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OT - Felicity gone, Angel to go on hiatus

Postby BBOvenGuy » Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:23 pm

This comes to us from Variety:

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Friday February 8 1:56 AM ET
''Felicity'' to end 4-year WB run in May
By Melissa Grego

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - The WB will close its chapter on ``Felicity'' at the end of this season, after opting not to re-up the 4-year-old college drama for another season.

The series, which stars Keri Russell as student Felicity Porter, will return for its spring season on the network March 20 at 9 p.m.. ``Felicity'' will sign off with a two-hour series finale May 22. (The WB has scheduled the show in winter and spring, avoiding repeats, during the last two TV seasons.)

``'Felicity' was one of the shows that helped put us on the map and establish the WB as a place for quality programming,'' said WB entertainment president Jordan Levin. ``It seems fitting to conclude such a coming-of-age story as the characters move on from college.''

The move is not entirely unexpected. The show's ratings had tapered off, and the buzz during the last few months was that it might indeed wrap in May.

``It's a bittersweet time for us on the show,'' said J.J. Abrams, who created ``Felicity'' with fellow executive producer Matt Reeves.

``You think things like, 'If they had promoted us this year, maybe we would have had a better shot.' But at the end of the day, I think that we're all just grateful to have had the chance to work for four years with such incredibly talented people on a show we love,'' Abrams added.

To make room for ``Felicity's'' return to the lineup, original episodes of rookie drama ``Glory Days,'' which currently occupies the Wednesday 9 p.m. time slot, will move to Mondays at 9 starting March 11. ``Angel'' will leave Mondays for five weeks rather than going into repeats.

Reuters/Variety REUTERS


Wow, what a change in Angel's fortunes. A couple of months ago they were planning to run the show twice a week, but the Thursday 8:00 broadcasts were a bust and ended after only two weeks. Now the show's going off the air completely for five weeks? Yipes.

Good thing they've still got the UPN escape clause. Maybe we'll be seeing crossovers again next year after all.

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Postby xita » Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:29 pm

Yes it is very likely On a related note, could it be cancelled this year:

From futon critic

Tuesday, February 5, 2002
WB Preps Fall Schedule: 'Angel,' 'Charmed' Left Out?
By Brian Ford Sullivan

The WB took its first steps toward building a fall schedule yesterday as the network officially ordered 16 scripted pilots (10 comedy, six drama) and a handful of reality pilots for consideration on its fall schedule. WB Entertainment president Jordan Levin announced the network will likely stick with its eight drama, 12 comedy lineup the netlet has used since expanding to a six night schedule. With a large portion of its schedule already renewed (or at least has the option to return in place), the battle for a place on its fall schedule will undoubtedly grow more heated as we get closer to the network's upfront presentation in early May.

What we know for sure:

-- "Smallville," "Reba" and "Gilmore Girls" have all been renewed

-- the network has options to pick up "7th Heaven," "Dawson's Creek," "Charmed" and "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch" for additional seasons

-- "For Your Love," "The Steve Harvey Show" and if you believe current reports "Felicity" will close up shop this season; "Elimidate Deluxe," "Dead Last," "Nikki," "Men, Women and Dogs" have already been axed or had their options expired

-- among returning series only "7th Heaven," "Gilmore Girls," "Dawson's Creek" and "Angel" have posted both gains over their own time slot and season averages from last season

-- the network will use the newly added Sunday, 5:00-7:00 p.m. time slots for encores of its dramas "7th Heaven," "Gilmore Girls" and so on

Among the options being considered according to Levin:

-- a possible move of "Gilmore Girls" or "Smallville" to a different night where they can be paired with more similarly themed dramas: the WB has quite a few "super-hero" projects in the hopper ("Birds of Prey," "The Black Sash," "The Lone Ranger," etc.) that would make good companions for the young Clark Kent series

-- it seems very likely that "7th Heaven" will get a new Monday companion as while "Angel" is posting record highs for the WB in its time slot its lead-in loss from "7th Heaven" could be its undoing (see "Roswell" last season)

-- while less likely, the WB is mulling a complete upheaval on Sunday nights in favor of dramas but with the failure of "Felicity" and "Jack & Jill" on the night two years ago this seems unlikely

-- of the remaining new series out there on the WB, only "The Jamie JFK Experiment" was mentioned as having a shot at returning as fellow freshman series "Glory Days," "Raising Dad," "Maybe It's Me" and "Off Centre" not to mention "Popstars 2" have disappointed executives

