Willow/Tara DVD Thread

[AutumnT]

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I don't have the season 2 DVDs yet but I was wondering if any kittens agree with this columnist's complaints?

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Actually I do - especially about the grainy picture which is really noticable in dark scenes, which we all know never happen on Buffy. While certainly being better than my worn videotapes I am disappointed in the lack of clarity of picture that I usually expect from a DVD release.

Autumn

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Well, the reindeer part was nice...

[walker]

Umm, this isn't on DVD's it's about the video release of Season 6. I didn't know where else to put it so I decided to put it here. And thank you to any moderator who may put it in its correct place.



This post kind of fits in given the discussion of cut scenes. My g/f got the S6 box set today and we watched the first ep. They cut the Tara/Spike exchange in Bargaining Part 1 out. The one that goes -



Spike - It was that powder you blew at him made him rabbit out.



Tara - It's Sobri root. It's supposed to confuse him but it just kinda made him peppy. It's not supposed to mix with anything...do you think he might be taking prescription medication?



Spike - Yeah, that must be it.



That's one of the funniest exchanges in the whole episode. Why the hell they cut it is beyond me. : -->

"Oh, good distraction," Anya complemented. "Tara's breasts must have blinded them while she ran to get her stuff." She nodded her head. "Good thinking. Naked breasts are much better than eviceration. We are distracting lesbians here." - Lisa Countryman, Unexpected Consequences

[Coma123]

Hey Dark Horizons has a review of the Season 4 DVD.

It has some nice comments about Amber to...



www.darkhorizons.com/dvds/d-buff4.htm

[xita]

Amber is wonderful! and w/t are the best thing in season 4, well 5 tooo, and 6..

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Willow: (to Tara) I could heal.

Tara: (to Willow)And we’re gone.

[RayneFire]

Hey tober,



Lie to Me has always been a little odd. The very first time it aired on the WB, it aired without the cuts. The second time they aired it, it had the cuts. So the cuts weren't made for the DVD set - they were made when it aired the second time.

[mucifer]

that's very strange. I just watched "Lie to me" and only one of those 3 scenes was cut.

[urnofosiris]

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Amber is wonderful! and w/t are the best thing in season 4, well 5 tooo, and 6..

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Yeah they are, which is why I do want to have those DVDs, so I can capture *every* single moment and freeze it in time forever.

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"I am giving you what you need, not what you want"
-The perfect excuse to be an asshole

[Repost Moderator]

Originally posted by Vamp Xander



i just recently picked up buffy season 1 & 2 dvd's and there sure are a lot of joss whedon interviews. Buffy "You never get even a little tired of hearing yourself speak do you?"Joss "Actually no, because i have a tremendous ego".I found this amusing i hope you all enjoy.

[tober]

Hey RayneFire,



Yes, you're right. Those cuts were made after the first broadcast of "Lie to Me", not for the DVD set. But I kinda hoped that the original broadcast was used for the DVD set instead of the one with the cuts. I mean, before the S2 DVDs came out, I was really, really hoping that there wouldn't be any cuts whatsoever, because this is one of my favorite episodes of Season 2. I watched this episode on tape to the point of madness, even before S2 ended. And I was really disappointed when I saw the cuts on the rerun. It's not the same, knowing what was edited out.



Mucifer,



Well, I was going by the transcript that I got from Psyche's site. I was following the transcript while watching the DVD. The lines that were bracketed in those three scenes were definitely cut from the DVD that I got. Which scene were you referring to? Maybe you have a more complete episode. Because if you do, I would have to start hating you. Just kidding. But can I just mock-hate you or fake-hate you for, you know, fun? And then you could fake-hate me back. And then we could have a fake-hate battle that will destroy everyone and everything, including us. Or maybe not. Geez, I stink.



There are a few more cuts that I know of. If anyone is interested, I could post the rest later.



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"He stinks, and I don't like him." - surly truck driver from the Spiderman movie

[SJ]

It's good that S4 was released in widescreen. It really gives episodes like "Hush" and "Restless" a dreamy movielike quality. And lots of good Willow&Tara moments.

