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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Sarah-B » Thu Mar 07, 2002 11:13 pm

OK, I have a question. And it's kinda of a naughty question. So if this is too naughty, then sorry in advance and all. Although it's not as naughty as the fics themselves, it's just a question. And, well...

("Get on with it Sarah!")

ok.

B/F, W/T...whoever it is in the fics...
I was just wondering why, in most cases, the sex involves...um...fingers, much more often than um, oral?
Not that this is dumb, wrong, boring, not-me, or any of the above. It's just that, the two are kinda, equally fun in my book
Has anyone else noticed the fics favour one style over the other? Or am I just not reading the right fics?

Ok, done baby. I expect to be either deleted hastily, or to get lots of replies Just don't leave me out here naked with a big fat 'zero' replies beside my name!

Sarah-B.

PS. Sorry mods if this should have been on the pens board instead. I figured it's a discussion topic, rather than an actual fic or whatever.

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posted March 08, 2002 01:16               
Yes I agree, not enough oral for my hmm tastes

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posted March 08, 2002 01:18               
Oh naughty stuff, that usually assures many replies here, no worries.

*sits back and lights one in advance

Julia, Wiccie, Ruth, come along dears, enlighten me.

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posted March 08, 2002 01:28               
quote:
Originally posted by Sarah-B:
B/F, W/T...whoever it is in the fics...
I was just wondering why, in most cases, the sex involves...um...fingers, much more often than um, oral?
Not that this is dumb, wrong, boring, not-me, or any of the above. It's just that, the two are kinda, equally fun in my book
Has anyone else noticed the fics favour one style over the other? Or am I just not reading the right fics?

You're not reading the right fics.

I try to have a smattering of both in my fics, as I believe that fair's fair and it's always nice to have some variety.

I think possibly most writers might use the "finger" method because that allows the women to touch one another as well as kiss one another, and it also means they can get easy access. It's generally easier to slide fingers into panties in fic, or down trousers, or up skirts or whatever.

Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.

Like I said, you're clearly reading the wrong fics. Heh. Go for someone more imaginative next time.

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posted March 08, 2002 01:30               
i agree with ruth. most good fanfic writers use variety. they even implement the one thing that kerry from er apparently loves best...

nic

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posted March 08, 2002 01:32               
Again nic, yes yes yes. But you know, that requires even more planning. Unless they're just um...wearing it for a laugh anyway. Ahem.

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posted March 08, 2002 02:00               
Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!

Ummm, I've actually wondered that, too. And not just the propensity for manual over oral, but for manual over everything. As (most) everyone knows, there are a LOT of fun things for a coupla girls to do in bed. Yes, I have seen just about every position and method in fan fic, but I agree that the "finger method" seems to be the leader.

Why?

First and foremost, I agree with Ruth that manual is the easiest to write in that fingers are sneaky and versatile sex toys. They can come into play in any setting with little or no set up. But second, I have my own personal theory that manual stimulation seems to be like lesbian missionary position or something. You know, something that "good girls" who are truly in love would do. It's romantic and, like Ruth said, allows mutual pleasuring and that all-important face-to-face contact with lots of deep, passionate kissing. Since Willow and Tara, in particular, are painted as the poster couple for true love and romance, I think a lot of writers probably embrace this type of lovemaking. I mean "69" provides both mutual pleasuring AND oral sex, but I think it falls somewhat further down on the vanilla scale than the "finger method" for some writers. Plus, it's harder to describe neatly in paragraph form.

Me? I'd find Willow and Tara romantic in most any position. I have no doubt they know how to have fun in all kinds of ways.

BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!

Amy

Oh, and just for Bob, I'm going to put this little shy face up to save him the trouble.

And one more thing, when am I gonna get my Kitten Board "Lesbo Perv Cred" card? I mean, I never shy away from sex talk, but it's always "Ruth this" and "Julia that." Guess I'm gonna have to post some smut on the Pens.

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posted March 08, 2002 02:13               
Thanks Amy. I believe that if you can smell it, you're too close.

However, yes, it takes some redrafting to come up with smut. Ahem. Not that I'd know...

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posted March 08, 2002 02:32               
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Originally posted by Willowlicious:
Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!


BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!


I totally agree and when it comes to the finger method or orally, personally I don't care either way as long as it gets the job done.

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posted March 08, 2002 02:56               

*affects Cartman impression*

You people have warped my fragile little mind

Yet to write a smut scene myself. Mind you, I write so damned slowly these days. Haven't really thought about how it can be done - the writing, that is - I mean, I've thought about it, as all dirty little boys do!

Hmmm (dons thinking cap) I'm really gonna have to put some serious thought into this - in the best academic way, of course!

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posted March 08, 2002 03:09               
Wrong fanfic definately. I write Xena fan fiction and I use plenty of both. I am constantly inspired by wife.The smuttier the better in my book. Excuse me but tits,tongues,fingers and ass are my favorite subject to write about.

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posted March 08, 2002 14:34               
*dashing in late, as usual*

I'm here, Dr.G!

What's the emergency? Ah, yes, Overuse of Digital-Manual Stimulation in F/F Fanfic...Which can lead not only to boredom, but a severe case of carpell-tunnel syndrome.

*pompously puffing pipe*

I prescribe reading other fics - like mine. I have stroven (in the past) to provide a high quality of funny-smut and equally high occurrance of mutual oral examination and stimulation.