-- overall the WB's focus is toward "family and franchise" as they put it, in other words shows like "7th Heaven" and "Smallville"

With these options in mind there's a rocky road ahead for both "Angel" and "Charmed." Consider that if these options come to pass - that being a new companion for "7th Heaven," moving "Gilmore" or "Smallville" to a different night with a new respective drama companion for each, and the four night/eight drama format is preserved - that leaves at least one of these series homeless come the fall:

mondays
8:00 - "7th heaven"
9:00 - (new family drama)

tuesdays
8:00 - "gilmore girls"
9:00 - (new family drama)

wednesdays
8:00 - "dawson's creek"
9:00 - ???

thursdays
8:00 - (new franchise drama)
9:00 - "smallville" (new time slot?)

fridays
8:00 - "sabrina, the teenage witch"
8:30 - (new family comedy)
9:00 - "reba"
9:30 - (new family comedy)

sundays
5:00 - (drama encore)
6:00 - (drama encore)
7:00 - (new young adult comedy or reality program)
7:30 - (new young adult comedy or reality program)
8:00 - "the jamie JFK experiment"
8:30 - (new young adult comedy)
9:00 - (new young adult comedy)
9:30 - (new young adult comedy)

Historically speaking those who have followed the WB know that the network has shown little restraint when it comes to if they think something will work in a new time slot or something new will work better in place of another series (even if it is successful) they can make the move or change and will. While its "Gilmore Girls"/"Smallville" Tuesday experiment brought on a lot of boos (including many from us) they've shown the capacity to surprise us. As for "Angel," UPN still has the contractual obligation to pick up the show for next season should the WB cancel it (unless something has happened we don't know about). In "Charmed's" case the loss of Shannen Doherty may have been too big of a blow to overcome. As always we'll know more when we get closer to May.

You can follow the WB's projects in development in our Showatch section.

monday's overnight ratings

1. "Everybody Loves Raymond" (CBS) - 14.5/20
2. "Becker" (CBS) - 12.0/17
3. "Crossing Jordan" (NBC) - 10.1/15
4. "King of Queens" (CBS) - 9.3/14
5. "Boston Public" (FOX) - 9.2/13
6. "Third Watch" (NBC) - 8.5/12
7. "Yes, Dear" (CBS) - 8.4/12
8. "Fear Factor" (NBC) - 8.0/11
9. "Ally McBeal" (FOX) - 7.9/11
10. "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" (ABC) - 7.4/10
11. "Family Law" (CBS) - 7.3/11
12. "7th Heaven" (WB) - 7.0/10
13. "ABC Monday Night Movie" (ABC) - 6.5/9
14. "Angel" (WB) - 4.0/5
15. "The Hughleys" (UPN) - 3.9/6
16. "One on One" (UPN) - 3.8/5
17. "The Parkers" (UPN) - 3.6/5
17. "Girlfriends" (UPN) - 3.6/5

tomorrow on the futon critic...

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Postby tommo » Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:29 pm

Woah...looks like UPN might be able to snap up Angel after all. I wonder how that would alter the balance of affairs. Hmmm.

Hardly surprising though; IMHO this season of Angel has been a bit pants.

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Postby BBOvenGuy » Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:37 pm

That's too bad about Charmed getting caught in the crossfire. That show has always been shamelessly goofy, but they play for real just often enough to keep my interest. And I don't think they lost anything going from Shannen to Rose this year.

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Postby Under Her Spell » Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:01 pm

For those who don't know, the UPN has a contractual obligation to buy up Angel if the WB drops it, at least for the remainder of the Season. It does annoy me the way American networks don't care about messing around with shows - where I come from shows are never cancelled before the end of a season, except for long-running soaps that don't do well.
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Postby miss_spangles » Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:52 pm

It really would be extremely interesting to see how a move to UPN would impact on storylines on both Angel and Buffy. Especially as they've spent this season painting them as two entirely separate shows. Personally, I'd kind of like for them to be on the same network as I am partial to the odd cross-over. I guess we;ll see.
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Postby Dead Dog » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:03 pm

Bah. There is no patience with American tv programming, only impatience.

