Once and Again

[fell]

I love this show. What a bummer it's being cancelled. I would love to see an extended arc about Katie and Jessie. One thing that was ground-breaking about them was that this was about a first-time romance for a 15 year old. This is a radically sane and healthy message to see on network TV. I'm sure it's giving the right wing moralists fits.



Is there a single TV network that doesn't totally suck? It seems like 99% of the good shows get cancelled while mindless wanking drivel goes on and on. There are over 800 total hours of programming per week on my cable service and less than 8 hours of that is actually worth watching. And that's only when the best shows aren't in reruns.



On a positive note, the good side to this is that maybe the Katie/Jessie relationship, like W/T, will inspire some realistic romantic depictions of lesbian couples on TV for a change.

[oneinten]

Hurrah! Saw this ep last night too and thought the kiss was soooo cute! I'm glad too the they are still showing that these girls are still together. It would have been so easy for that to be just a one time thing! I'm also hoping they'll wrap this up a bit more by the end of the season. Like Shelly said and have them come out but it not be a big deal. Sigh well I can wish. Does anyone know if Mischa is in the next ep? She's so cute!



kath

[JoanneHillier]

Next Episode:



Once and Again

Losing You

60 min.



Bonnie Bartlett returns as the Brooks family matriarch, a proud yet failing woman who reawakens memories that Lily shares in dreamlike sequences with her late father (Paul Mazursky). Tiffany: Ever Carradine. Zoe: Meredith Deane. Jake: Jeffrey Nordling. Judy: Marin Hinkle.



Cast: Billy Campbell, Sela Ward, Shane West, Evan Rachel Wood, Meredith Deane, Julia Whelan, Jeffrey Nordling, Marin Hinkle, Ever Carradine, Bonnie Bartlett, Paul Mazursky, Mischa Barton



Last Episode:



SERIES FINALE



NEW OPPORTUNITIES FORCE RICK AND LILY TO MAKE SOME LIFE-ALTERING DECISIONS, ON THE SERIES FINALE OF ABC'S "ONCE AND AGAIN"



"Chance of a Lifetime" While Rick is offered the career opportunity of a lifetime, it's on another continent. Lily, for her part, also has some exciting news. The couple face yet another life-altering decision, but this one could displace the entire family, on the final series episode of "Once and Again," MONDAY, APRIL 15 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.



"Once and Again" stars Sela Ward as Lily Sammler, Billy Campbell as Rick Sammler, Julia Whelan as Grace Manning, Shane West as Eli Sammler, Meredith Deane as Zoe Manning, Evan Rachel Wood as Jessie Sammler, Susanna Thompson as Karen Sammler, Jeffrey Nordling as Jake Manning, Marin Hinkle as Judy Brooks, Steven Weber as Samuel Blue and Ever Carradine as Tiffany Porter.



Guest starring are Saul Rubinek as Colin, DB Woodside as Henry, Mischa Barton as Katie, Paul Dooley as Les Cresswell, Missy Yager as Sophia, Tim Snay as the minister, Mariah O'Brien as Brandy and Dan Lerner as Dan Lerner.



"Chance of a Lifetime" was written by Sue Paige, Daniel Paige, Marshall Herskovitz and Edward Zwick. The episode was directed by Dan Lerner.

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[eekdgeek]

whoo hoo Mischa's back next wk, thanks for the info Joanne, i was actually wondering if Katie is in it. i read that the finale is the 19th episode and not 22nd like the other shows. will the family ever find out abt Katie and Jessie, that they're more than friends? i hope they'd deal w/ that when the time comes, or if there are more episodes b4 the finale. coz fr last night's ep, Jessie was nervous when she thought the whole school found out abt her and Katie. peace

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[JoanneHillier]

I'm thinking it will come out, I read the basic idea of the last episode and it seems like a time that Jessie would come out cause of what might happened with the parents she is living with.



Also ratings from last night:



The NCAA championship earned a 13.8/23 in the 10 p.m. hour, peaking at 10:30 as Maryland began to pull away for its first national title. (The game ended after 11 p.m., outside of primetime.) A repeat of "Crossing Jordan," 7.6/12, on NBC finished ahead of "Once and Again," 5.8/10, on ABC.

