Man i am so angry right now.
I've read this whole thread and a few other related ones and you know what.
Your taking this way too far.
Yes, tara died in a cliche, yes, the writers mislead us, this is all true. But my opinion is, so what?
It certainly hasn't ruined the relationship for me and willow wasn't 'left with no chance for happiness'.
If everyone hadn;'t kicked off so much at the time chances are Amber Benson wouldn't of felt like she shouldn't come back and we would of still had willow and tara. Yes i know they wanted to bring her back evil, but you know what i would fuc*ing love that, anything over she who will not be named. It would of been great, she would of been evil and tara being the most gentle charecter on buffy it would of been shocking - good tv! But then she would be back for real and we'd have willow and tara again.
Your putting words into my mouth and loads of other W/T fans when you talk about lesbian willow and tara fans being so ripped up about the cliche.
I mean i was ripped up when tara died because it meant alot and still means alot to me. But i'm certainly not angry at the amazing and talented team that brought willow and tara to life in the first place. Alot of fans really jumped on joss whedon when he said
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but the fact of the matter is, no one wants to see Romeo and Juliet die happily married. Everybody feels terrible for them, wishes they could get away, but if they did, people wouldn't remember the damn play as much . . . I think that people need two kinds of fulfillment — one in which you give and one in which you hold back.
Part of fulfillment is need, is longing, is being unfulfilled, that's the nature of tragedy and a lot of drama. Very often, what the fans want, they get. But very often, what they want, they can't quite have, because we want them to feel the way our characters felt, we want them to feel how Willow felt after Tara died
But this is so true! And if tara had come back we would of had our happy ending too.
One thing i will get at is she who will not be named, i mean, it was just lame, season 7 was kinda lame compared to the rest of the series in my opinion. I mean yes Amber said no she didn't want to come back and i understand why and i respect that. But Joss has always said restraints force writers to be artistic, willow and you know who weren't a piece of art. But once again i'm lead back to people going too crazy about this, if we hadn't then maybe joss wouldn't of felt so much pressure to get willow a new girlfriend. I remember at the time everyone was saying 'this is so unrealistic, willow was in deep maddening love with tara why on earth has she gone off with the nearist jail bait' and
tottally agree but on the other hand people were saying 'willow is going to be left with no chance of happiness, doomed to be loveless and alone. Long live the cliche!'
You see what annoys me? It seems like people just want to take things out on the writters and joss becuase they're sad about losing the relationship and will look for any excuse rather than genuine un-professional conduct on behalf of the buffy team.
I'm sorry because i know people feel strongly about this and some will be upset about what i've said but reading all this thread and others has upset me. All i ask if that people answer me in a civil manner if they do at all if you think i'm out of line.
Long live Willow and Tara, the best lesbian relationship on TV ever. And Long live the people who made it possible. And as for this cliche business, it happens with any minority, the black commuity always complain about the black guy being killed off..., it's because minorities are vunerable and vunerable charecters are more fun to kill off because people want to shield the vunerable chatecters, it's human nature, so when they're killed off, it's more dramatic.
Tara's death happened, it was terrible, i still can't watch it without getting a lump in my throat and that is good TV; if we look at for example the l word (a poor substitute for the buffy show, willow and tara) when dana died i didn't feel upset at all, probably because the l word is crap, the writing is crap, the charecters aren't lovible..., the charecter development is some of the worst i've come across... but anyways, point is when i look at the l word i miss willow and tara even more and it upsets me to see people remembering them by this cliche.