Pet Peeves

[kisstheviolets]

People cussing in front of my son.

if someone is at your home, or chatting with you somewhere and curses in front of your kid, i can see being peeved. i always watch it around my friends with kids.

however, i have a childless friend who gets after any of us if we're in public and there happen to be children around (who we are unaffiliated with) and we cuss. now that peeves me. i heard plenty of cussing as a kid, but knew better than to do it myself because my mom taught me not to. it's not my responsibility if other people don't do the same with their kids.

[Auburn]

I asked someone a question and they answered me with "That would be telling." Uh, well.... that's why I asked, STUPID!

It peeved me off.

[justin]

I asked someone a question and they answered me with "That would be telling." Uh, well.... that's why I asked, STUPID!

A worse one is when they say, "wouldn't you like to know." and you're like, "No, I just asked for a giggle."

[Emms]

KTV wrote:

if someone is at your home, or chatting with you somewhere and curses in front of your kid, i can see being peeved. i always watch it around my friends with kids.

however, i have a childless friend who gets after any of us if we're in public and there happen to be children around (who we are unaffiliated with) and we cuss. now that peeves me. i heard plenty of cussing as a kid, but knew better than to do it myself because my mom taught me not to. it's not my responsibility if other people don't do the same with their kids.

Not to seem argumentative, but it's just common courtesy to watch what you say in a public place if there are likely to be children present. Parents have a right to take their children out without fear that they're going to hear something potentially damaging. And it really has nothing to do with what parents are teaching or are not teaching their children at home. It is called personal responsibility--everyone has some, and it doesn’t stop being necessary just because whose ever child it is isn't your own. We're molding the next generation here, folks... and like the old saying goes (and yes I know this is a trite cliché ) It takes a village.

Anyway, once again I didn't mean to sound argumentative, I was just voicing my opinion on this subject. No offense or disrespect intended. And certainly everyone is entitled to their own POV on this.

Topic: Parents who let their children play on the grass underneath my living room window. Grrr

[justin]

Anyway, once again I didn't mean to sound argumentative, I was just voicing my opinion of this subject. No offense or disrespect intended. And certainly everyone is entitled to their own POV on this.

I also don't mean to be argumentative but hearing a few swear words is hardly going to be damaging to them. They'll hear a lot worse in the school yard or playing Grand Theft Auto

[Auburn]

I think not swearing in front of someone else's children is a matter of respect, and you would expect someone to have the same courtesy and respect to speak politely in front of your own children.

But then swearing is never necessary, is it?

Topic: My alarm clock in a morning, that most certainly peeves me off!

[db]

When your employer requires everyone to go to diversity training (yay!) and your manager makes a point of letting the floor know that they need training cause of how come we have a "diverse crowd" (read: there is a lesbian who works among us)... and then you get to said diversity training with all your peers and they spend over two hours talking and talking but never once ever mention anything about gender, sexual orientation, sexual identity... only talked about sexism and racism (but only in the broadest sense of the words). It was depressing.

[justin]

But then swearing is never necessary, is it?

yes.

next question.

Topic: Work

[kisstheviolets]

Parents have a right to take their children out without fear that they're going to hear something potentially damaging.

Actually, they don't. You should brush up on your First Amendment law. A parent would not have such a "right" unless they live in a jurisdiction with an archaic law intended to protect the delicate sensibilities of women and children (recall the Michigan man who was cited for cursing in front of women and children after falling out of a canoe) or the speech was transmitted through FCC governed frequencies.

