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Postby Righteous Babe » Sat Aug 25, 2001 3:48 am

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OMG, that was one of the cutest movies i've ever seen. But I have to say has anyone ever seen Better Than Chocolate?


Yup I have a copy of Better Than Chocolate. I personally love it, even though the transsexual was a little sterotypical, and Kim and Maggie falling in love so fast.

Anyways I personally love it. Plus it's so cool that Karyn Dywer *Maggie* is from Newfoundland which is where I'm from.
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Postby Warduke » Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:17 pm

Len pointed out this nice little pic, enjoy!
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Postby WbBuffyfan00 » Sun Aug 26, 2001 8:04 am

Damn, I love that picture.

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Postby Puff » Sun Aug 26, 2001 8:55 am

Oh great picture thanks Len and Warduke for the link. I thought this movie was great as well.
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Postby Ed Wood » Sun Aug 26, 2001 9:00 am

Now think how great would it look if they did something similliar with Aly and Amber...

BTW: whoa, nice tatoo...

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Postby Roxton » Sun Aug 26, 2001 5:13 pm

Thanks Brian, that's a great picture of Natasha and Clea.
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Postby Katharyn » Sun Aug 26, 2001 11:10 pm

Regretting getting such a conservative newspaper now... we so nearly went to see this in the cinema but were put off by the review it received. Course the newspaper I get (out of family tradition) is so conservative that there was not much chance that a film would get a fair shot for a topic like this.

Must see. There the Kitten board expands my cultural horizons. Good work...

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Postby DirtyCookie » Mon Aug 27, 2001 8:42 am

Ah, I remember this film, first time I went to the cinema meself. I kinda' liked it, despite the fact there were only three people in the theatre. Still, liked it, then again, I would have seen the film purely because of Clea DuVall.

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Postby StraightGuyFriend » Mon Aug 27, 2001 10:27 pm

I missed But I'm a Cheerleader when it was in theaters, but I'd heard good things about it and wanted to see it. I finally found it on HBO recently and was able to tape it. It was great! It's not very serious in tone (though the development of their relationship was not at all silly and was quite touching; you root for them to be happy together!), but the underlying intent is serious (aside from the intent to also be funny), and it makes excellent social commentary on the absurdity of stereotypes and of thinking sexual orientation is something you can just "change".

The relationship between Natasha and Clea (I forget the character names; ack!)--while not quite as beautiful as our favorite witchy pair--was really enjoyable to see develop. At first Clea comes off rather mean and I didn't particularly like her, but then as the story progresses we come to understand her better and long before the end I was rooting for those two to have a happy ending together. Of course, it couldn't be that simple and the bumps along the way were touching, too (in a sad way).

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Originally posted by BabyWillow81:
OMG, that was one of the cutest movies i've ever seen. But I have to say has anyone ever seen Better Than Chocolate?

I've only caught parts of it (on HBO), and I've been afraid to seek out and sit through all of it. Sometime I'll have to, though, because it looks interesting, especially the couple that gets kicked out of the coffee shop (near the beginning?).

And while we're bringing up movies, how about If These Walls Could Talk 2 (produced by HBO, so those without HBO might not have seen it; if it's available on tape/DVD I recommend you buy or rent it!). My favorite segment was the middle one (of course) with Michelle Williams and Chloe Sevengy (sp?) (again forgetting character names!) as college-age women completely comfortable with their sexuality (but in different ways) discovering a mutual attraction of which Michelle's three housemates/friends--all lesbians--(including Natasha Leonne (sp?)) disapprove. Though done entirely seriously, it had some of the same themes as the Natasha/Clea relationship development in Cheerleader.

The first segment, with an elderly woman whose life-partner dies unexpectedly and without a will (back in the 50's?), makes me too upset because it's just so frustrating for her; no one understood back then and the way inheritance laws are structured assumes life-partners are straight, married couples. It says a lot to me about the absurdity of denying same-sex marriages. The third segment, with Sharon Stone and Ellen Degeneres (sp?) trying to have a child with a sperm donor, was fun but had less important social content (though there's some, and it shows how far things have come from the first segment).quote:

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Postby Caity » Tue Aug 28, 2001 5:42 am

Ohhhhhhhhh........... NIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice picture. Thanks.

