Thank you Michelle, this is the worst possible news but I’d rather know than not know, thank you for the way you posted this, it was very sweet of you.I will have to see this for myself before I post more about it, not that I don’t believe it but I need to actually see it before I post what I’m feeling right now and will be feeling when it airs, so until then I will just try to keep it bottled up, but I will say that words cannot describe what my opinion of Joss is right now, I am extremely disappointed in him and in the show.
So until I see this, I have nothing really more to say except stay strong Kitties, as long as there’s any little shred of hope, there’s hope.
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Wiccagrrl
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Posts: 1895
Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 11:34
First off, Michelle, thank you for posting the info here, and for always being so kind and straightforward. You're the best.Second, FUCK!!! I gotta say, if things *do* play out this way (and I'm still enough in denialland to really hope that it won't, or will get reversed, or SOMETHING!!!) then ep 19 will very possibly be the last Buffy ep I ever watch. I will feel just completely betrayed by the writers. We get, what, one real onscreen kiss before they kill Tara and turn Willow evil??? Damn, really think they're better than this. Gods, please, let this not go this direction. Near tears here. IP: Logged |
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Gay Now!
Posts: 1539
Registered: Feb 2001 | posted March 09, 2002 11:40
ok so I never read spoilers but thanks to Teri I just did. It would kill me to be spoiler free for this...I know that as it hurts now to read it *not a sad enough smiley for the occasion*Well kitties this is it, strong like an amazon anyone? ------------------
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Gay Now!
Posts: 1895
Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 11:43
Yep, strong like an amazon. We'll weather this. Thank god for The Kitten.IP: Logged |
Rane
Gay Now!
Posts: 1422
Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 11:48
sh*t! this is just what i needed, not like i'm already depressed. willow and tara were the light at the end of *my* tunnel. i kept thinking everything that's going on in my life that is so sucky sucky at least has a W/T reconciliation coming soon (and Once and again though that's being cancelled too. hrmph!).i'm glad that they are getting back together but i must admit i was a bit scared how tara said in the shooting script that she wanted to skip everything, like they dont have time to build the trust/relationship again. i didn't like that. now i know why. However, i'm so confused at all this. first wendy recants and then we get these getting back together goodies and then michelle posts this (still love you michelle!) and i just really feel like we're being played. it would be much better drama if anya turned and came back or something with dawn rather than killing off a character that is pretty much the soul of the scoobs. it just doesn't make sense to me. it's lame assed writing in my humble opinion if it plays out that way. i dont know. honestly, if tara is the one that dies then next year has pretty much lost a viewer. i dont know if i could watch buffy anymore cause it's just getting too depressing for me. i what the show for it's smart metaphores and realism but enough is enough. i cant take it anymore. still, i await for some more good news. edited... oops i pressed the wrong button and quoted myself instead of adding that they writers and producers even spoke out about this. i really really dont trust anyone right now. i cannot believe they would say things like *over my dead body* and take it so lightly. [This message has been edited by Rane (edited March 09, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Cool Monster Fighter
Posts: 242
Registered: Oct 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 11:49
well, i promised not to read spoilers but someone whispered that there were nice spoilers in the new thread. now i wish i stopped reading after the first page.*sigh* i feel like i've been hit by a Mack truck. i don't think i can take the sadness so i'll proably stop watching after the 19th. if all signs point to things becoming better during the finale then i just might continue to watch. If not, i want to be the last episode i see to end with much happiness. "...they were my light at the end of the tunnel but i guess they were a train" *sigh* [This message has been edited by Queen of Denial (edited March 09, 2002).] IP: Logged |
willow420
Cool Monster Fighter
Posts: 224
Registered: Nov 2001 | posted March 09, 2002 11:49
