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Registered: Feb 2001 | posted February 05, 2001 09:15
auuggghhh, here is a thought regarding JW's comment on bringing willow center stage in these next few eppies (do I need spoiler space for this?) just in case 4
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in restless tara says something to the effect of "they are going to find out about you, I can't help you if they do" and the obvious conclusion is that she is talking about willows family and friends finding out she is gay, BUT supposing she is talking about the knights and glory finding out willow is the witch/power who has the ability to teleport glory else where.
glory will either want to kill her or use her to get to another dimension and the knights wouldn't be too keen on willow helping to protect the key I see willow/witch craft coming front and center as 'the power' to defeat the enemy has it did with adam in last years closer
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted February 05, 2001 09:29
I do like the idea of Willow being center stage,  especially if it involves Tara, spells and kicking Glory's butt (although a few W/T romantic scenes would be nice).Bob, the "The Witchy Willow Hour" sounds great, I'd watch it. Now if only we could convince Joss. [This message has been edited by Roxton (edited February 05, 2001).] IP: Logged |
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Can't handle Alyson crying.Never have,never will.She's astonishing.
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted February 05, 2001 10:26
Center stage both scares me and fascinates me. It is obviously her magick. They have been alluding to this since Buffy vs. Dracuala. And you are right, Tara will not be able to help her. Oh  I hope things aren't too angsty for Willow and for w/t.IP: Logged |
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Registered: Feb 2001 | posted February 05, 2001 11:00
as far as angst factor goes, tara knows willow has great power like her mom did. the past tense tara uses makes me think her mom is dead which has to have been a great loss for tara. so I'm thinking tara is going to be fighting some serious fears of her own if she stands a chance of losing willow too. IP: Logged |
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Registered: Feb 2001 | posted February 05, 2001 17:52
here is a thought
joss just signed a 20 mil contract to develop new shows and he is expected to have one coming out this fall
if he thinks AH should have her own show will he develop one for her?
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted February 05, 2001 18:37
Joss would never pull a star from one show to be on another (unless it was a spinoff, like Angel). He might very well create a series for Aly after Buffy is over, but not before.One wonders whether he might set up something for Amber as well - maybe something including a behind-the-scenes role, since she appears to have a talent for that too.
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Registered: Nov 2000 | posted February 05, 2001 20:50
any willow is good willow and more willow is even better, specially cuz it means more tara.
joss has made a number of very positive comments about ally, so i wouldn't be surprised to see him develop something for her post-buffy Which, by the by, could go 8 seasons or more given joss' recent contract w/fox.
ally is to thank for a lot of what's so great about btvs, given that no one has had more screen time than her except smg, no?IP: Logged |
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Registered: Nov 2000 | posted February 06, 2001 05:05
Aly herself said in a mag interview: quote:
"Somebody yesterday was saying to me that Willow really should have a spin-off, because then I would be... let's see... a vampire-slaying, computer-loving lesbian witch. And, you know, well, there's a series."
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could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted February 06, 2001 12:19
I've always thought that the Willow dream comments in Restless "they'll find out about you" had nothing to do with being gay and all to do with, what I saw as significant foreshadowing in "Something Blue".
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so in something blue the underworld turns out to be watching willow 'whose majic is strong' and offer her anya's old demon position right? so are you thinking that willow's secret is her taking an underworld assignment of some sort? that would be hard for me to accept since she turned them down already IP: Logged |
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted February 06, 2001 13:34
I thought the "they'll find out about you" bit in Restless referred to the notion that despite Willow's new look, new witchy abilities, new sexual awareness, new relationship, etc., she was still the same mousy nerd-girl underneath. It came to pass within the dream itself, when Buffy ripped off Willow's "costume."Whether it plays out at some point in "real life" remains to be seen... IP: Logged |
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spoilers for restless and a few previous eppies in discussion below4
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when re-viewing restless I was struck by the imagery in willows dream, like the cat, who I think represents the spirit of the first slayer (as a cat was used previously in the ep where buffy and faith are out cold in the hospital after buffy stabbed faith and angel drank buffy. buffy "chats" with faith in her dream, the first thing buffy see's is a cat on faiths bed and how she will take care of herself and faith knows of the key and speaks of little miss muffet counting down from ...)