Gilmore Girls is secretly the best show on tv, so it's nice it's staying around. I absolutely cannot believe that Smallville survives. I find it sleep inducing, and it insults the intelligence of any comic book fan who knows the Superboy/Superman lore...because they throw out all that lore just so they can make it a teen/family drama. I guess the target market is people who don't know it should be an adventure/action series. (imho)

I also used to watch 7th Heaven but gave it up a few years ago when it lost its spark. It hasn't changed as I saw some of it Monday and even though the kids are all lots older, the writers are still using sibling rivalry and immaturity as plotlines. I guess none of them has learned any life lessons (and I'll let you decide if that means the writers or the characters ).

If Angel moves to UPN alongside Buffy, it creates a bigger possibility matrix for who's doing what with whom.

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Postby Kalita » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:25 pm

quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
Hardly surprising though; IMHO this season of Angel has been a bit pants.

I beg to differ; I've thoroughly enjoyed Angel this year, and its generally upbeat plots have been a good contrast to Buffy's doom and gloom this year.

Of course, it's not like I really care which American network airs it; the Cnanadian station I watch buys it right from Fox, and should continue to as long as it's still made.quote:

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Postby supermus » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:25 pm

Why is it that their seems to be a large consensus among Buffy fans that Smallville is bad. I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes that show. I'm not familiar with Superboy lore, so that might factor into it. But when you have a series that goes on for 50 years, a lot of discrepencies pile up. If you look at Smallville as its own tale, it's easier to enjoy. They do seem to be like referencing Clarks future, like last Teusday when Lana asked him what he wanted to do with his life and he said: "Anything that doesn't involve flying and a suit"

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Postby BBOvenGuy » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:31 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Gilmore Girls is secretly the best show on tv, so it's nice it's staying around. I absolutely cannot believe that Smallville survives.

I actually find Gilmore Girls to be a more entertaining show than Buffy this year - that is to say, I have more fun while I'm watching it. It is nowhere near as involving, though. After I enjoy an episode of Gilmore Girls, I can pretty much forget about the show for the rest of the week, whereas with Buffy I'm forever... well, doing things like posting here about it!

As for Smallville, it didn't really thrill me. And I liked Glory Days even less.

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Postby AutumnT » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:34 pm

I'm with you Bob. I certainly don't fret over whether Rory will choose between Dean or Jess or if Luke and Lorelai will ever get together, but damn it is entertaining. I pity them having to memorize that much dialogue and I hope for a day when it is not on opposite Buffy because having both VCRs in the house going is a pain in the ass...

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Postby Wiccagrrl » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:50 pm

Why do I have this horrible feeling that WB will keep Angel under contract without actually airing it before releasing it for UPN to have? Ok, maybe I'm being paranoid, but I really wish they'd just cancel it already, and hope they don't play a lot of games with it.

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Postby tommo » Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:57 pm

Um...I actually like Smallville. And it's showing on UK tv now, so I introduced my parents to it last weekend. Oddly enough, they actually sat and watched it; it was my mother who called me in from the kitchen to tell me it was on.

Weird.

I think my main gripe with Angel this season is that his growing affections for Cordelia are just icky. I'm not sure in what way, but I object to them, you know? Plus, I can't help feeling that by killing off Darla, the show did itself a disservice. She was a great character, and her and Dru together? Brilliant.

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Postby Wiccagrrl » Fri Feb 08, 2002 5:09 pm

I do have to agree with ya about C/A. It just doesn't feel right. Kinda like hitting on your kid sis, ya know?

My only hope lies in the fact that she seems pretty much oblivious to his feelings. And I just can't it blossoming into a full-fledged love affair. (please, oh please, oh please.)

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Postby Under Her Spell » Fri Feb 08, 2002 5:11 pm

I think Angel has been very messy in S3- they just seem to be always chosing the worst plot directions. I think I prefered it when there wasn't really any discernible plot!

I really dislike the way they just bring back old characters - Darla, Van Helsing. Though it's true I really don't like Julie Benz, so that's probably got something to do with it. Those are the kind of plots that would work on Buffy, but on Angel they just seem, well, daft.

As for crossovers, I think they should either go all out, with crossovers in the main plot, or not at all - I think Season 1 suffered from Buffyitis; that is, whenever Buffy turned up it make the rest of the episodes seems boring in comparison.

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Postby Dazey » Fri Feb 08, 2002 5:53 pm

It's about time they put Felicity to bed. It was only good its first season.