*puff puff*

In the present I strive to entertain Mrs.Wiccie with all the possible future fic ideas - a "field test", if you will - which has, so far, led to not a single page of fic being written and the oft dehydration of Mrs. Wiccie.

I leave the landscape porn to Ruth (*wink*), and I suppose my early retirement from fanfic writing precludes me from being considered an Official Kitten Board Perv, although I myself feel overqualified for such a position, or any other position that may become necessary to carry out said responsibilities of said previously said positions.

Yes, quite...*puff puff*

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posted March 08, 2002 14:37               
ROFL Wiccie, thank you, I really needed a good laugh.

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posted March 08, 2002 14:39               
Landscape porn. Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? Hmmm.

No more landscape porn for a while methinks. But hey, plenty of shagging in a library though. Huzzah!

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posted March 08, 2002 14:58               
You're welcome, Dr.G...What can I say, I Live to Perve.

Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:03               
*sigh*

This thread would come up today of all days.

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*

For my part, I have to agree with Willowlicious (Amy, is it?) and say that for whatever reason, finger trolling (not to be confused with board trolling) seems to lend itself more easily to prose than certain other fun activities. More than that, though, I just see Willow and Tara in particular as having a big thing for each other's hands. That of course has NOTHING to do with the fact that, I, myself, have a big thing for women's hands. Certainly not. It's all about Willowhand, baby. Not to mention Tarafingers. Oral sex is great fun to write, too, but man, oh man... those hands. *happy sigh*

And Woo! I'm official? Hehe. I welcome the coming (ahem) of new smut authors to the Pens board. Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:18               
quote:
Originally posted by Wiccie:
Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

Well yes. And uh...no. See, I wanted to write this smut and then I started writing it and it just ended up being a story to start off with and 14 pages later it's still not up to the smut but there's looking and touching and...

Eh. You'll have to wait. I get excited. What can I say?

quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:
Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

*tears in eyes* Oh. The humanity.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:24               
And never come between a whore and her bint.

Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

-Sass
Heh ... just noticed the Hell's Bells Boob Grab added in the little changing pictures at the bottom of the screen. I'm sure my coworkers are wondering what I'm grinning about.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:28               
quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.


Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela

But one who can still appreciate *good smut*

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posted March 08, 2002 15:42               
One thing I'd like to add as a thought. It might be that some writers are subconciously writing W/T sex in thier fics as extensions of W/T interactions in the show.

i.e., due to whatever combination of stupid factors, Willow and Tara don't often kiss, and don't often use thier mouths when they interact lovingly, i.e, not just few mouth kisses, but also no neck or shoulder or palm kisses either, no finger sucking, no feeding each other meals, no air kisses, no licking of lips, etc. But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

So maybe it's easier for some writers to see them continuing to use thier hands to make love more than thier mouths.

(In the whopping two W/T sex scenes I've ever written, one was pretty hands-centric, while the other...well, Tara is yummy, and Willow was hungry. As it were.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:46               
quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*


LOL Julia, yeah I noticed the coincidence. You had better make it up with some oral exercises now. Go on, stop reading this thread. Smut me. I need it.

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posted March 08, 2002 16:02               
quote:
Originally posted by Still Waters Run Deep:
Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela


What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!

quote:
Originally posted by Sassette:
And never come between a whore and her bint.Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

Oh I don't usually make invitations. I generally just go with the um...uh...the flow. Ahem.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Heh. Hand. I made a funny...

Len, you make a great point. I think if I had to define the tactile nature of Willow and Tara, it would probably be that they are always reaching for one another. Their fingers intertwined. Back rubbing. Hand holding. Finger brushing.

I've also noticed that they like eye contact. Especially after Hell's Bells, it seems to me that looking at one another is vitally important to their connection. I know that in a lot of fanfics, much is made of them making eye contact and meeting gazes. For them, I think it's a way of communicating without words that suits their characters. I usually do a lot of eye contact in my fics, mainly because I think Aly and Amber have particularly beautiful eyes. But you know, looks...heh heh. It means stuff.

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posted March 08, 2002 16:38               
quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!


Ruth! I don't want you *cured*...you would'nt be the same!

My spelling let me down, or is it coz I'm still K-lined.... feller/guy/boy/male/shithead/whatever..who cares.

Apart from Luke/Wolfie in Holywell, you're the only other 'nearby' Kitty...and you know all about where I live...so there's a connection...of sorts... plus I love your Fic...

Edited to remove drunken rambling
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posted March 08, 2002 18:21               
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Originally posted by Hugin:
But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

Good point Len, they are so touchy feely. Tara's hands and fingers are never still when she is touching Willow.

As a reader of almost all fic I see a combination of the 2, although fingers are much more common.

Btw Len I think I have read both of the scenes you wrote

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posted March 09, 2002 04:18               
Just another humble opinion... but I had never even considered this as something to contemplate when reading ro writing fic! Reading or writing I tend to get carried away in the moment and just go with the flow... I think some research might be in order revisiting old fics.

I definitely agree about the tactile nature of their relationship though - and the connection through their eyes. A connection which just makes it more painful when one or the other looks away because they cannot take that sort of intensity at that moment. All too common in this current season.

Oh well, off to the archives in the name of serious research.