OK. I saw this flick before it came out over here, in like October last year, at a G & L film festival. It was a FANTASTIC film!! I can't WAIT to get it out on video and am doing so this weekend. It's been out here in Aust. for a good month now, and I just can't wait to see it again!! Whether it was the movie or the audience, but I hadn't laughed so hard in such a long time - so, I'm waiting to see if the laughing can be duplicated. I reckon it will.

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Postby Annie » Tue Aug 28, 2001 6:04 am

I'm dying to see Cheerleader. I've been a huge Clea fan ever since The Faculty and Natasha Lyonne just kicks ass. Has everyone here seen The Slums of Beverly Hills? It's so hilarious. And there's a teeny Mena Suvari part, so yay for that

But anyway, since I work in a video store, I obviously rent for free. But, I work in a shitty video store, which means we don't have But I'm a Cheerleader. So shit! I'm going to have to actually pay for it, and I haven't been able to find it anywhere around here.

And yup, I noticed the W/T spit string about the third or fourth time I watched The Body. Extremely delicious...[drool]

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Postby Katharyn » Tue Aug 28, 2001 12:08 pm

We just got ...Cheerleader on DVD. so we're off to watch it. Whoever said that boards like this can't act as advertising? *LOL* Will report back tomorrow with my humble opinion on this matter... just had to post another reply to keep the thread with such a great pic up the board where people will see it!

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Postby Tree » Tue Aug 28, 2001 2:44 pm

That aforementioned cover pic is also accompanied by a really great, very informative feature article on the two actresses as well as the movie. Plus, you've gotta love those little quips Natasha Lyonne injects into interviews; she's absolutely hysterical. Has anyone ever read the article? I have to admit I was kinda proud of myself when I bought my one and only issue of Out Magazine...although my brother raised an eyebrow when he found it...
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Postby stacey_bourgeois » Tue Aug 28, 2001 3:32 pm

I love But I'm a Cheerleader and I keep having people over to watch it. My little 14 year old sister loves it too. You have to check out the True Directions website too. It's funny. You know, my friend created a soundtrack for it (gathered all of the songs and some photos, the press release and a trailer) and offers it at cost on her website:
http://www.geocities.com/devisquared

It's a really fun soundtrack to listen to. I listen to it waaay too much in my car.

As for Better Than Chocolate, I bought it for $5 from Blockbuster. It's not bad. If I were to pick a better Canadian lesbian film, I'd go with Lost and Delirious.

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Postby Zahir » Tue Aug 28, 2001 5:07 pm

Okay, for the record...

But I'm A Cheerleader is a really nice and touching story that gets me grinning.
Better Than Chocolate was odd in that after the opening dance number I lost nearly all interest in the lead character. Instead I spent it rooting for her mother, her brother, and for the transexual and the store manager to get together.
Its In The Water was, imo, dreadful. Nothing but stereotypes (we know she's gay because she plays golf wink wink nudge nudge say no more) and a predictable story.
Bar Girls was fun.
The Absolutely True Adventures... made me laugh and made me cry, and then made me think. Kudos.
Desert Hearts is just too hot for words. And extremely well-acted.
Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit is, quite simply, a masterpiece. See it if you possibly can.
Vera was brilliant and heart-wrenching.
The Berlin Affair is a genuinely erotic film that leaves you genuinely disturbed (the way real people do sometimes).
Bound was superior in just about every way. Of course, if you don't like crime dramas you're not gonna like this one.
Clare de Lune ultimately didn't work for me. Just too self-concious, maybe.

Wow. I've seen a lot of lesbian flicks!

Okay, unclicking soapbox icon now...

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Postby Tree » Tue Aug 28, 2001 9:03 pm

Here's the feature article that accompanied the Out Magazine cover pic of Natasha and Clea. They were promoting But I'm a Cheerleader with Jamie Babbit. (There's even a very, very brief Buffy reference.)

The New Girls Of Summer
By Ted Gideonse

As storylines involving gay teenagers on TV and in the movies have exploded, more and more of the hottest young actors - whatever their orientation - are playing queer characters. Two of the most visible of these performers, Natasha Lyonne and Clea DuVall, star as adolescent lesbians in this month's 'But I'm a Cheerleader,' a screen satire about misguided parents, reparative therapy, and girls (and guys) secretly aching to get it on.