I just really hope they move Gilmore Girls. This have-my-mom-tape-it-and-send-me-the-tape-when-it's-full thing is just not working. I heartily agree with it being the most enjoyable thing on TV...Buffy is, ultimately, the better work of art by far, but it's so damn hard to watch sometimes. Most of the time. But that hour a week I spend in Stars Hollow really makes my shitty life disappear for a bit.

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Postby Kakamabee » Fri Feb 08, 2002 11:19 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Bah. There is no patience with American tv programming, only impatience.

Gilmore Girls is secretly the best show on tv, so it's nice it's staying around. I absolutely cannot believe that Smallville survives. I find it sleep inducing, and it insults the intelligence of any comic book fan who knows the Superboy/Superman lore...because they throw out all that lore just so they can make it a teen/family drama. I guess the target market is people who don't know it should be an adventure/action series. (imho)

I also used to watch 7th Heaven but gave it up a few years ago when it lost its spark. It hasn't changed as I saw some of it Monday and even though the kids are all lots older, the writers are still using sibling rivalry and immaturity as plotlines. I guess none of them has learned any life lessons (and I'll let you decide if that means the writers or the characters ).

If Angel moves to UPN alongside Buffy, it creates a bigger possibility matrix for who's doing what with whom.



I agree w/ u bout the 7th heaven bit. I mean the plot is impossible. I mean theyre in their late 40's with an active sex life, the dad is a pastor and they have so many kids i lost count (horny pastor), Mary saw the light when she was banned from the house to go live with their grandparent ( i mean cmon if their so prefect they couldve kept trying with her), Simon is freshly introduced into puberty and hes been exposed to more sex drugs and alcohol than a 4 dollar ho ( i mean cmon the town looks so perfect they grow up so fast tsk tsk) the middle girl ( i forgot her name bare w/ me) i dunno whats her problem, the little girl ...uhh suzie or whatever, asked her dad about how dogs and cats have sex (sheesh no comment) and then the lil twin boys who look 5 and cant even talk (guess they needed some retards in the family huh). Then theres superman wich i watched till that guy who turned into a bug and wanted to empregnate the other clark's crush then i gave up. What was htat all about. Charmed is preety good being in the whole magik type thing related stuff...u kno . And Angel should move to UPN. I just would really like to kno what happened when Buffy finds out about Angel/Cordelia.

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Postby morgan1707 » Sat Feb 09, 2002 12:17 am

I love Smallville, even my parents like it!! I think it's a great little drama, and definitely has kept my interest this Season. I think Angel has been generally stronger this Season than it was last Season. I'm finding Cordelia to be the main reason I watch the show; I'm fascinated by her evolving from a spoilt brat into a mature young woman. I'm loving the storylines as well this Season. I hope this really doesn't mean the end of the show, although I hope UPN will pick it up if it is dropped. In fact, they have to, don't they?

As for Charmed, I think it's generally much stronger without Shannen Doherty. I love the show dearly, but I love the show more rather than the characters in it. Season 1 to 3 of Charmed were Shannen-centric, and it was only in Season 3 where Phoebe really came into her own. But the night Charmed is on doesn't help; it's up against some real strong competition, but I hope The WB doesn't cancel it. It's a really promising show, and I think Season 4 is the best Season yet.

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Postby Hemiola » Sat Feb 09, 2002 8:46 am

For those interested, the next new "Angel" episode has been announced for FEBRUARY 18 .
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Postby xita » Sat Feb 09, 2002 9:26 am

I was a bit of a charmed fan but honestly I tuned in to see how Rose would do and I haven't watched a single ep since. I think the show did suffer without Shannen Doherty. The show used to be ssecond banana at the WB in ratings and now it just hasn't delivered.
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Postby fell » Sat Feb 09, 2002 9:29 am

As I said in the other (closed) thread, my objection to 7th Heaven, Smallville, Charmed and Dawson's Creek is that these shows seem like they're made for 12 year olds. They're utterly without substance.

Gilmore Girls and Felicity are far more intelligent shows, but I think liking them or not is a personal, rather than objective, matter. It comes down to whether you like the lead actresses. Some people can't stand one or the other of them and so won't like the show no matter what. Ensemble shows like Buffy and Angel don't really have this problem.