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posted March 08, 2002 01:16               
Yes I agree, not enough oral for my hmm tastes

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posted March 08, 2002 01:18               
Oh naughty stuff, that usually assures many replies here, no worries.

*sits back and lights one in advance

Julia, Wiccie, Ruth, come along dears, enlighten me.

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*sits back and lights one in advance

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posted March 08, 2002 01:28               


quote:
Originally posted by Sarah-B:
B/F, W/T...whoever it is in the fics...
I was just wondering why, in most cases, the sex involves...um...fingers, much more often than um, oral?
Not that this is dumb, wrong, boring, not-me, or any of the above. It's just that, the two are kinda, equally fun in my book
Has anyone else noticed the fics favour one style over the other? Or am I just not reading the right fics?

You're not reading the right fics.

I try to have a smattering of both in my fics, as I believe that fair's fair and it's always nice to have some variety.

I think possibly most writers might use the "finger" method because that allows the women to touch one another as well as kiss one another, and it also means they can get easy access. It's generally easier to slide fingers into panties in fic, or down trousers, or up skirts or whatever.

Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.

Like I said, you're clearly reading the wrong fics. Heh. Go for someone more imaginative next time.

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posted March 08, 2002 01:28               
quote:
Originally posted by Sarah-B:
B/F, W/T...whoever it is in the fics...
I was just wondering why, in most cases, the sex involves...um...fingers, much more often than um, oral?
Not that this is dumb, wrong, boring, not-me, or any of the above. It's just that, the two are kinda, equally fun in my book
Has anyone else noticed the fics favour one style over the other? Or am I just not reading the right fics?

You're not reading the right fics.

I try to have a smattering of both in my fics, as I believe that fair's fair and it's always nice to have some variety.

I think possibly most writers might use the "finger" method because that allows the women to touch one another as well as kiss one another, and it also means they can get easy access. It's generally easier to slide fingers into panties in fic, or down trousers, or up skirts or whatever.

Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.

Like I said, you're clearly reading the wrong fics. Heh. Go for someone more imaginative next time.

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i agree with ruth. most good fanfic writers use variety. they even implement the one thing that kerry from er apparently loves best...

nic

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posted March 08, 2002 01:30                i agree with ruth. most good fanfic writers use variety. they even implement the one thing that kerry from er apparently loves best...

nic

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posted March 08, 2002 01:32               


Again nic, yes yes yes. But you know, that requires even more planning. Unless they're just um...wearing it for a laugh anyway. Ahem.

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posted March 08, 2002 01:32                Again nic, yes yes yes. But you know, that requires even more planning. Unless they're just um...wearing it for a laugh anyway. Ahem.

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Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!

Ummm, I've actually wondered that, too. And not just the propensity for manual over oral, but for manual over everything. As (most) everyone knows, there are a LOT of fun things for a coupla girls to do in bed. Yes, I have seen just about every position and method in fan fic, but I agree that the "finger method" seems to be the leader.

Why?

First and foremost, I agree with Ruth that manual is the easiest to write in that fingers are sneaky and versatile sex toys. They can come into play in any setting with little or no set up. But second, I have my own personal theory that manual stimulation seems to be like lesbian missionary position or something. You know, something that "good girls" who are truly in love would do. It's romantic and, like Ruth said, allows mutual pleasuring and that all-important face-to-face contact with lots of deep, passionate kissing. Since Willow and Tara, in particular, are painted as the poster couple for true love and romance, I think a lot of writers probably embrace this type of lovemaking. I mean "69" provides both mutual pleasuring AND oral sex, but I think it falls somewhat further down on the vanilla scale than the "finger method" for some writers. Plus, it's harder to describe neatly in paragraph form.

Me? I'd find Willow and Tara romantic in most any position. I have no doubt they know how to have fun in all kinds of ways.

BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!

Amy

Oh, and just for Bob, I'm going to put this little shy face up to save him the trouble.

And one more thing, when am I gonna get my Kitten Board "Lesbo Perv Cred" card? I mean, I never shy away from sex talk, but it's always "Ruth this" and "Julia that." Guess I'm gonna have to post some smut on the Pens.

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posted March 08, 2002 02:00                Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!

Ummm, I've actually wondered that, too. And not just the propensity for manual over oral, but for manual over everything. As (most) everyone knows, there are a LOT of fun things for a coupla girls to do in bed. Yes, I have seen just about every position and method in fan fic, but I agree that the "finger method" seems to be the leader.

Why?

First and foremost, I agree with Ruth that manual is the easiest to write in that fingers are sneaky and versatile sex toys. They can come into play in any setting with little or no set up. But second, I have my own personal theory that manual stimulation seems to be like lesbian missionary position or something. You know, something that "good girls" who are truly in love would do. It's romantic and, like Ruth said, allows mutual pleasuring and that all-important face-to-face contact with lots of deep, passionate kissing. Since Willow and Tara, in particular, are painted as the poster couple for true love and romance, I think a lot of writers probably embrace this type of lovemaking. I mean "69" provides both mutual pleasuring AND oral sex, but I think it falls somewhat further down on the vanilla scale than the "finger method" for some writers. Plus, it's harder to describe neatly in paragraph form.

Me? I'd find Willow and Tara romantic in most any position. I have no doubt they know how to have fun in all kinds of ways.

BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!