Thanks Michelle. This is very devastating news, but your a very reliable source and I would never shoot the messenger. This will be a very hard time for all of us loyal Kitties and for all Willow and Tara fans alike. I am very angry about this but I can't let anger overwhelm me. I've had to accept this even though I find acceptance a hard pill to swallow, but once it's down then the healing can begin. I love Willow and Tara and seeing this happen will just kill me inside but you can't get angry and judge Mutant Enemy without seeing it and seeing where its going first. It's taking alot of strength not to hire someone to beat the shit out of Joss but he has been good to us in the past and I will have to see how this plays before I completely hate him. Right now I'm very pissed with him but I really feel I need to see how this plays out. I'm shocked and don't want to believe it but only when you accept a bad situation can you start to heal. ------------------
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tommo
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Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 11:49
That light at the end of the tunnel? It's a train. A big honkin' train. Have to say though, I'm really full of admiration for the way kitties are receiving this news. It's very heartening. ------------------
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Ange
Cool Monster Fighter
Posts: 259
Registered: Dec 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 11:51
Thanks a lot, for helping me.You know what i feel, kittens. That there's going to be another picture at the bottom of the threads, soon. A kiss picture!!!! Oh no!!!! That's the worst news ever. Tara can't die. She can't. I can't believe it. And i won't believe it before i see it. Angel X has always been good with us, but i can't believe it for the moment. I don't see her, going and not coming abck and Willow going back in magic. Why? Why? Why don't they kill Anya? Tara was just so simple to make die. Too simple.
And Wanda, says that it's not Tara, then now, we say to us that's it's Tara. I'm not believing. But Angel X, that would be good if you could post, the cofee date scene, please. Ange. [This message has been edited by Ange (edited March 09, 2002).] IP: Logged |
The Partyman
Floating Rose
Posts: 48
Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 09, 2002 11:53
Thanks to Michelle for posting that information here before anywhere else.I'm a regular at AnGeL X's Spoiler Board, which always has hordes of fans greedy for spoilers, pretty much all the time. To deley posting thsi news to the C&S shows a much appreciated sensitivityto both the informationa and all of the Willow and Tara fans. Terrible news. But thanks for being honest with us, AnGeL X ------------------
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Bobo's Mom
Doll's Eye Crystal
Posts: 110
Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 09, 2002 11:59
Words escape me, and my heart is broken. While I'm thankful for the information, why does it feel like I just returned from the doctor's office with some really bad news, and this is my time to wander through all the stages of grief? I'm still in the stock stage. ------------------
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ANYA: With yoga?
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tommo
Lesbian Gay Type Lover
Posts: 5925
Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 12:02
There's a messenger chat on right now, if people want to join. Please do join us if you want to talk about any of this.We abandoned the regular yahoo chat room because it's not working well for people. Please add any one of us to your yahoo ID list and we'll invite you to a conference chat. My ID is tommo27_2000 or you can use any of the following: xita
warduke71
hugin_len Just a quick edited note about messenger chat: When you enter the room, you have the choice whether to put voice on or not. We like to use voice a lot so if you've got access to that you'll have the full conversation. When you come into the room, click the mic at the top of the dialog box and that will turn the sound on for you. If you've got headphones and a mic, then you're sorted. Look forward to hearing you! We can't wait to hear from you and you're most welcome to comiserate with us. Remember, there's strength in numbers. Chin up, everyone. ------------------
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SeanGaffney
Doll's Eye Crystal
Posts: 98
Registered: Feb 2001 | posted March 09, 2002 12:06
Well, bleah. This sucketh verily. Oh well, will reserve my thoughts on storyarcs and the producers who love them till I see spoilers for 21 and 22.--SG IP: Logged |
Willowlicious
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Posts: 254
Registered: Oct 2001 | posted March 09, 2002 12:18