I think its' completely off-target to take the responsibility away from parents and place it on people who did not choose to have children. I'd like to know where you get your definition of "personal responsibility" from because a plain reading of the words indicates that its responsibility for oneself and those under your legal authority, namely you and your children - not others and their children. While there's definitely something to the "village" mentality, the fact remains that the village didn't impregnate someone, or aid them in acquiring a child in some other way. Therefore, there has to be some limit to the burdens imposed on the village and some actual personal responsibility excercised by parents. Childless people pay taxes for other people's children to attend school because the public is served by having an educated citizenry. We drive slowly in school zones. We sit through flights and meals and films with crying babies and ill-behaved children. I think it's absolute rubbuish to argue that we are now responsible for what we say in conversations conducted in public (keep in mind I'm not advocating anything obscene, as there is no First Amendment protection for obscenity). Parents have to be responsible at some point - you can't blame society for everything.

[kindagay]

I don't think Emms was, in any way, trying to shift responsibility away from parents / carers.

Most parents (there are, unfortunately, some parents who couldn't care less about what their kids hear / repeat) do everything they can to ensure that their children are not exposed to offensive language. They don't cuss around their kids; they don't allow their children to watch programmes, play video games, read books, etc. with offensive language; and within their own home, it's fairly easy.
However, when you're out in society with children, you can't control or be responsible for, the kinds of language or behaviours the child is exposed to - short of blindfolding their kids & walking around with their hands covering the kids ears, there's nothing a parent can do.
Bearing that in mind, it's just common courtesy to watch your language around kiddies. Children are precious & innocent, what right do we have to corrupt them with offensive language? It's really not that difficult to not swear, & it's not like you have to stop cussing completely, just, watch what you're saying if there are children within earshot.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

Hugs
Jeanne

[dynigirl]

I attended a company meeting a few weeks ago where there professed the need for reception for wear make up.

My boss and I have decided to send out "how to wear make-up" books back. Let just wait and see what the reaction is.

[justin]

Good on you Dynigirl. fight the power!

One question, do you have a union?

[Auburn]

yes.

next question.

Uhm, no.

Topic: People.

[dynigirl]

One question, do you have a union?

No union, just two very determined people. Hospitaility isn't that well represented with unions, only if you hold a presonal (liquior) licence.

I've been descirbed by one of the main people prosfession the "must wear make up gang" as fisty. She has not seen anything yet, that day I was hungover. Now I have something to fight for.

[kisstheviolets]

I attended a company meeting a few weeks ago where there professed the need for reception for wear make up.

My boss and I have decided to send out "how to wear make-up" books back. Let just wait and see what the reaction is.

yay!! i'm glad your boss thought better of that lame idea. there was a big case here in recent years where a casino required its bartenders to wear make-up and style their hair and dress in "feminine" ways. the court totally allowed the grooming requirements, which i think is bogus since it requires a fair bit of sexual stereoptyping which the court has previously deemed impermissable. but hey, i'm not on the supreme court. so big yay on your boss for having better sense than the management at harrah's!

[dynigirl]

Luckily my boss has been with the company for six year and has had a review every year. No-one has ever said anything about her presentation etc. So if it all got nasty that woul go in our favour I guess.

[kimmy_s]

ok here goes...
1. people who don't push their chairs in when they leave the table. arghhh my whole family did it at lunch today and i went round after and pushed everyones chairs in!!
2. people who don't leave their knife and fork together when they have finished eating. common manners people!!!
3. (this is a work related 1) people who don't pay attention to patients dietary needs when they fill out menus. eg ordering beef casserole for someone with no teeth!!!!
ok rant over...
kim xx

[JustSkipIt]

Ok, first off, it appears that I hit a nerve with my pet peeve. It's my peeve. I wasn't trying to pass a law. But also, I was specifically referring to people who are at our house or who we're having dinner with. Yes, I'm aware that in public I can't control who says what and whether my son hears it.

Bearing that in mind, it's just common courtesy to watch your language around kiddies.

I'd actually extend that to say that it's common courtesy to watch your language. I mean how often are you on the bus or the store or whatever and someone is on the cell phone and discussing something that is offensive to you? Cursing or discussing the tits on the waitress or whatever? You would think it would be common courtesy to keep that conversation down right? Well it would also be common courtesy to not swear loudly in public and not just because of kids.