Amy

Oh, and just for Bob, I'm going to put this little shy face up to save him the trouble.

And one more thing, when am I gonna get my Kitten Board "Lesbo Perv Cred" card? I mean, I never shy away from sex talk, but it's always "Ruth this" and "Julia that." Guess I'm gonna have to post some smut on the Pens.

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Thanks Amy. I believe that if you can smell it, you're too close.

However, yes, it takes some redrafting to come up with smut. Ahem. Not that I'd know...

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posted March 08, 2002 02:13                Thanks Amy. I believe that if you can smell it, you're too close.

However, yes, it takes some redrafting to come up with smut. Ahem. Not that I'd know...

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quote:
Originally posted by Willowlicious:
Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!


BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!


I totally agree and when it comes to the finger method or orally, personally I don't care either way as long as it gets the job done.

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"Yeah. You learn her source, and, uh, we'll introduce her to her insect reflection.
Um ... that, that was funny if you, um, studied Taglarin mythic rites...and are a complete dork."

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posted March 08, 2002 02:32               
quote:
Originally posted by Willowlicious:
Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!


BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!


I totally agree and when it comes to the finger method or orally, personally I don't care either way as long as it gets the job done.

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"Did you try looking in the sofa in hell?" Willow in Dopplegangland.
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"Yeah. You learn her source, and, uh, we'll introduce her to her insect reflection.
Um ... that, that was funny if you, um, studied Taglarin mythic rites...and are a complete dork."

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posted March 08, 2002 02:56               


*affects Cartman impression*

You people have warped my fragile little mind

Yet to write a smut scene myself. Mind you, I write so damned slowly these days. Haven't really thought about how it can be done - the writing, that is - I mean, I've thought about it, as all dirty little boys do!

Hmmm (dons thinking cap) I'm really gonna have to put some serious thought into this - in the best academic way, of course!

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posted March 08, 2002 02:56               

*affects Cartman impression*

You people have warped my fragile little mind

Yet to write a smut scene myself. Mind you, I write so damned slowly these days. Haven't really thought about how it can be done - the writing, that is - I mean, I've thought about it, as all dirty little boys do!

Hmmm (dons thinking cap) I'm really gonna have to put some serious thought into this - in the best academic way, of course!

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posted March 08, 2002 03:09               


Wrong fanfic definately. I write Xena fan fiction and I use plenty of both. I am constantly inspired by wife.The smuttier the better in my book. Excuse me but tits,tongues,fingers and ass are my favorite subject to write about.

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posted March 08, 2002 03:09                Wrong fanfic definately. I write Xena fan fiction and I use plenty of both. I am constantly inspired by wife.The smuttier the better in my book. Excuse me but tits,tongues,fingers and ass are my favorite subject to write about.

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posted March 08, 2002 14:34               


*dashing in late, as usual*

I'm here, Dr.G!

What's the emergency? Ah, yes, Overuse of Digital-Manual Stimulation in F/F Fanfic...Which can lead not only to boredom, but a severe case of carpell-tunnel syndrome.

*pompously puffing pipe*

I prescribe reading other fics - like mine. I have stroven (in the past) to provide a high quality of funny-smut and equally high occurrance of mutual oral examination and stimulation.

*puff puff*

In the present I strive to entertain Mrs.Wiccie with all the possible future fic ideas - a "field test", if you will - which has, so far, led to not a single page of fic being written and the oft dehydration of Mrs. Wiccie.

I leave the landscape porn to Ruth (*wink*), and I suppose my early retirement from fanfic writing precludes me from being considered an Official Kitten Board Perv, although I myself feel overqualified for such a position, or any other position that may become necessary to carry out said responsibilities of said previously said positions.

Yes, quite...*puff puff*

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posted March 08, 2002 14:34                *dashing in late, as usual*

I'm here, Dr.G!

What's the emergency? Ah, yes, Overuse of Digital-Manual Stimulation in F/F Fanfic...Which can lead not only to boredom, but a severe case of carpell-tunnel syndrome.

*pompously puffing pipe*

I prescribe reading other fics - like mine. I have stroven (in the past) to provide a high quality of funny-smut and equally high occurrance of mutual oral examination and stimulation.

*puff puff*

In the present I strive to entertain Mrs.Wiccie with all the possible future fic ideas - a "field test", if you will - which has, so far, led to not a single page of fic being written and the oft dehydration of Mrs. Wiccie.

I leave the landscape porn to Ruth (*wink*), and I suppose my early retirement from fanfic writing precludes me from being considered an Official Kitten Board Perv, although I myself feel overqualified for such a position, or any other position that may become necessary to carry out said responsibilities of said previously said positions.

Yes, quite...*puff puff*

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posted March 08, 2002 14:37               


ROFL Wiccie, thank you, I really needed a good laugh.

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posted March 08, 2002 14:39               
Landscape porn. Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? Hmmm.

No more landscape porn for a while methinks. But hey, plenty of shagging in a library though. Huzzah!

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posted March 08, 2002 14:39                Landscape porn. Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? Hmmm.

No more landscape porn for a while methinks. But hey, plenty of shagging in a library though. Huzzah!

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posted March 08, 2002 14:58               


You're welcome, Dr.G...What can I say, I Live to Perve.

Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:03               


*sigh*

This thread would come up today of all days.