I had the feeling in restless that tara was often speaking in terms of "the key" in both willows and buffys dreams ex. 'I wonder why she hasn't let us know her name yet' 'the plays already begun' and then later in buffys dream 'be back before dawn' so by the time tara is in buffy's dream tara knows the keys name so I can't help but think that tara "saw" the position willow would play in the protection of the key and knows she won't be able to protect her from danger with magic IP: Logged |
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could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted February 05, 2001 09:15
auuggghhh, here is a thought regarding JW's comment on bringing willow center stage in these next few eppies (do I need spoiler space for this?) just in case
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in restless tara says something to the effect of "they are going to find out about you, I can't help you if they do" and the obvious conclusion is that she is talking about willows family and friends finding out she is gay, BUT supposing she is talking about the knights and glory finding out willow is the witch/power who has the ability to teleport glory else where.
glory will either want to kill her or use her to get to another dimension
and the knights wouldn't be too keen on willow helping to protect the key
I see willow/witch craft coming front and center as 'the power' to defeat the enemy has it did with adam in last years closer
but this time the enemy knows whats coming thus will be trying to supercede the witchs
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posted February 05, 2001 09:15 auuggghhh, here is a thought regarding JW's comment on bringing willow center stage in these next few eppies (do I need spoiler space for this?) just in case
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in restless tara says something to the effect of "they are going to find out about you, I can't help you if they do" and the obvious conclusion is that she is talking about willows family and friends finding out she is gay, BUT supposing she is talking about the knights and glory finding out willow is the witch/power who has the ability to teleport glory else where.
glory will either want to kill her or use her to get to another dimension
and the knights wouldn't be too keen on willow helping to protect the key
I see willow/witch craft coming front and center as 'the power' to defeat the enemy has it did with adam in last years closer
but this time the enemy knows whats coming thus will be trying to supercede the witchs
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 05, 2001 09:29
I do like the idea of Willow being center stage, especially if it involves Tara, spells and kicking Glory's butt (although a few W/T romantic scenes would be nice).Bob, the "The Witchy Willow Hour" sounds great, I'd watch it. Now if only we could convince Joss.
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posted February 05, 2001 09:29 I do like the idea of Willow being center stage, especially if it involves Tara, spells and kicking Glory's butt (although a few W/T romantic scenes would be nice).Bob, the "The Witchy Willow Hour" sounds great, I'd watch it. Now if only we could convince Joss.
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Can't handle Alyson crying.Never have,never will.She's astonishing.
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posted February 05, 2001 10:21 Can't handle Alyson crying.Never have,never will.She's astonishing.
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Fantastico posted February 05, 2001 10:26
Center stage both scares me and fascinates me. It is obviously her magick. They have been alluding to this since Buffy vs. Dracuala. And you are right, Tara will not be able to help her. Oh I hope things aren't too angsty for Willow and for w/t.IP: Logged
posted February 05, 2001 10:26 Center stage both scares me and fascinates me. It is obviously her magick. They have been alluding to this since Buffy vs. Dracuala. And you are right, Tara will not be able to help her. Oh I hope things aren't too angsty for Willow and for w/t.IP: LoggedtvsurferBig Pineapple
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted February 05, 2001 11:00
as far as angst factor goes, tara knows willow has great power like her mom did. the past tense tara uses makes me think her mom is dead which has to have been a great loss for tara. so I'm thinking tara is going to be fighting some serious fears of her own if she stands a chance of losing willow too. IP: Logged
posted February 05, 2001 11:00 as far as angst factor goes, tara knows willow has great power like her mom did. the past tense tara uses makes me think her mom is dead which has to have been a great loss for tara. so I'm thinking tara is going to be fighting some serious fears of her own if she stands a chance of losing willow too. IP: LoggedtvsurferBig Pineapple
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted February 05, 2001 17:52
here is a thought
joss just signed a 20 mil contract to develop new shows and he is expected to have one coming out this fall
if he thinks AH should have her own show will he develop one for her?
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posted February 05, 2001 17:52
here is a thought
joss just signed a 20 mil contract to develop new shows and he is expected to have one coming out this fall
if he thinks AH should have her own show will he develop one for her?
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 05, 2001 18:37
Joss would never pull a star from one show to be on another (unless it was a spinoff, like Angel). He might very well create a series for Aly after Buffy is over, but not before.One wonders whether he might set up something for Amber as well - maybe something including a behind-the-scenes role, since she appears to have a talent for that too.
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posted February 05, 2001 18:37 Joss would never pull a star from one show to be on another (unless it was a spinoff, like Angel). He might very well create a series for Aly after Buffy is over, but not before.One wonders whether he might set up something for Amber as well - maybe something including a behind-the-scenes role, since she appears to have a talent for that too.
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any willow is good willow and more willow is even better, specially cuz it means more tara.
joss has made a number of very positive comments about ally, so i wouldn't be surprised to see him develop something for her post-buffy Which, by the by, could go 8 seasons or more given joss' recent contract w/fox.
ally is to thank for a lot of what's so great about btvs, given that no one has had more screen time than her except smg, no?IP: Logged
posted February 05, 2001 20:50 any willow is good willow and more willow is even better, specially cuz it means more tara.
joss has made a number of very positive comments about ally, so i wouldn't be surprised to see him develop something for her post-buffy Which, by the by, could go 8 seasons or more given joss' recent contract w/fox.
ally is to thank for a lot of what's so great about btvs, given that no one has had more screen time than her except smg, no?IP: LoggedeekibooTara Ass
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Registered: Nov 2000 posted February 06, 2001 05:05
Aly herself said in a mag interview:
quote:
"Somebody yesterday was saying to me that Willow really should have a spin-off, because then I would be... let's see... a vampire-slaying, computer-loving lesbian witch. And, you know, well, there's a series."
who knows after BTVS, a series abt Willow and Tara... wow! in our dreams for now! heh.heh. cheers and peace!
