twist and at the end Tara and Will will be happy and alive, 'cause killing Tara doesn't make any sense. I am in the Denial Bus but I am worried, we have hear a lot of spoilers like this one but I don't remember so many people freaking and all this scares me, AngelX has been wrong before right? so please remember Tara is still alive.

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[Coma]

Damm just logged on and saw alllll that. Ok this is bad, real bad. Lets hope its not true, at this stage it does look like it is. But fingers crossed....

[Epicurus]

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Originally posted by amberisadamngoddess:
have you heard the new theory that is flying around?...
In a similar way to the end of the south park movie, it has been revealed by inside sources that Anya sacrifices herself using her powers to bring back those who have died. Anya faces the wrath of the demons and is killed. Everyone else survives because anyhting leading up to the final episode is reversed i.e. episodes 20 and 21...

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That sounds exactly like what spoilerslayer1
posted on the Bronze. I think he/she is talking outta their ass. Sorry, rather they are specualting and passsing it off as spoilers.quote:

[Dr.G]

AngelX has been wrong before, and she never claimed to be a 100% accurate, so who knows. I am still catching up on all the posts. As so many feel this just does not make any sense. It is too much. I know Joss Whedon loves Shakespeare. This scenario makes Hamlet look like a fluffy happy little comedy.

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[Perfume V]

The more I think about it, the more I think it *can't* be true... all season, Marti, Joss and Amber have been laughing off rumours that Amber's skimpy contract means she's going to die. Now granted, I don't expect them to say "She's not in every episode? Oh, yeah. That's because she dies in episode whatever", but it doesn't seem to be ME's style.

They've fed us disinformation in the past, sure, but they've never gone on websites and national magazines and told outright, bare-faced lies. I think...

[Tiggrscorpio]

After a sleepless night, I am still so completely depressed. I can't help but worry about how Dawn will deal with this. This poor kid is so screwed up anyway.

First, she learns she's the key. Then, she loses her mother and her sister. Now, one surrogate mother will die and the other will go all evil badness.

This just makes no sense!

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She's my everything!

[amberisadamngoddess]

it is what spoilerslayer1 said on the bronze

im not saying i believe it, in fact, i think it sound like a bunch of crap. im just saying i want it to be true, and also passing it on to others so they can formulate their own opinions

i want it to be true, but dont think it is. does that make any sense????

[MAJIK]

Well I read the spoiler last night, and posted, I felt pretty depressed. This afternoon (in UK) I feel disheartened, but hopeful! I don't think it's actually possible for me to believe it, I LOVE Willow and Tara, together, undead!!! Until I see something different, thats how I'm going to be thinking of them at the end of the season.

Big hugs to all saddened Kitties, I love this community - strong like an Amazon.

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'So hard to believe such a hot mama yama came from humble geek-infested roots.'

[Enigmatic]

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Originally posted by Dr.G:
AngelX has been wrong before, and she never claimed to be a 100% accurate, so who knows..]

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Sorry...my fault!
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[kitten scout]

It really doesn't make much sense to kill off such a beloved character, especially when there is only one season to go. And what it would do to Willow is unacceptable. Hasn't the poor girl been through enough - Xander shuns her in the first season, she loose Jenny (who could have been a mentor), Oz leaves her, Tara gets her brain sucked, Buffy dies, she and Tara break-up, they have a short lived reunion, and then TARA DIES?! I just can't believe Joss would put her through that! I think Willow deserves a happy ending! And that means Tara!

[Dr.G]

Your fault? No fault Enigmatic. I was just replying to something Hush said. Yes, even AngelX has been wrong, we can choose to use that knowledge as we want. I myself really do not know what to believe anymore. I hope she will find out more soon.

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[The Partyman]

Well, I awake today (the five year anniversary of BtVS!) to find that, no AnGeL X's spoilers were not just a bad dream

Why do we seek spoilers. knowing they may bring us so much pain and confusion?

Remember - anything could happen in 21 and 22.

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The Partyman

[Kendahl897]

Does anyone know if this episode has even started filming yet? It is episode 20 we're talking about, right?

[amberisadamngoddess]

I know epp 19 was filming last week so im guessing their filming epp 20 @ the mo

[The Godfather]

My personal theory:

The whole thing is that from the minute Anya accepts to be a demon agan, we're kicked into an alternate WISH dimension. Only she doesn't realize it because she is incapable of cursing Xand so she thinks it failed. But then at the end, some crystal or another is broken..

-Shawn

[Hush]

I said Angel has been wrong before but I didn't mean it as a criticism, I am very grateful she posted the spoiler and specially for the way she wrote it, I just hope she is wrong, am I making sense?

[Epicurus]

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Originally posted by amberisadamngoddess:
it is what spoilerslayer1 said on the bronze

im not saying i believe it, in fact, i think it sound like a bunch of crap. im just saying i want it to be true, and also passing it on to others so they can formulate their own opinions

i want it to be true, but dont think it is. does that make any sense????