[SySnootles]

I'm with you on that one. I personally don't use offensive language (read: swear) myself because of personal preference (it really bothers me). I don't understand why people find it acceptable to swear like sailors in the grocery store or standing in line at the bank. I guess hoping there is even a little bit of propriety and courtesy left in society is foolish.

[FineyMcFine]

Ok, first off, it appears that I hit a nerve with my pet peeve. It's my peeve. I wasn't trying to pass a law.

Oh, really? Then explain the article in this newspaper that showed up on my front porch this morning:

[FemaleOfTheSpecies]

Oh my goodness, that just made me choke on my jaffa cake!

[DelWhicker]

That is just too funny for words. I almost peed myself! Good thing I didn't have a mouthful of cawfee at the time.

I Sally!

[JustSkipIt]

1. LOLOLOLOLOL!

2. Believe me that a sentence with the word cake in it, no matter what other words were present would only impress cake on Asher: Cake! Cake! Cake!

3. I have no idea how to go look up legislation but I'm realitively sure that there's already a city ordinance or state law generally outlawing profanity in public. I don't think it's actually enforced unless the cops want to arrest someone for public intoxication or disorderly conduct or something and just use that to toss on top of the "what you're doing wrong..."

[Emms]

Sally, that was marvelous, darling!

xoxo
Emms

(Alas, the children! )

[Auburn]

Watch yer mouth, that's actually how I would say it!

Topic: Shrill noises.

[Hers Always]

hehe that was funny.

topic: when i can hear someone else chewing their food. and when my girlfriend cuts her toe/fingernails on the bed and i wake up at night being stabbed by them because she doesn't clean off the bed when she is done.

[kisstheviolets]

Sally that was hysterical!!!

Look, for the record, I don't swear bluestreaks in public or think it's okay to talk about the "tits of waitresses" or anything like that (well, at least not within earshot of strangers). But if a "damn" or a "hell" flies at a normal volume in a conversation, one shouldn't be looked upon by someone a couple of tables over as if they'd just kicked an old person in the dentures or completely lack any civility. Parents are screwing their own kids up more than the cranky lady at table four.

If I change my tune when I have kids, I will happily eat crow, but in the meantime I stand by my position that impositions on the speech of others when not obscene or disruptive is yet another burden placed on childless citizens rather than on the parents where it belongs. Framing it as a courtesy issue misses the point. Anyway, I'm sure we can all agree to be peeved by each other on this and still live happily ever after.

[FineyMcFine]

Aw, thanks, y'all. For the record, in the city where The Kitten Times is published, it's always sunny and 69 degrees, and all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are well-behaved.

Topic: items for sale at Home Depot that don't have a UPC code or item number on them, thus making me run back to the aisle I got them in to look up the number, and holding up the entire line. Frackin' put a scannable code on the items if you're going to sell them, sez me.

Edited because I had written USB code instead of UPC code. I guess it should just be UPC, actually, since the C means code. Anyway, I think I spend too much time with computers.

[DelWhicker]

People that totally disregard the traffic corralling cones in parking lots.

Hey, buddy! If your side of the lane is blocked off by huge bright orange cones, maybe it's for a reason other than for you to practice your car slaloming skills. You're making me feel like I'm in some kind of insane parking lot demolition derby.

And while we're at it? I'm getting tired of this "Me first, fuck the world" mentality most drivers seem to be adoping! What ever happened to common courtesy? I swear, my next car is going to be an M1 Abrams Battle Tank. [/rant]

[FemaleOfTheSpecies]

Mine's a driving peeve too.

Motorcyclists that don't wear any protective clothing but weave in and out of rush hour traffic as if they are invincible. Coming home about half an hour ago there were three motorcyclists, one after the other, weaving in and out of the lanes of traffic. They all had helmets on but that was it. In fact one of them was wearing shorts and a vest top. If he had come off that bike at any speed he would have been seriously mangled.