It was added 24 new steamy Alyson Hannigan pictures at the: http://alyson.actressarchives.com/
by Dead Dog » Fri Aug 31, 2001 11:47 am
-- Nick
by bothered » Fri Aug 31, 2001 12:43 pm
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
that's so not nice...
quote:by xita » Fri Aug 31, 2001 12:53 pm
It isn't very nice when you pay money, search, beg plead for certain magazines, videos, movies, then spend hours scanning, capping, cleaning up then someone just comes takes the pictures and doesn't at least cite the source. Now there's something that's not very nice.
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by Warduke » Fri Aug 31, 2001 1:18 pm
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It is a nice site (those darned pop-ups I can do without) and it's good to have all these pics together, but give credit where credit is due, that should not be so hard. The pics of course are beautiful, but it's Aly, how can they not be?
Thanks Nick for all the wonderful Aly *and* Willow and Tara pics you have given us in the past and hopefully will in the future (subtle hint).
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I'm thinking of starting a web-page myself, with alyson in it, i have a lot of aly pis, but none are scanned by me, at the same time I have no clue who they are from, I just now they probably from one of 4 sites, Is it considered okay to just write: theese pics are from <4 links>, please visit them??
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people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
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Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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IP: LoggedDr.GStrong like an Amazon It is a nice site (those darned pop-ups I can do without) and it's good to have all these pics together, but give credit where credit is due, that should not be so hard. The pics of course are beautiful, but it's Aly, how can they not be?
Thanks Nick for all the wonderful Aly *and* Willow and Tara pics you have given us in the past and hopefully will in the future (subtle hint).
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posted September 01, 2001 04:47 I agree with Xita and Warduke, Nick's words may sound harsh but it's understandable. Taking without asking in most twisted dictionaries is called stealing. I don't know actress archives, but I'll take Nick's word for it and I do know that it has happened to other sites. Some people even lie about it and claim it is their own work. Blergh.It is a nice site (those darned pop-ups I can do without) and it's good to have all these pics together, but give credit where credit is due, that should not be so hard. The pics of course are beautiful, but it's Aly, how can they not be?
Thanks Nick for all the wonderful Aly *and* Willow and Tara pics you have given us in the past and hopefully will in the future (subtle hint).
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I'm thinking of starting a web-page myself, with alyson in it, i have a lot of aly pis, but none are scanned by me, at the same time I have no clue who they are from, I just now they probably from one of 4 sites, Is it considered okay to just write: theese pics are from <4 links>, please visit them??
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people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
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Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I'm thinking of starting a web-page myself, with alyson in it, i have a lot of aly pis, but none are scanned by me, at the same time I have no clue who they are from, I just now they probably from one of 4 sites, Is it considered okay to just write: theese pics are from <4 links>, please visit them??
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people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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quote:
Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
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Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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posted September 01, 2001 08:44 I don't know, I think it is.. and if I were you, I'd put up a notice saying that if the person responsible for the pictures isn't mentioned, they should let you know so you could give them credit. IP: LoggedWiccanBexWillowhand people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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posted September 01, 2001 09:08 yeah... that should be fine, ATWindsor...people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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posted September 01, 2001 10:12quote:
Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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posted September 01, 2001 19:20 my glasses are steaming up...------------------
"The worlds about to be destroyed and i'm stuck in a traffic jam!"
Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
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posted September 01, 2001 20:24 >>I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!<<Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
IP: LoggedCipherBlessed Wannabe Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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posted September 02, 2001 02:48 Gosh, lookit those! ... er, pictures...on the first page; yeah, that'swhatImeant...Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
by Dr.G » Sat Sep 01, 2001 1:47 am
It is a nice site (those darned pop-ups I can do without) and it's good to have all these pics together, but give credit where credit is due, that should not be so hard. The pics of course are beautiful, but it's Aly, how can they not be?