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*

For my part, I have to agree with Willowlicious (Amy, is it?) and say that for whatever reason, finger trolling (not to be confused with board trolling) seems to lend itself more easily to prose than certain other fun activities. More than that, though, I just see Willow and Tara in particular as having a big thing for each other's hands. That of course has NOTHING to do with the fact that, I, myself, have a big thing for women's hands. Certainly not. It's all about Willowhand, baby. Not to mention Tarafingers. Oral sex is great fun to write, too, but man, oh man... those hands. *happy sigh*

And Woo! I'm official? Hehe. I welcome the coming (ahem) of new smut authors to the Pens board. Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:03                *sigh*

This thread would come up today of all days.

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*

For my part, I have to agree with Willowlicious (Amy, is it?) and say that for whatever reason, finger trolling (not to be confused with board trolling) seems to lend itself more easily to prose than certain other fun activities. More than that, though, I just see Willow and Tara in particular as having a big thing for each other's hands. That of course has NOTHING to do with the fact that, I, myself, have a big thing for women's hands. Certainly not. It's all about Willowhand, baby. Not to mention Tarafingers. Oral sex is great fun to write, too, but man, oh man... those hands. *happy sigh*

And Woo! I'm official? Hehe. I welcome the coming (ahem) of new smut authors to the Pens board. Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:18               


quote:
Originally posted by Wiccie:
Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

Well yes. And uh...no. See, I wanted to write this smut and then I started writing it and it just ended up being a story to start off with and 14 pages later it's still not up to the smut but there's looking and touching and...

Eh. You'll have to wait. I get excited. What can I say?

quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:
Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

*tears in eyes* Oh. The humanity.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:18               
quote:
Originally posted by Wiccie:
Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

Well yes. And uh...no. See, I wanted to write this smut and then I started writing it and it just ended up being a story to start off with and 14 pages later it's still not up to the smut but there's looking and touching and...

Eh. You'll have to wait. I get excited. What can I say?

quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:
Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

*tears in eyes* Oh. The humanity.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:24               


And never come between a whore and her bint.

Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

-Sass
Heh ... just noticed the Hell's Bells Boob Grab added in the little changing pictures at the bottom of the screen. I'm sure my coworkers are wondering what I'm grinning about.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:24                And never come between a whore and her bint.

Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

-Sass
Heh ... just noticed the Hell's Bells Boob Grab added in the little changing pictures at the bottom of the screen. I'm sure my coworkers are wondering what I'm grinning about.
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posted March 08, 2002 15:28               


quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.


Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela

But one who can still appreciate *good smut*

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quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.


Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela

But one who can still appreciate *good smut*

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posted March 08, 2002 15:42               


One thing I'd like to add as a thought. It might be that some writers are subconciously writing W/T sex in thier fics as extensions of W/T interactions in the show.

i.e., due to whatever combination of stupid factors, Willow and Tara don't often kiss, and don't often use thier mouths when they interact lovingly, i.e, not just few mouth kisses, but also no neck or shoulder or palm kisses either, no finger sucking, no feeding each other meals, no air kisses, no licking of lips, etc. But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

So maybe it's easier for some writers to see them continuing to use thier hands to make love more than thier mouths.

(In the whopping two W/T sex scenes I've ever written, one was pretty hands-centric, while the other...well, Tara is yummy, and Willow was hungry. As it were.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:42                One thing I'd like to add as a thought. It might be that some writers are subconciously writing W/T sex in thier fics as extensions of W/T interactions in the show.

i.e., due to whatever combination of stupid factors, Willow and Tara don't often kiss, and don't often use thier mouths when they interact lovingly, i.e, not just few mouth kisses, but also no neck or shoulder or palm kisses either, no finger sucking, no feeding each other meals, no air kisses, no licking of lips, etc. But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

So maybe it's easier for some writers to see them continuing to use thier hands to make love more than thier mouths.

(In the whopping two W/T sex scenes I've ever written, one was pretty hands-centric, while the other...well, Tara is yummy, and Willow was hungry. As it were.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:46               


quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*


LOL Julia, yeah I noticed the coincidence. You had better make it up with some oral exercises now. Go on, stop reading this thread. Smut me. I need it.

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posted March 08, 2002 15:46               
quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*


LOL Julia, yeah I noticed the coincidence. You had better make it up with some oral exercises now. Go on, stop reading this thread. Smut me. I need it.
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posted March 08, 2002 16:02               


quote:
Originally posted by Still Waters Run Deep:
Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela


What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!

quote:
Originally posted by Sassette:
And never come between a whore and her bint.Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

Oh I don't usually make invitations. I generally just go with the um...uh...the flow. Ahem.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Heh. Hand. I made a funny...

Len, you make a great point. I think if I had to define the tactile nature of Willow and Tara, it would probably be that they are always reaching for one another. Their fingers intertwined. Back rubbing. Hand holding. Finger brushing.

I've also noticed that they like eye contact. Especially after Hell's Bells, it seems to me that looking at one another is vitally important to their connection. I know that in a lot of fanfics, much is made of them making eye contact and meeting gazes. For them, I think it's a way of communicating without words that suits their characters. I usually do a lot of eye contact in my fics, mainly because I think Aly and Amber have particularly beautiful eyes. But you know, looks...heh heh. It means stuff.