In the real world, Natasha Lyonne and Clea DuVall are just very good friends. But on celluloid, in the new satire about reparative therapy, But I'm a Cheerleader, they're so much more: lovers, conspirators, confused baby dykes who come of age. A surreal comedy about the ex-gay movement, gender roles, and homo stereotypes, Cheerleader is also a romance about two teenage girls. And it's just the latest eruption of the gay teen wildfire, stoked by queer characters on the WB's Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer and now spreading to a movie theater near you.

"This is my third one!" Lyonne cheerfully brags. In addition to her famous roles in Slums of Beverly Hills and Everyone Says I Love You - not to mention American Pie - she played one of the radical lesbian students in HBO's If These Walls Could Talk 2 and kissed Natasha Gregson Wagner in the straight-to-video lesbian-bloodsucker film Modern Vampires. DuVall hasn't done a gay-themed feature before, but it seems clear that, if given time, her scene-stealing tomboy character in the 1999 hit teen horror film The Faculty would come out as a hipster lesbian with gobs of attitude. She's good at goth chicks; she played one in another teensploitation hit, She's All That, as well as in guest roles on Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Popular. Not coincidentally, Jamie Babbit, the director of Cheerleader, is also a director and producer of the WB's Popular, and the film has the same fantastic, technicolor lunacy as the TV show - which, also not coincidentally, is one of the gayest on TV.

For many years, the only place you could find images of gay teenagers was in illegal porn (or, subliminally, in high-toned fashion ads). But with the advent of high school gay-straight alliances in the late 1980s, queer adolescents became a hot-button political issue. With politics comes culture, and vice versa: Gregg Araki's little-seen, ultra-low-budget Totally F*cked Up, about queer teens, was released in 1993. In 1994, ABC ran My So-Called Life, a series notable for introducing the world to Claire Danes, but also the first network television show to have a regular character who was both gay and a teenager - Rickie, played by Wilson Cruz. Sadly, it was canceled after 19 episodes. In 1995 Maria Maggenti gave us The Incredibly True Adventures of Two Girls in Love, another below-the-radar indie release.

But after Ellen came out and got kicked off TV, the world changed. In 1998 Dawson's Creek, one of the highest-rated TV shows among teenagers, added to its regulars Jack (Kerr Smith), who later came out and then joined the football team; on this year's season finale, he had his - and network TV's - first romantic man-on-man kiss. This spring, in HBO's If These Walls Could Talk 2, Dawson's Creek's Michelle Williams fell in love with Chloe Sevigny. And Buffy the Vampire Slayer's best friend, Willow (Alyson Hannigan), fell for another woman, a sensitive Wiccan. Then there's the WB freshman show Popular, where the gay themes, plots, and subplots are so pervasive you've got to wonder who it's really being written for - suburban teenagers or the subscribers of this magazine.

"On Popular, the creators of the show are gay and a lot of the writers are gay," says Babbit. "So they're interested in characters on TV who represent themselves. But we've had the network complain about the smallest things; you just have to be really persistent." Bizarrely, when she decided she wanted to do Cheerleader, all she and her producer needed to get funding was a one-sentence pitch; Two high-school girls fall in love at a reparative therapy camp. Considering how hard it is to make a gay film, Babbit says, "We were really lucky."

Then, when the cast signed, Babbit was blessed again: besides Lyonne as the clueless cheerleader and DuVall as the privileged but streetwise dyke, Cathy Moriarty plays the camp founder, an out-of-drag RuPaul is her assistant, Richard Moll is an ex-ex-gay, and Mink Stole and Bud Cort are Lyonne's loony-tune religious parents. ("If I have to play a lesbian cheerleader, Mink Stole and Bud Cort have to be my parents," Lyonne says.) There are cameos by Michelle Williams and Julie Delpy. With such a cast, Babbit was able to nearly triple her budget to $1.3 million. The actor's, however, continued to work for scale with most of Babbit's budget going into the Fauvist art direction. With polyester and plastic costumes and intense and unnatural colors, Babbit shows how false the camp's goals are - as any movie with RuPaul chopping wood in man's clothes is bound to be.