I'm not even sure what to say. Winning my bet last night doesn't seem as fun now. In fact, the pessimist in me was thinking last night that it was odd to put "truly and forever" into a shooting script unless you intended to off someone. But I wasn't in a pessimistic mood and I wasn't about to post that even as a joke given all that has gone on here. I'm not angry (yet), because I don't know what ME truly has in mind yet. I'm devastated, that's for sure. I haven't been so involved with a show before and I've never been a shipper of any other couple. I've never had so much fun romping around an online community either. I thank everyone at the Kitten so much for that. For the moment, though my insides are literally quivering right now, I'm going to try to keep it together and wait to see what happens in the last two episodes. I hope it isn't what it seems. Tara dying is unthinkable, but Willow becoming crazy with grief and murdering Warren--who deserves it but who is also human--is just...I said I wouldn't get angry. Buffy has never killed a person, not even with Dawn at stake. This turn of events is so cruel to characters that I have to hope it's not what it seems. I don't know what that means. I just know I don't want to spend next year watching BtVS with Tara gone and Willow either evil or a grief-stricken murderer or both. That's just not "must-see" TV in my book. Anyway, thank you Michelle. If anyone had to walk me over to the "private little room off to the side" and give me devastating news, I'm glad it was you. Thanks for always respecting the show and our feelings. I'm sorry everyone. Amy IP: Logged |
AnGeL X
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Posts: 21
Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 09, 2002 12:22
Here's that scene I mentioned from 18. The "coffee date."ESPRESSO PUMP Tara and Willow sit across a table from each other with coffee and scones. Comfortable, happy. TARA
Okay, wait, it was under her wig? WILLOW
It was this thing, and it came out from inside her head. TARA
That's disgusting. What did it look like? WILLOW
Well... let's put it this way. If I wasn't gay before... TARA
Gah. And this was after the invisible ray? WILLOW
Yes. TARA
Okay, I go away for a couple of months... WILLOW
Oh, did I tell you about the demon eggs? TARA
See, now I know you're just trying to make me jealous. WILLOW
So, what, no rollicking adventures in the dorms? TARA
It's not the same. It's not like living in a house full of family or sharing a room with someone you...you know... WILLOW
Are friends with?
Couple of lines from later on when they're talking with Anya...
TARA
It's not really so much about hating the men. WILLOW
We're more centered around the girl on girl action.
Wish there was more to give... but that's pretty much it. There are a few other lines, but nothing much. If I find out anything about 19 with W/T, I'll let you know. It should be all happiness. Also, if I find out that the info I have is wrong, I will personally throw the party.
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mynois14
Blessed Wannabe
Posts: 3
Registered: Jan 2002 | posted March 09, 2002 12:23
I told someone about the spoilers and they posted this. I know this person is probobly wrong. Or it could be a fake thing they heard to trick people and make them think it isn't her or something. But I'll hold on to my last little shred of hope and post their reply anyway.
-----THIS IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS. HOWEVER, IN AN INTERVIEW WITH AMBER BENSON, AMBER SAYS THAT THINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY FILMED OR STARTED THESE FINAL EPISODES. SORRY, BUT I DOUBT THAT ITS TARA.------------
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tommo
Lesbian Gay Type Lover
Posts: 5925
Registered: Sep 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 12:24
Thanks Michelle. Thank you. You've always been in our corner. ------------------
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Warduke
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Registered: Nov 2000 | posted March 09, 2002 12:24
Thanks Michelle for posting that, you're a complete sweetheart Still full of bitterness though IP: Logged |
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Registered: Sep 2001 | posted March 09, 2002 12:24
From happiness at reading about the reunion and a passionate onscreen kiss to absolute sadness at readng about Tara's death -- my emotions have been whipped around.I am completely and thoroughly disappointed. And truthfully? If this spoiler does indeed play out this way onscreen ... I will be an ex-Buffy viewer. Or in the very least I will not be watching as faithfully. I really watch the show for Willow AND Tara -- together. I am truly sadden by this news. IP: Logged |
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted March 09, 2002 11:34
First off, Michelle, thank you for posting the info here, and for always being so kind and straightforward. You're the best.Second, FUCK!!! I gotta say, if things *do* play out this way (and I'm still enough in denialland to really hope that it won't, or will get reversed, or SOMETHING!!!) then ep 19 will very possibly be the last Buffy ep I ever watch. I will feel just completely betrayed by the writers. We get, what, one real onscreen kiss before they kill Tara and turn Willow evil??? Damn, really think they're better than this. Gods, please, let this not go this direction. Near tears here.
