Other Lesbians in the Media

[Rally]

Well such was the life of a lesbian in the early nineties... rent what ever crap was out there. Watch whatever crumbs Northern Exposure, LA Law and Twin Peaks would throw us and just basically pretend like you were somehow important.

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Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Killin Joke]

Thanks so much for the info, Kieli So no extra Eliza footage, huh... /sigh/ Well, I guess that's another one I can scrap from my list. Kevin Smith's movies are usually fun (Chasing Amy, Mallrats,...) if you can turn the switch and are ready for his kind of humour, don't let the political incorrectness bother you,...



Anyway, I have to admit it's a hobby of mine to watch movies that have my favourite actresses in it, whether the film is good or bad. I mean, I even went to see "Bring it on!", cheerleader-flick, in the cinema, just to see Eliza at work. The girl sure does know how to make an entrance: tougher than nails outfit, backflips a la Faith, etc. Of course she immediately gets labeled as "lesbian" and not in the great meaning of the word /uch/



I didn't know they had made a series of Jeanette Winterson's novel "Oranges are not the only fruit". Gods, this board is educational ! I should make a list (not that there are "that" many titles to remember, and as if I'm gonna find them all) /memorizes "When night is falling"/

"In the half-tone light of a young morning she sighs and shifts on the pillow. And across her face dancing, the first shadows fly to kiss the Pussy Willow." (Jethro Tull)

[oneinten]

OMG Autumn I thought I might have been the only lesbian who was exposed to that "erotica" Siren. Cripes the "Willowhand" scene from Buffy had more erotica in it than that movie. Sadly I bought it before knowing what I was doing. Art whatever! You can only watch someone washing a car fully dressed for so long!!!!



You were lucky you have advice from this group!



I am now thinking of renting "Oranges Aren't the Only Fruit" (excellent book)



Ta!



Kath



P.S. Anyone want to buy a used version of "Siren"???

[Dumbsaint]

Hehe. You know, I never did get to see "Siren," (someone ran off with our copy at ye olde queer video store, but the cover box was sure fun to look at when I was stocking the shelves) it's too bad that it apparently wasn't all that sexy. And I'm still trying to find a copy of I Have Heard the Mermaids Singing. No one ever has that one. Grr. Maybe I should just break down and order it, huh? Or beg for it for my birthday.



I liked the BBC miniseries of Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit so much that I bought a copy. It was really well done, keeping a great deal of the original charm of the book, I thought. It's In the Water- Zahir, you kill me. And so did that flick. Heh. So bad. So horrifically, painfully bad. Bleh.



I dunno, I think my favorite bad lesbo flick of all time has to be Sugar High, Glitter City. Heehee.

Wham, bam, slap-a-tag-on-my-toe, ma'am.

Hello, evil now!

[AutumnT]

Well, I rented Mermaids at a Blockbuster years and years ago if that helps at all.

Autumn

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[Rally]

Did anyone ever see Portrait Of A Marriage, it was on Masterpiece Theatre a long time back. Think I might still have it on videotape some place.

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Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[maudmac]

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I dunno, I think my favorite bad lesbo flick of all time has to be Sugar High, Glitter City.

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Okay, if we're getting into porn, I gotta nominate...uh...all of them. Especially Suburban Dykes and Hard Love. Except that one femme is kind of...alluring. With her hair all flippy.



Bluh, what am I saying?!? Even lesbian porn made by lesbians is bad. It's not so offensive, maybe, but it's still just as bad.



Edited to add the quote, because this post following one about Masterpiece Theatre is just wrong.

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Edited by: maudmac at: 6/5/02 8:50:55 am

[xita]

My favorite bad lesbo flick is Fresh Kill, not so much bad as low budget and weird.



Porno, yeah even made by women it is pretty bad, Goodbye Emma Jo is not too bad.



I kinda liked It's in the Water, the commentary on the DVD is hysterical.

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[AutumnT]

I'm with xita on In the Water. I there were some pretty funny scenes in it. And maybe living in Texas helped. Plus the scene where the woman pretends she is sick and instead rents like every lesbian title she can find to study up cracks me up. Many of the titles are being discussed in this very thread.