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posted March 08, 2002 16:02               
quote:
Originally posted by Still Waters Run Deep:
Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela


What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!

quote:
Originally posted by Sassette:
And never come between a whore and her bint.Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

Oh I don't usually make invitations. I generally just go with the um...uh...the flow. Ahem.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Heh. Hand. I made a funny...

Len, you make a great point. I think if I had to define the tactile nature of Willow and Tara, it would probably be that they are always reaching for one another. Their fingers intertwined. Back rubbing. Hand holding. Finger brushing.

I've also noticed that they like eye contact. Especially after Hell's Bells, it seems to me that looking at one another is vitally important to their connection. I know that in a lot of fanfics, much is made of them making eye contact and meeting gazes. For them, I think it's a way of communicating without words that suits their characters. I usually do a lot of eye contact in my fics, mainly because I think Aly and Amber have particularly beautiful eyes. But you know, looks...heh heh. It means stuff.

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posted March 08, 2002 16:38               


quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!


Ruth! I don't want you *cured*...you would'nt be the same!

My spelling let me down, or is it coz I'm still K-lined.... feller/guy/boy/male/shithead/whatever..who cares.

Apart from Luke/Wolfie in Holywell, you're the only other 'nearby' Kitty...and you know all about where I live...so there's a connection...of sorts... plus I love your Fic...

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posted March 08, 2002 16:38               
quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!


Ruth! I don't want you *cured*...you would'nt be the same!

My spelling let me down, or is it coz I'm still K-lined.... feller/guy/boy/male/shithead/whatever..who cares.

Apart from Luke/Wolfie in Holywell, you're the only other 'nearby' Kitty...and you know all about where I live...so there's a connection...of sorts... plus I love your Fic...

Edited to remove drunken rambling
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posted March 08, 2002 18:21               


quote:
Originally posted by Hugin:
But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

Good point Len, they are so touchy feely. Tara's hands and fingers are never still when she is touching Willow.

As a reader of almost all fic I see a combination of the 2, although fingers are much more common.

Btw Len I think I have read both of the scenes you wrote

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posted March 08, 2002 18:21               
quote:
Originally posted by Hugin:
But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

Good point Len, they are so touchy feely. Tara's hands and fingers are never still when she is touching Willow.

As a reader of almost all fic I see a combination of the 2, although fingers are much more common.

Btw Len I think I have read both of the scenes you wrote

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posted March 09, 2002 04:18               


Just another humble opinion... but I had never even considered this as something to contemplate when reading ro writing fic! Reading or writing I tend to get carried away in the moment and just go with the flow... I think some research might be in order revisiting old fics.

I definitely agree about the tactile nature of their relationship though - and the connection through their eyes. A connection which just makes it more painful when one or the other looks away because they cannot take that sort of intensity at that moment. All too common in this current season.

Oh well, off to the archives in the name of serious research.

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posted March 09, 2002 04:18                Just another humble opinion... but I had never even considered this as something to contemplate when reading ro writing fic! Reading or writing I tend to get carried away in the moment and just go with the flow... I think some research might be in order revisiting old fics.

I definitely agree about the tactile nature of their relationship though - and the connection through their eyes. A connection which just makes it more painful when one or the other looks away because they cannot take that sort of intensity at that moment. All too common in this current season.

Oh well, off to the archives in the name of serious research.

Katharyn

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby xita » Thu Mar 07, 2002 11:16 pm

Yes I agree, not enough oral for my hmm tastes
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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Dr.G » Thu Mar 07, 2002 11:18 pm

Oh naughty stuff, that usually assures many replies here, no worries.

*sits back and lights one in advance

Julia, Wiccie, Ruth, come along dears, enlighten me.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby tommo » Thu Mar 07, 2002 11:28 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Sarah-B:
B/F, W/T...whoever it is in the fics...
I was just wondering why, in most cases, the sex involves...um...fingers, much more often than um, oral?
Not that this is dumb, wrong, boring, not-me, or any of the above. It's just that, the two are kinda, equally fun in my book
Has anyone else noticed the fics favour one style over the other? Or am I just not reading the right fics?

You're not reading the right fics.

I try to have a smattering of both in my fics, as I believe that fair's fair and it's always nice to have some variety.

I think possibly most writers might use the "finger" method because that allows the women to touch one another as well as kiss one another, and it also means they can get easy access. It's generally easier to slide fingers into panties in fic, or down trousers, or up skirts or whatever.

Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.

Like I said, you're clearly reading the wrong fics. Heh. Go for someone more imaginative next time.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby dreiser » Thu Mar 07, 2002 11:30 pm

i agree with ruth. most good fanfic writers use variety. they even implement the one thing that kerry from er apparently loves best...

nic

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby tommo » Thu Mar 07, 2002 11:32 pm

Again nic, yes yes yes. But you know, that requires even more planning. Unless they're just um...wearing it for a laugh anyway. Ahem.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Willowlicious » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:00 am

Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!

Ummm, I've actually wondered that, too. And not just the propensity for manual over oral, but for manual over everything. As (most) everyone knows, there are a LOT of fun things for a coupla girls to do in bed. Yes, I have seen just about every position and method in fan fic, but I agree that the "finger method" seems to be the leader.

Why?