Yes, the film is very funny, but it's also high-concept and distinctly political. "I would hope for any reaction as long as it's strong," says the screenwriter, Brian Wayne Peterson, who witnessed reparative therapy firsthand when he worked as an intern in a prison clinic for sex offenders. "I want people on the right to get mad about it and I want gay people to get angry, too." People got angry when they were making the movie in Palmdale, Calif. The locals got confused and thought the movie was "Butt I'm a Cheerleader", a porn film. The local minister lived across the street from the purple Victorian house where the campy camp was created, and he wouldn't let Babbit film on his lawn. "I told the crew, 'Please don't tell anyone what the movie's about,'" says Babbit.

"From the screenings we've had...yeah, some people hate it and are really offended by it," says DuVall, sitting in the sunny bar at New York's SoHo Grand Hotel. She's wearing a jean jacket buttoned all the way up, and she's dyed her hair blond. "Some people can be very weird about these issues, but I think it will speak to people who have any kind of a sense of humor. It's a special movie, and I think it's very well done."

Demure, bangs in her eyes, DuVall doesn't seem to have the sharpest posture. She's a bit shy. Just as Lyonne is prone to say anything, DuVall is earnest and thoughtful, and she's definately mature for her age, which is 22 "and a half." She has several tattoos.

DuVall chain-smokes Lucky Strikes. It's the sort of habit that isn't surprising for a woman who's lived on her own since she was 16. Her parents were divorced when she was 12, and when her mother remarried, DuVall didn't feel that she fit into the new family. So she dropped out of school and got her own apartment. She decided she would go back to class only is she was admitted into Los Angeles's School for the Performing Arts. She got in, but her academic career didn't go all that well. "My senior year I was basically supporting myself, so it was like, 'Do you want to eat and pay the rent, or do you want to go to school?' I wanted to eat and pay the rent. That was more of a priority to me than passing a biology test." She worked at the take-out counter of an Italian restaurant and skipped a lot of classes. That's why, despite her obvious talent, the school didn't cast her in any shows.

"They didn't like me," she says sadly. She can't stand it when people don't like her. "She creates comfort by being friends with everyone on the set," says Babbit, who is one of DuVall's best friends and has also directed her on Popular and in a short film shown at Sundance. "She's a total caretaker, which is such a weird quality for an actor to have. She's getting me coffee, getting the key grip coffee, getting the gaffer coffee, making sure everything's OK. She's a joy to have on the set. Everyone loves her. But even though she's not asking for it, she needs to be taken care of."

Learning of her family history, it would be easy to assume that DuVall became an actress because she needs to be loved, to get the attention. But who doesn't? A better explanation might be simply that she loves to perform and that she loves movies. An only child, she spent a lot of her younger years by herself watching TV. She memorized scenes, which she would perform for her parents. She could recite entire sections of The Empire Strikes Back, Mr. Mom, Annie, and The Jerk. When she got older, she became more of a cinephile, watching movies, she says, that "have made me reevaluate myself." One sample: After seeing Gas Food Lodging, says DuVall, she and her mother burst into tears and had an intense conversation about their problems. They have a great relationship now, she adds.

On her own for much longer than a typical 22-year-old, DuVall is a self-created, fiercely private woman. After she graduated and went into the biz, she was smart about her career. She was instantly successful, not waiting long to get good roles: First, shorts and extreme indies were followed by bit parts in teen comedies; her break-out performance as Stokely in The Faculty helped her land Girl, Interrupted with Winona Ryder and Angelina Jolie. But since making Cheerleader a year and a half ago, DuVall has gone through "personal changes." "I'm a lot more grounded now, a lot more settled in my skin," she says. "I think Natasha's the same way. She turned into such an amazing person. I'm so excited for her."

If it is true, as psychologists say, that some of the most perfect friendships and relationships are between the introvert and the extrovert, then Lyonne and DuVall's is a textbook case. DuVall adores and takes care of Lyonne, who explodes and shocks - and worries that DuVall thinks she isn't cool enough. "Clea's so cool it's, like, disgusting," says Lyonne about DuVall, beginning one of the riotous riffs that she weaves into her conversations. At a cafe across the street from her home near New York City's Gramercy Park, the 21-year-old is wearing a buttoned-up jean jacket virtually identical to the one DuVall wore two days earlier. "I'm a smoker and Clea's a smoker, but she does it a lot better than I do. Whenever I'm around her, I want her to think I'm cool too, because she's so darn cool. And then I, like, trip or something. I'll just be getting the knack of it, you know, and she'll just be thinking I'm cool. I'll be sitting there and I'll be slick and shy too, and I'll fall down or I'll drop my cup. Or, Oh, shhhhhit, I didn't inhale! God! Why do I have to be such a dork? I want to be cool. I want to be like Clea." (Lyonne seems to have an insatiable craving for cool: Rumor has it that she's been dating Eddie Furlong, one of Hollywood's hippest young dudes - and it's a relationship the actress hesitates to discuss.)