[nermal1]

Well widescreen isn't terribly good for me. My TV can't adjust to it, so I have to watch the DVDs with a squished picture. Ah well, though I have to say, it does make them all look *very* skinny

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Tribe Guys

[MadeinNZ]

I must say that, after watching S4 again, I kind of have a better opinion about it. When I first saw it I thought there was plenty of suckage. Riley sucked, Adam sucked, The Initiative (ie evil government agency) sucked. So I wrongly thought that S4 sucked.



Now I remember that there were some truly great episodes (Hush, Something Blue, NMR, This Year's Girl, etc. etc.) and even the lame episodes had some great moments (like the ironised hair scene).



I feel much better now.

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"When someone falls for Willow, they stay fallen" - Normal Again

[mollyig]

You left out The Yoko Factor . . tut tut, how could you?



I could never take to Riley, bless him. And as soon as I saw The Initiative, and figured them to be a Government Agency I despised them, even though they seemed to be anti-demon, I knew there was something sinister about them. Probably because I watch X Files, and also might have something to do with the fact that I work for the Government (not the Merkin one though).

Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

[MadeinNZ]

The shame. How could I forget the Yoko Factor? I love it when Giles tells Buffy that Adam is going to kick her arse. Too funny. And don't get me started on the Tara twirling Willow's hair thing.



I actually like Riley much more when he appeared in S6. Not such a big doofus.

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"When someone falls for Willow, they stay fallen" - Normal Again

[Ben Varkentine]

Good old Joss himself admits in the season overview included on the final disc that the fourth season is one where the whole was less than the sum of it's parts. Oh, and the guy who wrote the piece saying that witchcraft was not a metaphor for lesbianism won't like the part in that overview where Joss and others state that it deliberately was......

Ben Varkentine


"I'm very seldom naughty."

[Coma123]

Jeez if he says that about season 4 I wonder what he has to say about season 6.

[mollyig]

Only recently got round to watching the commentary for Superstar. At the part where Willow is tending to Tara after she'd been attacked by the Anti-Jonathon monster Jane Espenson says something like "poor Tara, she didn't know what we were going to do to her next season, or the season after". The blasé attitude actually made me growl.

Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

[Indygo]

Actually I'm kinda glad the only thing within reach when I first heard that commentary was the pillows on the couch... anything harder and the TV would have been in danger



Indygo

[Lindy]

Joss' (and other writer's) commentaries on the DVDs are making perfect sense; I can't exactly tell which episodes he commented on but over the seasons it goes along those lines:



It isn't thrilling if nobody is in danger, but we can't threaten Buffy that much, she is the main character, nobody would believe she could actually die .. so we put the others in danger.



Willow is perfect to be put in threatening situations, Aly plays the emotions so well and people can identify with her.



Willow has become such a strong character over the last years, so she isn't a little girl anymore, who we can put in dangerous situations, we needed someone new. Tara's character was perfect for that, we really planned to make her like the early Willow. [That's on the Hush commentary]



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So there, maybe I should take the time one day to search for the exact quotes, but this makes it even clearer. Joss wanted people (Scoobies) in life threatening danger. But Willow got to strong and the only reason Tara seemed to be introduced was to make people like her, identify with her and then.. well, you know what happened.



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Speaking about widescreen .. I noticed that the scenes are badly cut. Which doesn't matter on TV, but on the widescreen DVDs you see more of the left and right part of the picture, and often there are people moving there mouths, talking, but with no sound. I just saw This Year's Girl, where Buffy and Willow walk across campus, and just before they bump into Faith you see Willow talking and Buffy listening.. but no sound. The same happens between Willow and Tara with Tara supposedly out of the frame in Superstar, when Tara is about to take her "exit". This sucks! And I hate the stretchy look.

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Buffy: Kill the bad fairy... destroy the bad fairy's
powercenter, whatever, and all the troubles go away? ...