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posted February 06, 2001 05:05 Aly herself said in a mag interview:
quote:
"Somebody yesterday was saying to me that Willow really should have a spin-off, because then I would be... let's see... a vampire-slaying, computer-loving lesbian witch. And, you know, well, there's a series."
who knows after BTVS, a series abt Willow and Tara... wow! in our dreams for now! heh.heh. cheers and peace!
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could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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posted February 06, 2001 10:01 could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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posted February 06, 2001 10:17 could you give us the source for that interview quote?
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 06, 2001 12:19
I've always thought that the Willow dream comments in Restless "they'll find out about you" had nothing to do with being gay and all to do with, what I saw as significant foreshadowing in "Something Blue".
Can't wait and see if my (and others) hunch turns out to be right.IP: Logged
posted February 06, 2001 12:19 I've always thought that the Willow dream comments in Restless "they'll find out about you" had nothing to do with being gay and all to do with, what I saw as significant foreshadowing in "Something Blue".
Can't wait and see if my (and others) hunch turns out to be right.IP: LoggedtvsurferBig Pineapple
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted February 06, 2001 13:21
spoilers for something blue follow in follow up discussion4
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so in something blue the underworld turns out to be watching willow 'whose majic is strong' and offer her anya's old demon position right? so are you thinking that willow's secret is her taking an underworld assignment of some sort? that would be hard for me to accept since she turned them down already
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posted February 06, 2001 13:21 spoilers for something blue follow in follow up discussion4
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so in something blue the underworld turns out to be watching willow 'whose majic is strong' and offer her anya's old demon position right? so are you thinking that willow's secret is her taking an underworld assignment of some sort? that would be hard for me to accept since she turned them down already
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 06, 2001 13:34
I thought the "they'll find out about you" bit in Restless referred to the notion that despite Willow's new look, new witchy abilities, new sexual awareness, new relationship, etc., she was still the same mousy nerd-girl underneath. It came to pass within the dream itself, when Buffy ripped off Willow's "costume."Whether it plays out at some point in "real life" remains to be seen...
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posted February 06, 2001 13:34 I thought the "they'll find out about you" bit in Restless referred to the notion that despite Willow's new look, new witchy abilities, new sexual awareness, new relationship, etc., she was still the same mousy nerd-girl underneath. It came to pass within the dream itself, when Buffy ripped off Willow's "costume."Whether it plays out at some point in "real life" remains to be seen...
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted February 06, 2001 14:03
spoilers for restless and a few previous eppies in discussion below4
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2
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when re-viewing restless I was struck by the imagery in willows dream, like the cat, who I think represents the spirit of the first slayer (as a cat was used previously in the ep where buffy and faith are out cold in the hospital after buffy stabbed faith and angel drank buffy. buffy "chats" with faith in her dream, the first thing buffy see's is a cat on faiths bed and how she will take care of herself and faith knows of the key and speaks of little miss muffet counting down from ...)
I had the feeling in restless that tara was often speaking in terms of "the key" in both willows and buffys dreams ex. 'I wonder why she hasn't let us know her name yet' 'the plays already begun' and then later in buffys dream 'be back before dawn' so by the time tara is in buffy's dream tara knows the keys name
so I can't help but think that tara "saw" the position willow would play in the protection of the key and knows she won't be able to protect her from danger with magic
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posted February 06, 2001 14:03 spoilers for restless and a few previous eppies in discussion below4
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when re-viewing restless I was struck by the imagery in willows dream, like the cat, who I think represents the spirit of the first slayer (as a cat was used previously in the ep where buffy and faith are out cold in the hospital after buffy stabbed faith and angel drank buffy. buffy "chats" with faith in her dream, the first thing buffy see's is a cat on faiths bed and how she will take care of herself and faith knows of the key and speaks of little miss muffet counting down from ...)
I had the feeling in restless that tara was often speaking in terms of "the key" in both willows and buffys dreams ex. 'I wonder why she hasn't let us know her name yet' 'the plays already begun' and then later in buffys dream 'be back before dawn' so by the time tara is in buffy's dream tara knows the keys name
so I can't help but think that tara "saw" the position willow would play in the protection of the key and knows she won't be able to protect her from danger with magic
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Registered: Nov 2000 posted February 06, 2001 16:16
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Originally posted by tvsurfer:
could you give us the source for that interview quote?
thanks
http://www.deaddogparty.com/alytvzone.html
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posted February 06, 2001 16:16 quote:
Originally posted by tvsurfer:
could you give us the source for that interview quote?
thanks
http://www.deaddogparty.com/alytvzone.html
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