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[oneinten]

Yah thanks for that info Joanne! I was wondering if Mischa was in any of the last episodes so it's looking promising. It would make sense for Jessie to tell her family if they are to make this "life altering decision". I also noticed eek that Jessie was more worried that everyone was actually talking about her and Katie. Once she realized it was about Grace she totally relaxed. I think she'll have major issues about coming out if she does.

[JoanneHillier]

It's gonna be weird, cause well they never built up the relationship really, right now they only been going out for a couple weeks so not really sure what is gonna happen, it could go either way and with the life changing thing, who knows.

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[Enigmatic]

Someone might have asked this before but I dare do it again...



Do anybody know where I can download these episode?

Coz here in DK, Jesse has only started to get anorexia, so I think we are pretty far behind...

And I REALLY want to see the new eps...!

[Tamara]

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"Chance of a Lifetime" was written by Sue Paige, Daniel Paige, Marshall Herskovitz and Edward Zwick. The episode was directed by Dan Lerner

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Ohhh Sue Paige and Daniel Paige, the amazing writing team that brought us the GSA episode



And ERW and MB in the last 2 episodes is so awesome. They were beyond cute in last nights episode!



~*~Tamara~*~

[Gloryp3mrs]

I tried to tape it but somehow it got messed up. Thank goodness for Lifetime! though i don't actually get lifetime, i'll get a OA watching friend to tape it for me, yay!



i did however see the fridge scene and went to bed quite a happy Molly

that was the cutest thing i have ever seen (except maybe baby polar bears)

[Xanadu20]

Thanks Grace My sig is from an Ani DiFranco song called Garden of Simple, off of her newest album "Reckoning and Revelling" It's really, really awesome!



Yeah, I hope your Mom's watching it too, La. I know mine still is, but I think she's trying to turn a blind eye toward Jessie and Katie right now. But hy, it's better than her freaking out and saying how the both of them are going to hell, right? I'll take what I can get.



Hey Shirleene, I got the postage money yesterday, thanks a bunch! Have you gotten the tape yet? Let me know when you do, could ya so i know it got there alright? Do you want last night's episode now, or do you want me to wait for the last two?

in the garden of simple, where all of us are nameless, you were never anything but beautiful to me.

[eekdgeek]

Gloryp3mrs, of course no one can beat W/T who are just the best and cutest couple on tv. since btvs are on reruns, atleast we have Katie and Jessie.



it would be interesting to see/find out how Jessie will handle her coming out and what her parents' reaction would be, considering Lily actually thought it was Grace who was gay. i've always wanted to see how things like this would be resolved since Jessie is just 15(?). i remember the movie The Truth About Jane, in this case, it's gonna be The Truth About Jessie. heh.heh. peace

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[dizzyren]

hey... just thought you'd might be interested... found this site while looking for some transcripts of previous shows.....

erw2002.com/

[ariel]

hi.. I made some clips:



test.fanbusiness.com/articles/12



I think they look better this time

[shellybean]

I thought that there was only one ep left, but there are two! yay! and it looks like Katie's gonna be in both of them! Maybe Jessie will tell the rest of the family if Rick wants to leave and Jessie says that she wants to stay with Katie. That'd be kinda cute. I just want them to find out.

And I was kind of expecting Lily to say something like "I guess Grace isn't gay" or something like that in the last ep because of Mr. Dmitri and all.

“But with Tara, I just know she likes Willow, and she already has one of those” – Family



“Honey, in case you didn’t hear me the first six-thousand times, no more teleportation spells.” – Crush

[imperfectly]

Oooh. Thanks, ariel. I haven't been able to watch my tape yet. But now I've seen the highlights. Cute smooch.

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Well, now that came out a lot more lesbian than it sounded in my head

[wiltar]

Thank you soooo much for those clips. I saw someone on your site already requested if you could do the whole dinner stuff too. I might add that I would love to see that myself too...so here's hoping



If you decide to make a clip of that and put it up: thanks in advance!!!



Patricia

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W-what were they looking at?

-The hotness of you doofus!!!

[Enigmatic]

Hey Ariel.

Thank you so much for the clips...they are great!!