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posted March 09, 2002 11:34 First off, Michelle, thank you for posting the info here, and for always being so kind and straightforward. You're the best.Second, FUCK!!! I gotta say, if things *do* play out this way (and I'm still enough in denialland to really hope that it won't, or will get reversed, or SOMETHING!!!) then ep 19 will very possibly be the last Buffy ep I ever watch. I will feel just completely betrayed by the writers. We get, what, one real onscreen kiss before they kill Tara and turn Willow evil??? Damn, really think they're better than this. Gods, please, let this not go this direction. Near tears here.
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted March 09, 2002 11:40
ok so I never read spoilers but thanks to Teri I just did. It would kill me to be spoiler free for this...I know that as it hurts now to read it *not a sad enough smiley for the occasion*Well kitties this is it, strong like an amazon anyone?
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'The cold and ruthless sea tossed the lovers' into the starry black night. together they fall, together they sleep. forever.. forever.. *whisper*forever..the cold and ruthless sea...' By Sweets
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posted March 09, 2002 11:40 ok so I never read spoilers but thanks to Teri I just did. It would kill me to be spoiler free for this...I know that as it hurts now to read it *not a sad enough smiley for the occasion*Well kitties this is it, strong like an amazon anyone?
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'The cold and ruthless sea tossed the lovers' into the starry black night. together they fall, together they sleep. forever.. forever.. *whisper*forever..the cold and ruthless sea...' By Sweets
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted March 09, 2002 11:43
Yep, strong like an amazon. We'll weather this. Thank god for The Kitten.IP: Logged
posted March 09, 2002 11:43 Yep, strong like an amazon. We'll weather this. Thank god for The Kitten.IP: LoggedRaneGay Now!
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted March 09, 2002 11:48
sh*t! this is just what i needed, not like i'm already depressed. willow and tara were the light at the end of *my* tunnel. i kept thinking everything that's going on in my life that is so sucky sucky at least has a W/T reconciliation coming soon (and Once and again though that's being cancelled too. hrmph!).i'm glad that they are getting back together but i must admit i was a bit scared how tara said in the shooting script that she wanted to skip everything, like they dont have time to build the trust/relationship again. i didn't like that. now i know why.
However, i'm so confused at all this. first wendy recants and then we get these getting back together goodies and then michelle posts this (still love you michelle!) and i just really feel like we're being played. it would be much better drama if anya turned and came back or something with dawn rather than killing off a character that is pretty much the soul of the scoobs. it just doesn't make sense to me. it's lame assed writing in my humble opinion if it plays out that way.
i dont know. honestly, if tara is the one that dies then next year has pretty much lost a viewer. i dont know if i could watch buffy anymore cause it's just getting too depressing for me. i what the show for it's smart metaphores and realism but enough is enough. i cant take it anymore.
still, i await for some more good news.
edited... oops i pressed the wrong button and quoted myself instead of adding that they writers and producers even spoke out about this. i really really dont trust anyone right now. i cannot believe they would say things like *over my dead body* and take it so lightly.
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posted March 09, 2002 11:48 sh*t! this is just what i needed, not like i'm already depressed. willow and tara were the light at the end of *my* tunnel. i kept thinking everything that's going on in my life that is so sucky sucky at least has a W/T reconciliation coming soon (and Once and again though that's being cancelled too. hrmph!).i'm glad that they are getting back together but i must admit i was a bit scared how tara said in the shooting script that she wanted to skip everything, like they dont have time to build the trust/relationship again. i didn't like that. now i know why.