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Yeah that makes sense

I too think it's good to have people formulating their own opinions other wise I'd be one lost soul searching the black sea that is my brain if I could not read other's opinions and so forth. I'm rambling.
It's just that has been spread by someone who obviously wanted to add to the confusion and 'reliability' that comes with having the same name as a popular and well trusted spoiler site -> spoilerslayer.com
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[Nessie]

I wonder if angelx has the makeup scene...if so, please post it..I beg you...I need some will/tara happiness..

[Dr.G]

The make up scene has been posted on page 1 of this thread, the very first post.

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[Shewolf]

After much thought, reading all the posts in this thread, and having a nightmare that fautured Tara last night, I decided to stop reading spoilers, and not believeing this one until I read the actual wildfeed.

It's simply not healthy for me to obsess this much over a TV show.If this terrible thing happens, I'll dea with it then. But I simply can't spend months in agony based on one spoiler.

Also, if this is a red herring, released by Joss to punish spoiled people, I think it just goes to show how much he doesn't like spoilers.

[Robin]

I think the denial bus or whatever it is called must be bursting now, kittens hanging out of the doors and windows and some sitting on the top of the bus.
I'm not fond of these news and some pages before I said what consequences these news have for me.
Nevertheless I'm trying to understand what the writers are planning if the spoilers are true.
1. Warren kills Tara
2. Willow goes mad and tortures Warren. Well, if she kills Warren, she can't get away with this. Willow might become the Super Big Bad of next season.
3. Buffy and the remaining Scoobies would have to kill her. I can understand that this would make a storyline, apart from fulfilling all the cliches: the one is killed, the other becomes the evil one, that has to be destroyed.
But in this case I just don't understand why the writers have waited so long for making Willow the Big Bad. They could have done that much sooner: directly after the break from Tara, Willow could have joined Amy and Rack and there you got a smooth and clear road, that would have made sense (at least to me). But no, the writers let Willow suffer this (stupid) drug addiction through the rest of the season.
When I first heard the rumours about Tara being killed and Willow becoming the Big Bad, I thought: " Not what I want, but might be a good storyline." And when the 6th season started, it looked like this scenario might become true, but then they came up with this drug addiction and the whole thing didn't make any sense to me anymore.
If the spoilers are true, it's bad storywriting!
The only thing that really bothers me is that AB signed for 16 ep. and that's what we reached now.

[Nessie]

thanks dr. g..I meant the big possible makeup sex scene..

[Dr.G]

Does not look like we will be getting that.

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[Epicurus]

Nessie, I hope it makes you more happy than it makes me.
All that make up scene gives me now is a big lump in my throat and teary eyes.
Happiness smappiness.
*weeps quietly*

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A response to Shewolf...
I think that if this is a red herring, Joss more than just hates spoilers he down right LOATHES them.
How could he cause us so much pain otherwise?
I'd say lets throw him into the same hell dimension that Angel was in.

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[Perfume V]

Now I think about it... if we're going to be flipping into alternate universes, might the events of the next episode have something to do with it?

From www.buffy.com

Buffy is sent into a wild fluctuation between alternative realities - in one world she's the vampire slayer, in the other she's been institutionalized for severe delusional schizophrenia.

With either world appealing and disturbing for different reasons, she faces a difficult choice of which reality to accept.

Seems like a likely contender, no?

[Warduke]

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Originally posted by Robin:

Willow could have joined Amy and Rack and there you got a smooth and clear road, that would have made sense (at least to me).

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WTF? This would have made sense to you?

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Originally posted by Robin:

When I first heard the rumours about Tara being killed and Willow becoming the Big Bad, I thought: " Not what I want, but might be a good storyline."

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Oh really, so Tara dying and Willow becoming the big bad sounded like a good storyline to you? Well I guess you and I don't have the same definition of what being a W/T shipper is now do we?

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Joss---

"I have no plans to send Tara anywhere. Amber Benson and Alyson Hanigan have such great chemistry: they're so great together, and they're very romantic together. We have terrible, terrible things to do to them because they are on my show, so needless to say, horrible things will happen-but as a couple, I think they work really well. As for Amber, even if she weren't going out with Willow, I think she's become a big part of the heart of the show."

Just something to think about.

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Oh yeah, go Robin, this is just the time and place to share *those* thoughts with us. And it's not the first time you have been so gracious. Thanks.

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amberisadamngoddess
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where did you hear this joss quote from????

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Well, it gives me no pleasure to say that I was one of the first onto the big red Scully Bus, and I have not moved from my seat behind Puff and next to navigator Bob since that time

The more I think of this the less I think it will be Tara. You've heard the reasons:

* Joss and Co have done the mojo on us before, nothing new there, except this time it's hit a nerve. Would we be so worked up if it were Spike leaving, I think not.

* As Bob so beautifully put it, it makes no sense from a narrative, storyline point. Joss and co are crafters, it would be like Michaelangelo sticking Daffy Duck's head on the statue of David....

* The third reaason, which no one has raised [as far as I can see] is that of 'Character Development'.....Again Bob can put me right on this but it's something that is constantly alluded to in the UK over the quality of the best American sit-coms...that the audience see the characters development through several seasons.