Thanks Nick for all the wonderful Aly *and* Willow and Tara pics you have given us in the past and hopefully will in the future (subtle hint).
by ATWindsor » Sat Sep 01, 2001 4:16 am
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I'm thinking of starting a web-page myself, with alyson in it, i have a lot of aly pis, but none are scanned by me, at the same time I have no clue who they are from, I just now they probably from one of 4 sites, Is it considered okay to just write: theese pics are from <4 links>, please visit them??
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people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
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Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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posted September 01, 2001 08:44 I don't know, I think it is.. and if I were you, I'd put up a notice saying that if the person responsible for the pictures isn't mentioned, they should let you know so you could give them credit. IP: LoggedWiccanBexWillowhand people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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posted September 01, 2001 09:08 yeah... that should be fine, ATWindsor...people should always give credit where it's due... otherwise, it makes people less willing to do the hard work because they know that they're only gonna be ripped off anyways...
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Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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posted September 01, 2001 10:12quote:
Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
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posted September 01, 2001 19:20 my glasses are steaming up...------------------
"The worlds about to be destroyed and i'm stuck in a traffic jam!"
Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
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posted September 01, 2001 20:24 >>I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!<<Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
IP: LoggedCipherBlessed Wannabe Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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posted September 02, 2001 02:48 Gosh, lookit those! ... er, pictures...on the first page; yeah, that'swhatImeant...Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
by Kath » Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:12 am
quote:
Originally posted by Dead Dog:
Hah. Most of the Aly picture scans on that site are lifted from my site and other popular Aly sites that produce original work. Actress Archives just steals from people and doesn't do any work themselves, nor do they give credit. :-P-- Nick
I bet you're fed up with people doing this aren't you Nick!
quote:by Dead Dog » Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:24 pm
Nope. I was more fed up with hotlinkers but I fixed that. People who take content, and then put it on a site that they make money off of will get their own reward someday. What goes around comes around.
-- Nick
by Cipher » Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:48 pm
Alyson rarely ever has a bad picture, and the majority of those (on all seven pages up there) are great. Such a beautiful smile! (I keep wishing our smileys had real pictures of Aly & Amber instead of simple cartoons! Unfortunately at a reasonable size for smileys there probably wouldn't be enough resolution to get a picture to come out well. )
Nice collection, but the way the site pushes pop-ups is really annoying (including a Musketeers ad poping up on top of the pictures, with sound even; and that's even without downloading the players for some other stuff it kept trying to push). If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser you can probably kill the pop-ups.
If they are lifting pictures from other sites without permission or credit, it's especially wrong that they support the site through advertising (rather than doing it out-of-pocket as a fan). However, the site and the picture uploads might be separate; ie. the site sells advertising to pay for the server and all (and presumably make money) while the pictures are uploaded by fans that find them (and possibly lift them without permission or credit). If the site has people specifically looking for already-online pictures there's no excuse for being unable to attribute them to the original site and link to that site from the page for each picture. Even without prior permission, that'd at least be respectful, and cross-promoting the site that did the work (assuming they hadn't lifted it from elsewhere) is a good way to "pay" for using it. (I added sites to my sig on the BronzeShelter; of course I also first asked for and received permission to use a picture of Amber in my avatar.)
I have mixed feelings about copying online pictures. On the one hand, you should get them from the site that's providing them when you want to look at them. On the other hand, you never know when that site is going to go down or take away the pictures you like (limited space, for example), so we should be able to archive them against such a loss. That slightly reaches to "sharing them from our own site" to help those fans who hadn't made such copies, but it's really a stretch to "make money off them", and especially when the originals are still being provided on out-of-pocket sites by true fans.
And just a note: I'm not sure how bothered really meant it, but that could be interpreted as agreement that lifting pictures without permission or credit is "so not nice". Always look for an interpretation with positive intent before assuming a negative intent. If that interpretation is how bothered actually meant it, it would have been more clear to indicate an antecedent. For example, add "of them" to the end (distinguish the intent from "of you", referring to the statements by Dead Dog).
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