First and foremost, I agree with Ruth that manual is the easiest to write in that fingers are sneaky and versatile sex toys. They can come into play in any setting with little or no set up. But second, I have my own personal theory that manual stimulation seems to be like lesbian missionary position or something. You know, something that "good girls" who are truly in love would do. It's romantic and, like Ruth said, allows mutual pleasuring and that all-important face-to-face contact with lots of deep, passionate kissing. Since Willow and Tara, in particular, are painted as the poster couple for true love and romance, I think a lot of writers probably embrace this type of lovemaking. I mean "69" provides both mutual pleasuring AND oral sex, but I think it falls somewhat further down on the vanilla scale than the "finger method" for some writers. Plus, it's harder to describe neatly in paragraph form.

Me? I'd find Willow and Tara romantic in most any position. I have no doubt they know how to have fun in all kinds of ways.

BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!

Amy

Oh, and just for Bob, I'm going to put this little shy face up to save him the trouble.

And one more thing, when am I gonna get my Kitten Board "Lesbo Perv Cred" card? I mean, I never shy away from sex talk, but it's always "Ruth this" and "Julia that." Guess I'm gonna have to post some smut on the Pens.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby tommo » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:13 am

Thanks Amy. I believe that if you can smell it, you're too close.

However, yes, it takes some redrafting to come up with smut. Ahem. Not that I'd know...

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby willow420 » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:32 am

quote:
Originally posted by Willowlicious:
Ooooo! A sex question! Yay!!


BTW, Ruth, I've always loved your fic. You're the rare fic writer who believes in both gorgeous, detailed narrative AND hot, inventive sex scenes. Woo and Hoo!


I totally agree and when it comes to the finger method or orally, personally I don't care either way as long as it gets the job done.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Wolfie » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:56 am

*affects Cartman impression*

You people have warped my fragile little mind

Yet to write a smut scene myself. Mind you, I write so damned slowly these days. Haven't really thought about how it can be done - the writing, that is - I mean, I've thought about it, as all dirty little boys do!

Hmmm (dons thinking cap) I'm really gonna have to put some serious thought into this - in the best academic way, of course!

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Genea » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:09 am

Wrong fanfic definately. I write Xena fan fiction and I use plenty of both. I am constantly inspired by wife.The smuttier the better in my book. Excuse me but tits,tongues,fingers and ass are my favorite subject to write about.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby wiccie » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:34 pm

*dashing in late, as usual*

I'm here, Dr.G!

What's the emergency? Ah, yes, Overuse of Digital-Manual Stimulation in F/F Fanfic...Which can lead not only to boredom, but a severe case of carpell-tunnel syndrome.

*pompously puffing pipe*

I prescribe reading other fics - like mine. I have stroven (in the past) to provide a high quality of funny-smut and equally high occurrance of mutual oral examination and stimulation.

*puff puff*

In the present I strive to entertain Mrs.Wiccie with all the possible future fic ideas - a "field test", if you will - which has, so far, led to not a single page of fic being written and the oft dehydration of Mrs. Wiccie.

I leave the landscape porn to Ruth (*wink*), and I suppose my early retirement from fanfic writing precludes me from being considered an Official Kitten Board Perv, although I myself feel overqualified for such a position, or any other position that may become necessary to carry out said responsibilities of said previously said positions.

Yes, quite...*puff puff*

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Dr.G » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:37 pm

ROFL Wiccie, thank you, I really needed a good laugh.
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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby tommo » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:39 pm

Landscape porn. Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays? Hmmm.

No more landscape porn for a while methinks. But hey, plenty of shagging in a library though. Huzzah!

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby wiccie » Fri Mar 08, 2002 12:58 pm

You're welcome, Dr.G...What can I say, I Live to Perve.

Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Dumbsaint » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:03 pm

*sigh*

This thread would come up today of all days.

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*

For my part, I have to agree with Willowlicious (Amy, is it?) and say that for whatever reason, finger trolling (not to be confused with board trolling) seems to lend itself more easily to prose than certain other fun activities. More than that, though, I just see Willow and Tara in particular as having a big thing for each other's hands. That of course has NOTHING to do with the fact that, I, myself, have a big thing for women's hands. Certainly not. It's all about Willowhand, baby. Not to mention Tarafingers. Oral sex is great fun to write, too, but man, oh man... those hands. *happy sigh*

And Woo! I'm official? Hehe. I welcome the coming (ahem) of new smut authors to the Pens board. Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby tommo » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:18 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Wiccie:
Landscape, schmandscape, Ruth - is you is or is you ain't writing smut? Sex in a library? I swear I'm not gettting *any* of these important memos. Sheesh.

Well yes. And uh...no. See, I wanted to write this smut and then I started writing it and it just ended up being a story to start off with and 14 pages later it's still not up to the smut but there's looking and touching and...

Eh. You'll have to wait. I get excited. What can I say?

quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:
Ruth and I just have a very special relationship. A whore and her bint. It's a beautiful thing.

*tears in eyes* Oh. The humanity.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Sassette » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:24 pm

And never come between a whore and her bint.

Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

-Sass
Heh ... just noticed the Hell's Bells Boob Grab added in the little changing pictures at the bottom of the screen. I'm sure my coworkers are wondering what I'm grinning about.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Still Waters Run Deep » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:28 pm

quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
Having a head stuck in those places is rather obviously time consuming and requires a little more strategy than just stickin' yer fingers in. Although I do believe it often produces more thrilling results.


Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela

But one who can still appreciate *good smut*

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*Hands! Hands in new places!*quote:

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Hugin » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:42 pm

One thing I'd like to add as a thought. It might be that some writers are subconciously writing W/T sex in thier fics as extensions of W/T interactions in the show.

i.e., due to whatever combination of stupid factors, Willow and Tara don't often kiss, and don't often use thier mouths when they interact lovingly, i.e, not just few mouth kisses, but also no neck or shoulder or palm kisses either, no finger sucking, no feeding each other meals, no air kisses, no licking of lips, etc. But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

So maybe it's easier for some writers to see them continuing to use thier hands to make love more than thier mouths.

(In the whopping two W/T sex scenes I've ever written, one was pretty hands-centric, while the other...well, Tara is yummy, and Willow was hungry. As it were.

-len

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Dr.G » Fri Mar 08, 2002 1:46 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Dumbsaint:

*swears she didn't just two minutes ago post a finger-happy new smutfic to Pens*


LOL Julia, yeah I noticed the coincidence. You had better make it up with some oral exercises now. Go on, stop reading this thread. Smut me. I need it.
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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby tommo » Fri Mar 08, 2002 2:02 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Still Waters Run Deep:
Ruth you are incorrigable!

I just have to meet you sometime, just to discuss fic of course.....
I'm a Fela


What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!

quote:
Originally posted by Sassette:
And never come between a whore and her bint.Well, unless you're naked, and they invite you to.

Oh I don't usually make invitations. I generally just go with the um...uh...the flow. Ahem.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Heh. Hand. I made a funny...

Len, you make a great point. I think if I had to define the tactile nature of Willow and Tara, it would probably be that they are always reaching for one another. Their fingers intertwined. Back rubbing. Hand holding. Finger brushing.

I've also noticed that they like eye contact. Especially after Hell's Bells, it seems to me that looking at one another is vitally important to their connection. I know that in a lot of fanfics, much is made of them making eye contact and meeting gazes. For them, I think it's a way of communicating without words that suits their characters. I usually do a lot of eye contact in my fics, mainly because I think Aly and Amber have particularly beautiful eyes. But you know, looks...heh heh. It means stuff.

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Still Waters Run Deep » Fri Mar 08, 2002 2:38 pm

quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
What's a "fela"? Are you a boy? Woo! I'm cured! I want the boys now!


Ruth! I don't want you *cured*...you would'nt be the same!

My spelling let me down, or is it coz I'm still K-lined.... feller/guy/boy/male/shithead/whatever..who cares.

Apart from Luke/Wolfie in Holywell, you're the only other 'nearby' Kitty...and you know all about where I live...so there's a connection...of sorts... plus I love your Fic...

Edited to remove drunken rambling
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love and kisses

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*Hands! Hands in new places!*

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Puff » Fri Mar 08, 2002 4:21 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Hugin:
But they do touch each other. Hold hands, touch elbows, trail hands down arms, intertwine fingers, stroke hair, etc.

Good point Len, they are so touchy feely. Tara's hands and fingers are never still when she is touching Willow.

As a reader of almost all fic I see a combination of the 2, although fingers are much more common.

Btw Len I think I have read both of the scenes you wrote

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Katharyn » Sat Mar 09, 2002 2:18 am

Just another humble opinion... but I had never even considered this as something to contemplate when reading ro writing fic! Reading or writing I tend to get carried away in the moment and just go with the flow... I think some research might be in order revisiting old fics.

I definitely agree about the tactile nature of their relationship though - and the connection through their eyes. A connection which just makes it more painful when one or the other looks away because they cannot take that sort of intensity at that moment. All too common in this current season.

Oh well, off to the archives in the name of serious research.

Katharyn

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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Karzia » Sat Mar 09, 2002 11:14 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Genea:
Wrong fanfic definately. I write Xena fan fiction and I use plenty of both. I am constantly inspired by wife.The smuttier the better in my book. Excuse me but tits,tongues,fingers and ass are my favorite subject to write about.


My primary introduction to the wonderful world of online communites came via fanfiction. In fact I met my girlfreind that way, ( I was serching for smutty Darkover fiction and joined an egroup of online Renuciats, thats were we met). My point is I have read a lot of it ( BTW folks that write it, thanks and feel free to send me links as you can never get enough fan smut). It seems to me that you get an equal amount of fingars and oral, though in oral less sillyness happens and you are less likly to end up with two many hands in the pie. ( sorry bout that one couldn't help myself)
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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Karzia » Sat Mar 09, 2002 11:21 pm

Ruth, Are you the same Ruth that ran the old Trek Smut board/website?
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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby willow's girl » Sun Mar 10, 2002 12:45 am

The Fun With Friction series at Extra Flamey is great. You should check it out. It has much more variety that purely willowhand.
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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Karzia » Sun Mar 10, 2002 12:33 pm

quote:
Originally posted by willow's girl:
The Fun With Friction series at Extra Flamey is great. You should check it out. It has much more variety that purely willowhand.

I would totally agree, the ideas of "weepy week and Splunking day" have been added to my households calander.


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Question about the nature of the luuurve in fanfic.

Postby Dr.G » Sun Mar 10, 2002 1:08 pm

Ruth is a woman of many talents, but she was never involved in trek smut. Right Ruth? Unless she has been holding back. Hmmm.
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