--Er du måske læge??--

[La]

i second the "Yay! Thanks for the clips" remarks! I just watched the cute refrigerator kiss scene about 10 times in a row! That's adorable.

~La



"No one can resist the golden lasso. It binds all who are encircled and compels them to tell... the truth!"
~Wonder Woman

Edited by: La at: 4/3/02 5:54:59 am

[Tree]

I was so bummed when I found out the show was officially cancelled.It flashed across the bottom of the screen on the E! network while I was watching TV last week. I always regretted not making a bigger effort to watch it. I missed the Gay/Straight Alliance episode when it first aired and I just naturally assumed I would catch it when it aired again, but now it looks like that won't happen.

[ariel]

I added the dinner scene (it comes with the kiss too ) I'll probably do a clip of the garage scene tonight, if I get requests.



(sorry, I can't edit my original post)

[wiltar]

Here's a request! I must admit that I have no idea what that garage-scene is about, but I'll just see



Patricia

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W-what were they looking at?

-The hotness of you doofus!!!

[imperfectly]

I'll second that request. There's a garage scene?

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Well, now that came out a lot more lesbian than it sounded in my head

[ScoobySnack]

Eli lives above the garage, and Jessie is in there talking to him when Grace comes in. Jessie and Grace have a sweet, sisterly-bonding, dramatic moment type thing(after kicking Eli out of his own room). It's cute.

[Dazey]

You know, I'm almost glad the show got cancelled. It's too bad we won't get to see more of Jessie's arc...I don' t think there's ever been a gay character that young on TV, and it could have been a really wonderful coming out story (who knows, we may yet get some radically truncated version of it)...but at least this way, it won't get screwed up. We won't have to deal with tales of the network suits trying to censor stuff. Won't have to deal with painful breakups or any of the other myriad traumas that writers and producers inflict on us in the name of drama. (No, I'm not bitter.) The Jessie/Katie relationship will (hopefully, unless they somehow manage to screw it up in the 2 remaining eps) be forever frozen in its moment of first blossoming, always young and carefree and beautiful and innocent...untainted by the horrors of the world. It's good to have some things like that.

[imperfectly]

Well, Dazey, that’s a healthy (bitterness aside…LOL) way to look at the cancellation. It’s a little bit like how I feel about My So-Called Life’s early demise. That show was so perfect. And it’s frozen forever in time in that perfection. Plus, you get to image how it will all end, instead of having it all spelled out for you. (Though, I do miss that show. I watch the few episodes I have on tape and marvel.)



Of course, now they’ll prove us all wrong by having something catastrophic happen to Jessie and Katie in a two episode span…

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Well, now that came out a lot more lesbian than it sounded in my head

[ferocious toast]

I agree with you,Dazey. I rather remember their relationship as sweet and innocent, instead of having the writers play with my emotions.



But I will miss the show so much, and I hope to see the cast getting more work(I hope to see more of Mischa Barton as well!)



Take care.

[Denial Queen]

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Of course, now they’ll prove us all wrong by having something catastrophic happen to Jessie and Katie in a two episode span…

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like for example invoking the lesbian cliche and having one of them go crazy/dying and the other one going back to boys town.

*sigh * another passenger for the bitterness bus here.



p.s. edited to add yaay! i quoted. finally figured that out.

ches


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...when all else fails, there's always delusion.

Edited by: Denial Queen  at: 4/3/02 6:19:20 pm

[shellybean]

I kind of agree with you too Dazey. Even though it sucks at least their relationship will be frozen in time as a very memorable and sweet one. I don't know though. A part of me does agree with you and what I just said, but another part of me would rather see the show go on with the risk of them breaking up.

“But with Tara, I just know she likes Willow, and she already has one of those” – Family



“Honey, in case you didn’t hear me the first six-thousand times, no more teleportation spells.” – Crush

[oneinten]

I agree with you guys on this one. I'm hoping it'll be all love and kisses until the end. No massive coming out (unless positive), no sudden realization that one of them is straight, no drama-rama...just the sweetness of finding first love.



If this all happens Angelina Jolie will also walk into my bank one day, be smitten with me and move in leaving Billy Bob and tatooing my name on her arm...



Opps sorry wrong dream there...



kath