While DuVall grew up in L.A., Lyonne is a New Yorker through and through, with the accent, the jaded, streetwise attitude, and the crass irreverence that have made her the first to call if casting directors need a wise and funny daughter or older sister. She seems to have been around the block a few times, probably having given a cabbie or two the finger along the way. She'll say anything. For example, the following comes out after she says she's annoyed that some people in the media think Brandon Teena was a hermaphrodite: "That's what I am," Natasha Lyonne deadpans. "Oops."

"You weren't supposed to tell anyone."

"Oops...I did it again," she says. Then she realizes she's just quoted Britney Spears' latest hit. "I guess that's what she meant! I've been trying to figure that out for the last week. That's what she means! Oops...she did it again: She came out as a hermaphrodite. They told me not to tell anyone! Damn!"

Like DuVall, Lyonne has been on her own since she was 16, but for a different reason (although she too is a child of divorce). When Woody Allen cast her in Everyone Says I Love You, her mother had just moved to Miami, so Lyonne lived with a guardian in New York. Both DuVall and Lyonne have been acting since they were kids, but while DuVall was in her living room doing scenes from The Jerk, Lyonne was playing Meryl Streep's niece in Heartburn. Nevertheless, their shared agent kept insisting they would get along, and when the two met they became fast friends. "Yeah, we met and then she came back to my place," Lyonne says, almost winking, half-chuckling. She was riding in DuVall's car when she first saw the script for Cheerleader.

She plays against type in Cheerleader, straightening and lightening her frizzy hair, losing her intelligence, and doing a perfectly silly parody of an American cheerleader. Though she's more politically aware than most actors her age - and aware of how political this film is - underneath all the jokes there's something about her playing a ditsy blonde that makes you wonder how much she just wanted to surprise everyone. And it's impossible to believe this: "I don't need to shock people anymore." She wanted to do tampon commercials in Japan in which she would say, "Have you ever bled down your leg? Try Tampax." And while doing press for Everyone Says I Love You in People, she talked about setting fire to the Jewish private school she attended - and hated - in New York. "I guess you're not supposed to talk about burning down Jewish schools," she says, smirking.

"She's a rebel," says Babbit. "Her acting was born out of being an outsider. She has to create a rebellion, and then she gives an amazing performance." Like DuVall, Lyonne is intensely serious about her craft. She works in indies because the roles are better. She thinks about what she's doing, asks questions constantly. At one point, she asked Babbit why she was using a black-and-white monitor. When the answer was that it was too expensive to use color, Lyonne paid for a color monitor herself. And when asked if she wanted to direct, Lyonne said no - she respects the craft too much. She needs to learn more first.

Nevertheless, she's pretty savvy already. Especially about publicity. It would be fun to do the cover of Seventeen for this movie," she says, getting political, echoing the desire of every writer and director of a gay-themed film or TV series. "If kids in high school would see this movie and feel comfortable about falling for a person, and it's irrelevant what sex they're falling for, that would be the ultimate response to the movie. I also wanted Clea and me to get married to promote the movie. But she wouldn't do it. I'm not her type. She likes them taller and hairier. God, what am I saying? She's going to kill me."

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Postby Cipher » Tue Aug 28, 2001 9:03 pm

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Originally posted by stacey_bourgeois:
As for Better Than Chocolate, I bought it for $5 from Blockbuster. It's not bad. If I were to pick a better Canadian lesbian film, I'd go with Lost and Delirious.

Oh, I have so been wanting to see Lost and Delirious! Ebert and/or Roper said good things about it and it sounds like a very interesting love story.

I'm not expecting it to show in theaters here, though; we rarely get anything but the mainstream movies except an occasional gem like The Dish (a while back (OT)), or Tortilla Soup (which is an excelent movie, BTW, though not related to the "lesbian film" topic). I'm not expecting Amber's movie to show up either, so I'm hoping we can buy it from their web site at some point.