Autumn

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[oneinten]

I have to agree with Autumn and Xita In the Water wasn't that bad. I also cracked up when the main character rented those movies. Best lines in the movie:



Alex: "Grace, I want to kiss you"

Grace: "Don't say that..."

Alex: "Why?"

Grace: "Because you're going to like it!"



Now why didn't someone tell me that earlier???



kath

[iccle eve]

this post is seven pages long and my headache starting kicking in due to me spending to much time in front of my computer as it.

however there has to be portia de rossi, ok in ali mcbeal shes not but real life grrr..

and the best friend in american pie, definately my type.

luv

evexxxx

Willow "when i look at what you've been through, it makes me proud. it makes me love you more."

[Kieli]

See, I never got into porn before and, I must admit, I must be the world's worst lesbian because I have never even heard of some of these flicks before (hey, I lived in Amish country for ten years after I moved out at 18. They wrote the book on repressed sexuality. Needless to say, gay film and theater SO did not happen in Lancaster County )



But damned if I ain't going to scour the Internet to find these suggestions. You guys are a veritable fount of information.



KJ: Sorry I didn't have better news on the Eliza front. I have to admit, I lowered myself to watch Bring It On. Diana thought I was completely mad. I also watched The Lonely Hearts Club (not lesbian but a gay males' Joy Luck Club...it was truly hysterical but really did pick every queer stereotype in the book. Only think good was to see Dean Cain without a shirt. Studly man, he is ).

"I withdrew from the world, not because I had enemies but because I had friends. Not because they did me ill turn, as is customary, but because they thought me better than I am. It was a lie I could not endure." --Albert Camus

Edited by: Kieli  at: 6/5/02 12:08:03 pm

[Killin Joke]

Hey, Kieli, it's ok. That wasn't your fault. I'm already grateful you replied to my post and could actually answer my question. There are two movies with Eliza lined up anyway(hopefully they hit the theatres here soon): The New Guy, and Soul Survivors. If only they could release more lesbian flicks in the cinema. I got to see "Lost and delirious" during the filmfestival, in the city where I study. The cutiest movie, but again with a lousy ending. Maybe some kittens are considering a risky career choice and devote their work to bring girly happiness on screen

"In the half-tone light of a young morning she sighs and shifts on the pillow. And across her face dancing, the first shadows fly to kiss the Pussy Willow." (Jethro Tull)

[Kieli]

Actually I think I saw Soul Survivors....I think that's the one she's in that's out on VHS. If it's the same one I'm thinking of, don't bother wasting your time with it. Eliza only shows up a few times and the movie itself bit the big one. The New Guy is a teen flick of the highest order and really really is so bad that I can't believe I paid money to see it. I'm pathetic. I'll give any movie a chance that has Eliza in it

"I withdrew from the world, not because I had enemies but because I had friends. Not because they did me ill turn, as is customary, but because they thought me better than I am. It was a lie I could not endure." --Albert Camus

[MadeinNZ]

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Rally said:

Did anyone ever see Portrait Of A Marriage, it was on Masterpiece Theatre a long time back.

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Yes, I did. It was really shocking at the time (especially in little ole NZ). It was amazingly (and wonderfully) graphic. I brought the book afterwards cause I found it really intriguing. It has one of my favorite quotes. Violet wrote this to Vita in 1918:



"Heaven preserve me from littleness and pleasantness and smoothness. Give me great glaring vices, and great glaring virtues, but preserve me from the neat little neutral ambiguities. Be wicked, be brave, be drunk, be reckless, be dissolute, be despotic, be an anachist, be a suffragette, be anything you like, but for pity's sake be it to the top of your bent. Live fully, live passionately, live disastrously. Let's live, you and I, as none have ever lived before."



That just gets me everytime. Unfortunately there was no happy ending. Vita stayed with her husband and had many famous affairs (including one with Virginia Woolf). But Violet was considered the love of her life.