However, i'm so confused at all this. first wendy recants and then we get these getting back together goodies and then michelle posts this (still love you michelle!) and i just really feel like we're being played. it would be much better drama if anya turned and came back or something with dawn rather than killing off a character that is pretty much the soul of the scoobs. it just doesn't make sense to me. it's lame assed writing in my humble opinion if it plays out that way.
i dont know. honestly, if tara is the one that dies then next year has pretty much lost a viewer. i dont know if i could watch buffy anymore cause it's just getting too depressing for me. i what the show for it's smart metaphores and realism but enough is enough. i cant take it anymore.
still, i await for some more good news.
edited... oops i pressed the wrong button and quoted myself instead of adding that they writers and producers even spoke out about this. i really really dont trust anyone right now. i cannot believe they would say things like *over my dead body* and take it so lightly.
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IP: LoggedQueen of DenialCool Monster Fighter
Posts: 242
Registered: Oct 2000 posted March 09, 2002 11:49
well, i promised not to read spoilers but someone whispered that there were nice spoilers in the new thread. now i wish i stopped reading after the first page.*sigh* i feel like i've been hit by a Mack truck.
i don't think i can take the sadness so i'll proably stop watching after the 19th. if all signs point to things becoming better during the finale then i just might continue to watch. If not, i want to be the last episode i see to end with much happiness.
"...they were my light at the end of the tunnel but i guess they were a train"
*sigh*
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posted March 09, 2002 11:49 well, i promised not to read spoilers but someone whispered that there were nice spoilers in the new thread. now i wish i stopped reading after the first page.*sigh* i feel like i've been hit by a Mack truck.
i don't think i can take the sadness so i'll proably stop watching after the 19th. if all signs point to things becoming better during the finale then i just might continue to watch. If not, i want to be the last episode i see to end with much happiness.
"...they were my light at the end of the tunnel but i guess they were a train"
*sigh*
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IP: Loggedwillow420Cool Monster Fighter
Posts: 224
Registered: Nov 2001 posted March 09, 2002 11:49
Thanks Michelle. This is very devastating news, but your a very reliable source and I would never shoot the messenger. This will be a very hard time for all of us loyal Kitties and for all Willow and Tara fans alike. I am very angry about this but I can't let anger overwhelm me. I've had to accept this even though I find acceptance a hard pill to swallow, but once it's down then the healing can begin.
I love Willow and Tara and seeing this happen will just kill me inside but you can't get angry and judge Mutant Enemy without seeing it and seeing where its going first. It's taking alot of strength not to hire someone to beat the shit out of Joss but he has been good to us in the past and I will have to see how this plays before I completely hate him. Right now I'm very pissed with him but I really feel I need to see how this plays out.
I'm shocked and don't want to believe it but only when you accept a bad situation can you start to heal.
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Heads will roll in due time!
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posted March 09, 2002 11:49 Thanks Michelle. This is very devastating news, but your a very reliable source and I would never shoot the messenger. This will be a very hard time for all of us loyal Kitties and for all Willow and Tara fans alike. I am very angry about this but I can't let anger overwhelm me. I've had to accept this even though I find acceptance a hard pill to swallow, but once it's down then the healing can begin.
I love Willow and Tara and seeing this happen will just kill me inside but you can't get angry and judge Mutant Enemy without seeing it and seeing where its going first. It's taking alot of strength not to hire someone to beat the shit out of Joss but he has been good to us in the past and I will have to see how this plays before I completely hate him. Right now I'm very pissed with him but I really feel I need to see how this plays out.
I'm shocked and don't want to believe it but only when you accept a bad situation can you start to heal.
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Heads will roll in due time!
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De-nial is a long, wide river to cross without drowning first.
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IP: LoggedtommoLesbian Gay Type Lover
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted March 09, 2002 11:49
That light at the end of the tunnel? It's a train. A big honkin' train.
Have to say though, I'm really full of admiration for the way kitties are receiving this news. It's very heartening.
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posted March 09, 2002 11:49 That light at the end of the tunnel? It's a train. A big honkin' train.
Have to say though, I'm really full of admiration for the way kitties are receiving this news. It's very heartening.