It's amazing that they would consider dropping Angel simply because it doesn't hold 7th Heaven viewers. Whose fault is that? The two shows don't just have a different tone; Angel is one of the most intelligent shows on TV, 7th Heaven is one of the dumbest. All of the humor and most of the drama on 7th Heaven is based on the characters acting like potato head putzes. Of course, as we saw with Buffy the WB suits will always blame the show rather than their own stupid decisions. If Angel went to UPN it would be a great thing for both shows.

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Postby Krystin » Sat Feb 09, 2002 10:23 am

quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT:
I'm with you Bob. I certainly don't fret over whether Rory will choose between Dean or Jess or if Luke and Lorelai will ever get together, but damn it is entertaining. I pity them having to memorize that much dialogue and I hope for a day when it is not on opposite Buffy because having both VCRs in the house going is a pain in the ass...


I must share a horrible secret... I tape Buffy and watch Gilmore Girls. I only have 1 VCR, and I want Buffy on tape. In addition, my girlfriend and I have had a standing Gilmore Girls date for the last 1.5 years. When it moved to Tuesday, we decided to continue watching it together(she doesn't like Buffy, but that's her worst flaw).

However, I must agree that while Gilmore Girls is fun, I'm not emotionally involved with what happens on the show. I care if Buffy has sex with Spike. I want Willow and Tara to get back together. I really don't give a care if Rory picks Jess or Dean. But, I've always had this secret hope that there would be a little Rory/Madeline action...
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Postby Zahir » Sat Feb 09, 2002 10:27 am

Personally, I just don't see what's so "icky" about Angel's feelings for Cordy. Lord knows she's attractive enough, and on far more than a physical level (gorgeous tho' she is).

Now I would agree that if they simply fell in love with each other that would be a retred of Buffy/Angel. I also have my doubts about how the dynamic between them would work from a dramtic p.o.v. (at least where they are right now). But that's not what's happening. Angel has found himself having strong feelings for someone who clearly cares for him, but not at all that way. How it will play out is a good question, but the only thing I'm sure of is it won't be exactly like the whole Willow/Xander thing or Spike/Buffy (to name two other unrequited passions in the Buffyverse).

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Postby Thespia » Sat Feb 09, 2002 11:39 am

quote:
Originally posted by tommo:

I think my main gripe with Angel this season is that his growing affections for Cordelia are just icky. I'm not sure in what way, but I object to them, you know? Plus, I can't help feeling that by killing off Darla, the show did itself a disservice. She was a great character, and her and Dru together? Brilliant.


I completely agree on the A/C issue. I just don't see them together. Plus, let's not forget Faith is waiting, right?

But I just couldn't stand Darla. When we were watching and she appeared, my ex-girlfriend and I went, "Oh, no!" Love Dru, though.

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Postby Under Her Spell » Sat Feb 09, 2002 4:39 pm

I don't think Cordy and Angel is implausible, as she is getting progressively more Buffylike by the episode! But it's just so pointless - nothing can happen except for Angel to lose his soul AGAIN. Angel is a eunnuch, and it's better that he behaves like one!

I secretly despise Smallville, Charmed and a certain other show as inferior Buffy clones, but I don't like to say so, because I know many Buffy fans like those shows. So I won't. In the end of the day, no one forces me to watch them, though it does annoy me a bit when I visit yet another Dawnson's Creek/Buffy website! It's like listening to both NIN and Limp Bizkit - you can't, because they just aren't on the same level.

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Postby fell » Sat Feb 09, 2002 5:56 pm

I don't see what's so icky about Angel and Cordy. After all he was with Buffy, though I do agree that it would be a bit of a retread. I don't see Angel pairing up with anyone although I liked the angsty triangle implicit in Fred's unrequited crush on Angel while Wesley was mooning after Fred. As for Fred/Gunn, that's too much of a stretch, like trying to mate a cat with a dog. I always thought Cordy and Gunn would end up together. Way better chemisty.

I am highly dubious about the return of the Groosalug- that guy gives me the creeps. He just looks completely weird to me. Every time he and Cordy kissed last season it made me shudder. Maybe it's my dyke sensibility, but he looks to me like a cartoon of a stereotypical 'hero type' off the cover of a romance novel rather than someone who's actually attractive.

I'm very curious about how others see him- as a hunky hunk o' groovy luv or gross and greasy groosalug?

On another note, I've been thinking about it and I'm sad to see Felicity cancelled. While the show seemed to lose its way a bit after she lost her hair, I felt like it had started to get interesting again. I always thought of it as the thinking person's Dawson's Creek. Keri Russell is a sensitive and affecting actress (and twice as pretty as anyone on DC) and the show was often well enough written to make me really care about what was going on.