Is Lost and Delirious available for direct VHS purchase from their web site (maybe not if it's still running in theaters)? I'm about to go check out the site, so I guess I'll find out unless the info is buried somewhere. Thanks for the link, stacey_bourgeois!

Wow, tree, thanks for posting that article! So much interesting detail about two actresses I've seen in various things but didn't know much about! I'd forgotten about Clea as the Invisible Girl from the first season (didn't know her then, and only really learned her name from this thread to the point I might now remember her by name). Now if I could just remember the proper spelling of Lyonne and Sevigny...

Does Out Magazine have a web site? Do they have articles online? If they have articles like that, I have to check it out further, but I don't know about buying an issue just yet....

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Postby Katharyn » Tue Aug 28, 2001 9:59 pm

Yeah, thanks for posting the article.

Watched this last night and I was very impressed. This was a very good film that with 1/2 hour more could have been a great one.
On the one hand I can see exactly what the director is trying to do, move things along, work with the stereotypes to break them down. It surreal and zany and slightly scary to think that these places (in different forms) actually exist.
On the other hand though I couldn't help wishing for that extra time to flesh out the characters a little. I know that the whole point was to work with the steorotypes but I would just have liked to have dug a little deeper and more screentime for Rupaul.
It is very funny though and I would recommend it to anyone... though for those who care the DVD special features are not very special at all. Not even informative or funny.

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Postby Dazey » Wed Aug 29, 2001 1:14 am

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Has everyone here seen The Slums of Beverly Hills? It's so hilarious.

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Postby Righteous Babe » Wed Aug 29, 2001 4:03 am

I loved that Out Magazine Article.

I love Better Than Chocolate alot because it has many characters and a few storylines which I like. I love Kim and Maggie just as much as I love everyone else from the mother to the transsexual.

It's sad though that Natasha just got arrested for DUI. There is an article about it on Eonline.com

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Postby Ed Wood » Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:10 am

Hey, I've just seen "Can't Hardly Wait" on tape. Both Amber and Clea have cameos in the movie. Amber's is 20 minutes 15 seconds in the movies and Clea's is exactly 22 minutes in. Also, if anyone's intersted, Jamie Presley has a supporting role and Selma Blair also has a Cameo! Oh yeah, and Seth Green's got the male lead
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Postby stacey_bourgeois » Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:49 am

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Oh, I have so been wanting to see Lost and Delirious! Ebert and/or Roper said good things about it and it sounds like a very interesting love story.


It was out in theatres at the end of July I believe. I don't know if it's still playing here though. I live in Toronto and the movie came out to a variety of theatres, not just the usual indie flick theatres. Maybe because the film is Canadian... Anyway, I enjoyed it and so did all of my friends. It's a darker film which just goes along with most independent films. I would definitely place it above some of the lesbian films that have been mentioned.

As for Claire of the Moon. Uck! That film was horrible! That has to be my least favourite lesbian film ever! The acting reminded me of the quality you get in soft porn or something. Not that I watch soft pron. *ahem* Okay, so they show soft porn late at night on Fridays on a local station here and my friends and I enjoy picking them apart. I watch it merely for that purpose. Honest.

Okay, I better go now...

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Postby Cipher » Sun Sep 02, 2001 2:06 am

Well, the Lost and Delirious web site was not very useful. The only content on that main page requires a plug-in. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing (by not installing the plug-in)? Does it link to any other pages on that site (or elsewhere) with content that doesn't require a plug-in?

Looking at the HTML itself I found a link to the studio (Lions Gate Films) which has some information about the movie (still showing in theaters, just not near me ), so it wasn't a total waste.

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Postby Kabuki » Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:23 pm

I finally got to see But I'm a Cheerleader today, and I really like it. It's so cute! Especially the ending! Not only was RuPaul in it, "Bull" from Night Court was one of the ex-ex-gays. Cool. I actually liked the relationshippy bits more than the comedy, but both were nice. I'm so glad I read this board, since I might not have checked out the movie if I hadn't heard so many nice things about it here.
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Postby Ed Wood » Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:37 pm

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Originally posted by Cipher:
Well, the Lost and Delirious web site was not very useful. The only content on that main page requires a plug-in. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing (by not installing the plug-in)? Does it link to any other pages on that site (or elsewhere) with content that doesn't require a plug-in?