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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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Posts: 259
Registered: Dec 2000 posted March 09, 2002 11:51
Thanks a lot, for helping me.You know what i feel, kittens. That there's going to be another picture at the bottom of the threads, soon. A kiss picture!!!!
Oh no!!!! That's the worst news ever. Tara can't die. She can't. I can't believe it. And i won't believe it before i see it.
Angel X has always been good with us, but i can't believe it for the moment. I don't see her, going and not coming abck and Willow going back in magic.
Why? Why? Why don't they kill Anya? Tara was just so simple to make die. Too simple.
And Wanda, says that it's not Tara, then now, we say to us that's it's Tara. I'm not believing.
But Angel X, that would be good if you could post, the cofee date scene, please.
Ange.
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posted March 09, 2002 11:51 Thanks a lot, for helping me.You know what i feel, kittens. That there's going to be another picture at the bottom of the threads, soon. A kiss picture!!!!
Oh no!!!! That's the worst news ever. Tara can't die. She can't. I can't believe it. And i won't believe it before i see it.
Angel X has always been good with us, but i can't believe it for the moment. I don't see her, going and not coming abck and Willow going back in magic.
Why? Why? Why don't they kill Anya? Tara was just so simple to make die. Too simple.
And Wanda, says that it's not Tara, then now, we say to us that's it's Tara. I'm not believing.
But Angel X, that would be good if you could post, the cofee date scene, please.
Ange.
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IP: LoggedThe PartymanFloating Rose
Posts: 48
Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 09, 2002 11:53
Thanks to Michelle for posting that information here before anywhere else.I'm a regular at AnGeL X's Spoiler Board, which always has hordes of fans greedy for spoilers, pretty much all the time.
To deley posting thsi news to the C&S shows a much appreciated sensitivityto both the informationa and all of the Willow and Tara fans.
Terrible news. But thanks for being honest with us, AnGeL X
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posted March 09, 2002 11:53 Thanks to Michelle for posting that information here before anywhere else.I'm a regular at AnGeL X's Spoiler Board, which always has hordes of fans greedy for spoilers, pretty much all the time.
To deley posting thsi news to the C&S shows a much appreciated sensitivityto both the informationa and all of the Willow and Tara fans.
Terrible news. But thanks for being honest with us, AnGeL X
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 09, 2002 11:59
Words escape me, and my heart is broken. While I'm thankful for the information, why does it feel like I just returned from the doctor's office with some really bad news, and this is my time to wander through all the stages of grief? I'm still in the stock stage. ------------------
TARA: Willow and I always know how to find each other!
ANYA: With yoga?
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posted March 09, 2002 11:59 Words escape me, and my heart is broken. While I'm thankful for the information, why does it feel like I just returned from the doctor's office with some really bad news, and this is my time to wander through all the stages of grief? I'm still in the stock stage. ------------------
TARA: Willow and I always know how to find each other!
ANYA: With yoga?
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BUFFYBOT: That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo!
IP: LoggedtommoLesbian Gay Type Lover
Posts: 5925
Registered: Sep 2000 posted March 09, 2002 12:02
There's a messenger chat on right now, if people want to join. Please do join us if you want to talk about any of this.We abandoned the regular yahoo chat room because it's not working well for people.
Please add any one of us to your yahoo ID list and we'll invite you to a conference chat.
My ID is tommo27_2000
or you can use any of the following:
xita
warduke71
hugin_len
Just a quick edited note about messenger chat:
When you enter the room, you have the choice whether to put voice on or not. We like to use voice a lot so if you've got access to that you'll have the full conversation.
When you come into the room, click the mic at the top of the dialog box and that will turn the sound on for you. If you've got headphones and a mic, then you're sorted.
Look forward to hearing you!
We can't wait to hear from you and you're most welcome to comiserate with us. Remember, there's strength in numbers.
Chin up, everyone.
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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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posted March 09, 2002 12:02 There's a messenger chat on right now, if people want to join. Please do join us if you want to talk about any of this.We abandoned the regular yahoo chat room because it's not working well for people.