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"When someone falls for Willow, they stay fallen" - Normal Again

Edited by: MadeinNZ at: 6/5/02 2:48:15 pm

[Killin Joke]

Damn... I'm really out of it lately. So Soul Survivors is already out on tape, and apparently The New Guy hit the big screen in America too... Yeah, Kieli, I know what you mean: I'll probably try to rent those two movies, just to catch a glimpse of Eliza. I actually have good memories of Bring it on!, since I went to see it with my best friend, just before I got my exam results: brainless, mindnumbing activity helped to reduce the stress, forget about marks for a while, and I passed that year. Maybe I should find a similar flick this year, for good luck.



Portrait of a Marriage, huh: is that like a biography of the life of Vita Sackville West ?

"In the half-tone light of a young morning she sighs and shifts on the pillow. And across her face dancing, the first shadows fly to kiss the Pussy Willow." (Jethro Tull)

[Rally]

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Portrait of a Marriage, huh: is that like a biography of the life of Vita Sackville West ?

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Yes it aired as a mini series on Masterpiece Theatre back in like 1990.

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Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[VampNo12]

Yes Portrait of a Marriage was based on biography written by one of her sons with the same title. I really enjoyed watching this on PBS, but I wish I could of seen the unedited version that was shown to the BBC. Some of the love scenes were edited/shorten as well as some scenes not even making it into the PBS version. However, I must say I enjoyed the series so much I read the biography on Vita-Sackville West, which was quite intriguing especially her relationships (ie with Virginia Woolf).

[Killin Joke]

Thanks for the info, Rally and VampNo12. I had to read Virginia Woolf's "Mrs. Dalloway" and "To the lighthouse" the previous year (modernism: damn difficult). Needless to say I'd rather have read "Orlando", which was sort of based on Vita's family history. Anyway, I got to learn a lot about Virginia Woolf's life: kinda tragic at times (rape, depression, suicide...) She was married to a man in the end, but I don't think the marriage was ever consumated. My teacher did tell us that Vita had been the love of her life: that that relationship was sexual, very passionate. Heh

"In the half-tone light of a young morning she sighs and shifts on the pillow. And across her face dancing, the first shadows fly to kiss the Pussy Willow." (Jethro Tull)

[Lindy]

Sorry, has nothing to do with the recent conversation in this thread, but I just had to comment on it's title.

Because everytime I see it I go: "Huh? There are other 'real' lesbians in the media?" I haven't seen any on my TV in a while.

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Computers don't suck. ahem

[EffieBlue]

Eliza is pretty good in Soul Survivors,



I watched Portrait of a Marriage when it was shown on the BBC, but missed the last part...(well i watched it but was a bit out of it after running my Motorbike headfirst into a transit van in Peckam Rye) and i never got the chance to see it again.

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[semiramis]

Portrait of a Marriage was shown uncut in Australia around 1990. I know cause I taped it, rewatched it obsessively, and bought the book by Vita's son.

All of which seriously perturbed my then husband.....



Violet Trefusis has been one of my role models since, an out proud femme who wasn't ashamed of who she loved. A pity Vita wasn't as strong......

[TyRex316]

Anyone else see the teaser for Showtime's 'Soul Food' newest season. Apparently one of the sisters will be dealing with her attraction to another woman. No word,yet, on just how far they(TPTB) are running with it.

[AutumnT]

Well at least we've got a shot since it is Showtime which seems to be shooting for it's own version of Gay TV.



And with all this talk about Portrait of a Marriage which I have not seen does anyone know if it is available on VHS?

Autumn

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[Rally]

Doubting that it is, but if I can find my VHS copies next time I raid my parents garage. If they are still in tact after all these years, I can see about maybe ripping them.

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Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[AutumnT]

Thanks Rally

Autumn

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[Rally]

No problem, I just starting thinking about it today and last night with all this discussion of lesbians movies. I know I have a ton of stuff on VHS and books and smutty mags. Little do my parents know the horde of lesbian paraphernalia that has been stored in their garage all these years.

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Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[NoveltyAct]

i've looked for "portrait of a marriage" forever--will be very grateful if someone finds it on vhs and would let me know...

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[semiramis]

Rally, if you could rip Portrait of a Marriage I'd love a copy, I want to copy some of Violets dresses.



My tapes fell apart after constant use *sigh*

[La]

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