Looking at the HTML itself I found a link to the studio (Lions Gate Films) which has some information about the movie (still showing in theaters, just not near me ), so it wasn't a total waste.


The page is pretty small. It has only the general info (the list of cast and crew and short sypnosis, messageboard (which does not require a plug in, you can find it here: http://www.lostanddeliriousthemovie.com ... standd.cgi ), some pics ( 19 of them, just copy and past this link: http://www.lostanddeliriousthemovie.com ... lost01.jpg , and them change the number that goes after lost for each pic; lost01, lost02, lost03 etc.). Also there's a trailer either in windows media or real player format but I can't get the link (don't know how to, sorry).

BTW- just brought the Matrix on DVD today! (you're a Matrix fan, right?) It rocks!

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OT - But I'm a Cheerleader

Postby Caity » Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:06 am

Just a new note - I got out But I'm A Cheerleader on Friday, like I said I would, and laughed so hard I split my stitches!! Literally!!! *ahem* I've now dubbed it.. *wicked evil grin*

Oh!! And I Heard WONDERFULLY things about Bring It On on DVD and all the extra's that it has on it - does But I'm A Cheerleader have many extras on the DVD???

Caity

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OT - But I'm a Cheerleader

Postby Righteous Babe » Tue Sep 04, 2001 6:53 am

quote:
Originally posted by Caity:
Just a new note - I got out But I'm A Cheerleader on Friday, like I said I would, and laughed so hard I split my stitches!! Literally!!! *ahem* I've now dubbed it.. *wicked evil grin*

Oh!! And I Heard WONDERFULLY things about Bring It On on DVD and all the extra's that it has on it - does But I'm A Cheerleader have many extras on the DVD???

Caity


I love the Bring It On DVD, it's my fav. dvd tied with Save the Last Dance which I love.

I especially love the Makeup/Wardrobe test that Eliza and Kirsten does for the DVD. It's so cool.

On Amazon.Com this is what it says about But I'm a Cheerleader:

• Region 1 encoding (US and Canada only)
• Color, Closed-captioned, Dolby, Widescreen
• Widescreen anamorphic format

Don't look like it as anything, I think because it isn't some mainstream movie but I buy the DVD anyways because of the quality.
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Righteous Babe
 


OT - But I'm a Cheerleader

Postby Caity » Tue Sep 04, 2001 7:02 am

quote:
Originally posted by Righteous Babe:
I love the Bring It On DVD, it's my fav. dvd tied with Save the Last Dance which I love.

I especially love the Makeup/Wardrobe test that Eliza and Kirsten does for the DVD. It's so cool.

On Amazon.Com this is what it says about But I'm a Cheerleader:

• Region 1 encoding (US and Canada only)
• Color, Closed-captioned, Dolby, Widescreen
• Widescreen anamorphic format

Don't look like it as anything, I think because it isn't some mainstream movie but I buy the DVD anyways because of the quality.


Awww... nuts. Not anything special?? Bummer... Save the Last Dance is such a feel good movie.. *sappy sigh* Then again, Bring it On is such a GREAT movie!!!

*back into Eliza-World....*quote:

Caity
 


OT - But I'm a Cheerleader

Postby Righteous Babe » Tue Sep 04, 2001 7:04 am

quote:
Originally posted by Caity:
Awww... nuts. Not anything special?? Bummer... Save the Last Dance is such a feel good movie.. *sappy sigh* Then again, Bring it On is such a GREAT movie!!!

*back into Eliza-World....*


I cry everytime I watch Save the Last Dance. I'm WAY to emotional. I own Bring It On and Save the Last Dance, I watch one of them each week. Eliza oh my...Soul Survivors come out in theatres this weekend! Yay! Eliza is gonna be such a huge star, she is just so yummy.

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Righteous Babe
 


OT - But I'm a Cheerleader

Postby Katharyn » Tue Sep 04, 2001 10:58 am

Caity,

But I'm a Cheerleader extra's on DVD are very poor. The film is great and the aniuimated menu looks good, but the only extra's are the trailer (which is hardly an extra these days) and a 10 minutes splice of a load of behind the scenes stuff. It isn;t funny and it isn;t very informative at all and it looks amateurish and like a second thought - but it you want a great film with DVD quality buy it anyway.

Katharyn

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