Please add any one of us to your yahoo ID list and we'll invite you to a conference chat.
My ID is tommo27_2000
or you can use any of the following:
xita
warduke71
hugin_len
Just a quick edited note about messenger chat:
When you enter the room, you have the choice whether to put voice on or not. We like to use voice a lot so if you've got access to that you'll have the full conversation.
When you come into the room, click the mic at the top of the dialog box and that will turn the sound on for you. If you've got headphones and a mic, then you're sorted.
Look forward to hearing you!
We can't wait to hear from you and you're most welcome to comiserate with us. Remember, there's strength in numbers.
Chin up, everyone.
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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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IP: LoggedSeanGaffneyDoll's Eye Crystal
Posts: 98
Registered: Feb 2001 posted March 09, 2002 12:06
Well, bleah. This sucketh verily. Oh well, will reserve my thoughts on storyarcs and the producers who love them till I see spoilers for 21 and 22.--SG
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posted March 09, 2002 12:06 Well, bleah. This sucketh verily. Oh well, will reserve my thoughts on storyarcs and the producers who love them till I see spoilers for 21 and 22.--SG
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Posts: 254
Registered: Oct 2001 posted March 09, 2002 12:18
I'm not even sure what to say. Winning my bet last night doesn't seem as fun now. In fact, the pessimist in me was thinking last night that it was odd to put "truly and forever" into a shooting script unless you intended to off someone. But I wasn't in a pessimistic mood and I wasn't about to post that even as a joke given all that has gone on here. I'm not angry (yet), because I don't know what ME truly has in mind yet. I'm devastated, that's for sure. I haven't been so involved with a show before and I've never been a shipper of any other couple. I've never had so much fun romping around an online community either. I thank everyone at the Kitten so much for that.
For the moment, though my insides are literally quivering right now, I'm going to try to keep it together and wait to see what happens in the last two episodes. I hope it isn't what it seems. Tara dying is unthinkable, but Willow becoming crazy with grief and murdering Warren--who deserves it but who is also human--is just...I said I wouldn't get angry. Buffy has never killed a person, not even with Dawn at stake. This turn of events is so cruel to characters that I have to hope it's not what it seems. I don't know what that means. I just know I don't want to spend next year watching BtVS with Tara gone and Willow either evil or a grief-stricken murderer or both. That's just not "must-see" TV in my book.
Anyway, thank you Michelle. If anyone had to walk me over to the "private little room off to the side" and give me devastating news, I'm glad it was you. Thanks for always respecting the show and our feelings.
I'm sorry everyone.
Amy
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posted March 09, 2002 12:18 I'm not even sure what to say. Winning my bet last night doesn't seem as fun now. In fact, the pessimist in me was thinking last night that it was odd to put "truly and forever" into a shooting script unless you intended to off someone. But I wasn't in a pessimistic mood and I wasn't about to post that even as a joke given all that has gone on here. I'm not angry (yet), because I don't know what ME truly has in mind yet. I'm devastated, that's for sure. I haven't been so involved with a show before and I've never been a shipper of any other couple. I've never had so much fun romping around an online community either. I thank everyone at the Kitten so much for that.
For the moment, though my insides are literally quivering right now, I'm going to try to keep it together and wait to see what happens in the last two episodes. I hope it isn't what it seems. Tara dying is unthinkable, but Willow becoming crazy with grief and murdering Warren--who deserves it but who is also human--is just...I said I wouldn't get angry. Buffy has never killed a person, not even with Dawn at stake. This turn of events is so cruel to characters that I have to hope it's not what it seems. I don't know what that means. I just know I don't want to spend next year watching BtVS with Tara gone and Willow either evil or a grief-stricken murderer or both. That's just not "must-see" TV in my book.
Anyway, thank you Michelle. If anyone had to walk me over to the "private little room off to the side" and give me devastating news, I'm glad it was you. Thanks for always respecting the show and our feelings.