Tara, IMO, is still a character in development, who has really only just started not being just Willows g/f in this season. I've banged on for ages about how there is more to Tara than meets the eye, and I'm sticking to that view. It makes no sense for ME to start to get to grips with Tara's development, show us all that she is strong, principled, spiritual, a natural mentor, guide and enabler for all the Scoobies, only to dispose of her just as she is poised to take over Giles' place.

No, I still think its a scam.

I have faith in Joss, ME and very especially Amber to deliver the goods.

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*EDITED for inappropriate words during a time grief, take it elsewhere

But apart from this, I'm sorry for the way I expressed my thought (english is not my mother language), it wasn't meant that rough as it may sound now.

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Joss---

"I have no plans to send Tara anywhere. Amber Benson and Alyson Hanigan have such great chemistry: they're so great together, and they're very romantic together. We have terrible, terrible things to do to them because they are on my show, so needless to say, horrible things will happen-but as a couple, I think they work really well. As for Amber, even if she weren't going out with Willow, I think she's become a big part of the heart of the show."

Just something to think about.

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posted March 10, 2002 11:10                Joss---

"I have no plans to send Tara anywhere. Amber Benson and Alyson Hanigan have such great chemistry: they're so great together, and they're very romantic together. We have terrible, terrible things to do to them because they are on my show, so needless to say, horrible things will happen-but as a couple, I think they work really well. As for Amber, even if she weren't going out with Willow, I think she's become a big part of the heart of the show."

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Oh yeah, go Robin, this is just the time and place to share *those* thoughts with us. And it's not the first time you have been so gracious. Thanks.

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posted March 10, 2002 11:11                Oh yeah, go Robin, this is just the time and place to share *those* thoughts with us. And it's not the first time you have been so gracious. Thanks.

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where did you hear this joss quote from????

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Well, it gives me no pleasure to say that I was one of the first onto the big red Scully Bus, and I have not moved from my seat behind Puff and next to navigator Bob since that time

The more I think of this the less I think it will be Tara. You've heard the reasons:

* Joss and Co have done the mojo on us before, nothing new there, except this time it's hit a nerve. Would we be so worked up if it were Spike leaving, I think not.

* As Bob so beautifully put it, it makes no sense from a narrative, storyline point. Joss and co are crafters, it would be like Michaelangelo sticking Daffy Duck's head on the statue of David....

* The third reaason, which no one has raised [as far as I can see] is that of 'Character Development'.....Again Bob can put me right on this but it's something that is constantly alluded to in the UK over the quality of the best American sit-coms...that the audience see the characters development through several seasons.

Tara, IMO, is still a character in development, who has really only just started not being just Willows g/f in this season. I've banged on for ages about how there is more to Tara than meets the eye, and I'm sticking to that view. It makes no sense for ME to start to get to grips with Tara's development, show us all that she is strong, principled, spiritual, a natural mentor, guide and enabler for all the Scoobies, only to dispose of her just as she is poised to take over Giles' place.

No, I still think its a scam.

I have faith in Joss, ME and very especially Amber to deliver the goods.

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*Hands! Hands in new places!*

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posted March 10, 2002 11:12                Well, it gives me no pleasure to say that I was one of the first onto the big red Scully Bus, and I have not moved from my seat behind Puff and next to navigator Bob since that time

The more I think of this the less I think it will be Tara. You've heard the reasons:

* Joss and Co have done the mojo on us before, nothing new there, except this time it's hit a nerve. Would we be so worked up if it were Spike leaving, I think not.

* As Bob so beautifully put it, it makes no sense from a narrative, storyline point. Joss and co are crafters, it would be like Michaelangelo sticking Daffy Duck's head on the statue of David....

* The third reaason, which no one has raised [as far as I can see] is that of 'Character Development'.....Again Bob can put me right on this but it's something that is constantly alluded to in the UK over the quality of the best American sit-coms...that the audience see the characters development through several seasons.

Tara, IMO, is still a character in development, who has really only just started not being just Willows g/f in this season. I've banged on for ages about how there is more to Tara than meets the eye, and I'm sticking to that view. It makes no sense for ME to start to get to grips with Tara's development, show us all that she is strong, principled, spiritual, a natural mentor, guide and enabler for all the Scoobies, only to dispose of her just as she is poised to take over Giles' place.

No, I still think its a scam.

I have faith in Joss, ME and very especially Amber to deliver the goods.

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love and kisses

Still Waters Run Deep

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Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 10, 2002 11:14               

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*EDITED for inappropriate words during a time grief, take it elsewhere

But apart from this, I'm sorry for the way I expressed my thought (english is not my mother language), it wasn't meant that rough as it may sound now.

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posted March 10, 2002 11:14                *EDITED for inappropriate words during a time grief, take it elsewhere

But apart from this, I'm sorry for the way I expressed my thought (english is not my mother language), it wasn't meant that rough as it may sound now.

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[Kendahl897]

Joss---

"I have no plans to send Tara anywhere. Amber Benson and Alyson Hanigan have such great chemistry: they're so great together, and they're very romantic together. We have terrible, terrible things to do to them because they are on my show, so needless to say, horrible things will happen-but as a couple, I think they work really well. As for Amber, even if she weren't going out with Willow, I think she's become a big part of the heart of the show."

Just something to think about.