World is what it is. We fight. We die. Wishing
doesn't change that.

Giles: I have to believe in a better world.

[AutumnT]

Can I just say God Bless multi-region DVD players? I just got my Aussie season 4 DVDs and can now see so many of my favorite episodes in DVD goodness. For you US folks this player: www.world-import.com/dvd5800.htm works like a charm.

Autumn

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It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

[DRUSILLA LOVER]

im gonig to buy that dvd player, so if i buy it, it will let me play other countries dvds for sure?

[AutumnT]

Yes, it will. I am playing region 4 DVDs from Australia which are cheaper to buy in the US because of the exchange rate. The only thing I have found that does not work on it are DVD-RWs, but it states that in the manual.



If you have questions you can always email the store as well.

Autumn

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It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

Edited by: AutumnT  at: 6/25/02 1:13:24 pm

[Epicurus]

AutumnT, did you buy from your multi region player from that site?

I'm a little nervous ordering a modified product on line so I've been searching around for awhile looking for a reliable seller.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance
and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

[DRUSILLA LOVER]

yeah i want to buy that dvd player on that site too...but i just want to make sure that if i buy other countries dvds of buffy that it will work on that player when it is hooked up and ready to go, ya know what i mean. Also....does anyone know where i can buy the angel seasons from other countries, i checked ebay and amazon but there is nothing on angel dvds...any suggestions? thanks

[AutumnT]

Yes, I bought that exact DVD player. I filled out the online form on a Saturday and had the DVD in my hands the next Thursday. And they have free shipping.



I have not tested UK DVDs only Australian ones. I placed an order for season 4 DVDs with www.ezydvd.com.au/ but I did have to tell them via email that I had a region 4 DVD player to get them to ship to me. It took the package about 2 weeks to arrive.



That site does not have season 3, but I found one that does - www.planetdvd.com.au/index.asp



This last site also has Angel seasons 1 & 2.

Autumn

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It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

[tommo]

I think that you'll find UK DVDs will work just fine if Australian ones do. There's a disclaimer on my UK Season 4 DVDs that goes for Australia too. So I'm guessing all is well. Amazon will be deluged with orders. Heh.



Thanks for the tip, Autumn. And I know you won't read this until you've stopped watching the "flaming o" spell a few more hundred times. So, next Thursday will be the first time you read this.

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Squish. Squish. Squish.

[AutumnT]

I did have a moment of panic when I could not find that commentary about that particular "spell" that people were going on about because Who Are You? does not have commentary. Thank God I finally found the whole season 4 comments thing.



Boy it is obvious my tape was getting worn is all I can say. That scene looked GREAT as all nether realms scenes should.



I do have a question about some of the "widescreen" comments I've seen here. When I am watching it it is not letterboxed like widescreen usually looks and I see no setting on the DVDs for pan and scan or widescreen settings. What are you guys talking about?

Autumn

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It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

[Lindy]

My picture isn't letterboxed either, but squeezed on my TV, therefore I watch it on my PC and just open the window as a window (not maximized) to 'unsqueez' the picture manually.



I am not really familiar with the techniqual stuff behind all that, so, hm.. dunno how to explain it properly.

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Buffy: Kill the bad fairy... destroy the bad fairy's
powercenter, whatever, and all the troubles go away? ...

World is what it is. We fight. We die. Wishing
doesn't change that.

Giles: I have to believe in a better world.

[Epicurus]

Lindy, is your picture "squeezed" horizonally or vertically?

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance
and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

[Lindy]

From the sides. The whole picture is shown but as it seems to be saved in 16:9 format on the disc its squeezed so that the whole picture fits into the TV frame.



Now is that horizontal or vertical? Lol, imagine you push your hands together left and right from the screen.

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Buffy: Kill the bad fairy... destroy the bad fairy's
powercenter, whatever, and all the troubles go away? ...

World is what it is. We fight. We die. Wishing
doesn't change that.

Giles: I have to believe in a better world.