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Postby MAJIK » Sat Feb 09, 2002 10:32 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by fell:
[B]As I said in the other (closed) thread, my objection to 7th Heaven, Smallville, Charmed and Dawson's Creek is that these shows seem like they're made for 12 year olds. They're utterly without substance.

As I said in the other (closed) thread, I totally agree, none of them have that Buffy/Angel/Whedon genius, no depth.
On another point I always hoped Cordy and Gunn would get it together, but Cordy and Angel works for me, I guess I just love all that romance!
Its's 5.30am here in the UK I really should be in bed, but I've managed to get Mumps and can I just share with you all that its DAMN PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks I feel better for that.

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Postby Dazey » Sun Feb 10, 2002 3:35 pm

quote:
Originally posted by fell:
Gilmore Girls and Felicity are far more intelligent shows, but I think liking them or not is a personal, rather than objective, matter. It comes down to whether you like the lead actresses.

Actually I disagree with that. I used to watch Felicity, mostly the first season then not so much later on, but I always found Keri Russell somewhat annoying. I liked Amy Jo Johnson because she reminded me of someone I knew and I liked Tangi Miller because well have you seen her? and I liked Scott Foley because he's one of the few boys who could have me at the drop of a hat if he wanted (yeah I'm shallow) and I liked Amanda Foreman and her much-rarer much-bitchier incarnation of Meghan and I liked the storyline and all that outweighed my dislike of KR. So there.

Fortunately it's not an issue with GG because Lauren Graham is rather charming.

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Postby oncemorewithfeeling » Tue Feb 12, 2002 8:17 am

Found this on the BBC
It also specualtes that Angel will be removed from WB network. http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/buffy/news/02021101.shtml
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OT - Felicity gone, Angel to go on hiatus

Postby Cipher » Wed Feb 13, 2002 8:38 pm

I actually like Smallville. It's not in Buffy's class (the only other shows that are, for me, are My So-Called Life and Angel, though there could be others I haven't seen that might also qualify), but it works. It helps that I'm not familiar with Superboy (there was a Superboy series at some point but I didn't watch it, and I never read the comics), so I'm not distracted by it violating Superverse history. I wonder if Smallville would make a better followup to 7th Heaven than Angel does (not quite as dark as Angel?), in terms of keeping more of the audience. Smallville might also make a better lead-in for Angel, though I'm not sure what night would make sense. Charmed/Angel on Thursdays would have made sense, but running the season 2 reruns there was doomed (we've already seen them, and Thursday is currently full of new episodes of several other big shows, so it's not like people are likely to spare the time to catch it unless there's nothing up against it they want to watch); they shouldn't judge its performance in that slot based on that rigged contest. (Not that I want Angel on Thursdays, it's messy enough without the complication of needing to put them on my Buffy tape in case it's a keeper--I only keep certain eps of Angel, originally just the cross-overs and then the Angelus backstory eps but there have been a few exceptions.)

I watch Charmed (even though it's hard with it up against CSI and some NBC sitcoms I watch), but I won't miss it if they cancel it. This season seems a little lost with the cast change and juggling the dynamics though I think they've finally settled Paige into place. I feel about the same about Roswell. I'll still watch them both if they keep going, but I won't feel slighted if they end (though I'm sure a lot of Roswell fans will be upset if it's cancelled...again; I wonder if UPN is looking for another WB cast-off for next season besides Angel ).

I also watch 7th Heaven, but mostly because the girls are cute and there's nothing else on at 8:00 on Mondays that I watch. It does seem like the characters never really learn from one episode to the next and they all (even the adults) make mistakes just to set up the episode's lesson when they really should have already known better. Lucy mistakenly assumes her ex-fiancé wanted to get back together... after having been burned on the very same thing a few weeks back! (granted that was a minor point to this episode, but still... been there, learned that. Of course, not making assumptions about each other and about what is going on is the one lesson they all constantly forget or never bother to learn.)

I don't watch Gilmore Girls, but I caught parts of an episode where they visited a college campus. The entertaining-but-no-lasting-obsession reviews sound consistent with my limited impression of it. I'd probably enjoy it if I had time to watch it, but it's just not Buffy's level of investment.

Cipher
 


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