I'm sorry everyone.
Amy
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Posts: 21
Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 09, 2002 12:22
Here's that scene I mentioned from 18. The "coffee date."ESPRESSO PUMP
Tara and Willow sit across a table from each other with coffee and scones. Comfortable, happy.
TARA
Okay, wait, it was under her wig?
WILLOW
It was this thing, and it came out from inside her head.
TARA
That's disgusting. What did it look like?
WILLOW
Well... let's put it this way. If I wasn't gay before...
TARA
Gah. And this was after the invisible ray?
WILLOW
Yes.
TARA
Okay, I go away for a couple of months...
WILLOW
Oh, did I tell you about the demon eggs?
TARA
See, now I know you're just trying to make me jealous.
WILLOW
So, what, no rollicking adventures in the dorms?
TARA
It's not the same. It's not like living in a house full of family or sharing a room with someone you...you know...
WILLOW
Are friends with?
Couple of lines from later on when they're talking with Anya...
TARA
It's not really so much about hating the men.
WILLOW
We're more centered around the girl on girl action.
Wish there was more to give... but that's pretty much it. There are a few other lines, but nothing much. If I find out anything about 19 with W/T, I'll let you know. It should be all happiness. Also, if I find out that the info I have is wrong, I will personally throw the party.
-Michelle
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posted March 09, 2002 12:22 Here's that scene I mentioned from 18. The "coffee date."ESPRESSO PUMP
Tara and Willow sit across a table from each other with coffee and scones. Comfortable, happy.
TARA
Okay, wait, it was under her wig?
WILLOW
It was this thing, and it came out from inside her head.
TARA
That's disgusting. What did it look like?
WILLOW
Well... let's put it this way. If I wasn't gay before...
TARA
Gah. And this was after the invisible ray?
WILLOW
Yes.
TARA
Okay, I go away for a couple of months...
WILLOW
Oh, did I tell you about the demon eggs?
TARA
See, now I know you're just trying to make me jealous.
WILLOW
So, what, no rollicking adventures in the dorms?
TARA
It's not the same. It's not like living in a house full of family or sharing a room with someone you...you know...
WILLOW
Are friends with?
Couple of lines from later on when they're talking with Anya...
TARA
It's not really so much about hating the men.
WILLOW
We're more centered around the girl on girl action.
Wish there was more to give... but that's pretty much it. There are a few other lines, but nothing much. If I find out anything about 19 with W/T, I'll let you know. It should be all happiness. Also, if I find out that the info I have is wrong, I will personally throw the party.
-Michelle
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Posts: 3
Registered: Jan 2002 posted March 09, 2002 12:23
I told someone about the spoilers and they posted this. I know this person is probobly wrong. Or it could be a fake thing they heard to trick people and make them think it isn't her or something. But I'll hold on to my last little shred of hope and post their reply anyway.
-----THIS IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS. HOWEVER, IN AN INTERVIEW WITH AMBER BENSON, AMBER SAYS THAT THINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY FILMED OR STARTED THESE FINAL EPISODES. SORRY, BUT I DOUBT THAT ITS TARA.------------
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posted March 09, 2002 12:23 I told someone about the spoilers and they posted this. I know this person is probobly wrong. Or it could be a fake thing they heard to trick people and make them think it isn't her or something. But I'll hold on to my last little shred of hope and post their reply anyway.
-----THIS IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS. HOWEVER, IN AN INTERVIEW WITH AMBER BENSON, AMBER SAYS THAT THINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY FILMED OR STARTED THESE FINAL EPISODES. SORRY, BUT I DOUBT THAT ITS TARA.------------
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a rat will ow
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Posts: 5925
Registered: Sep 2000 posted March 09, 2002 12:24
Thanks Michelle. Thank you. You've always been in our corner. ------------------
You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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posted March 09, 2002 12:24 Thanks Michelle. Thank you. You've always been in our corner. ------------------
You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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Posts: 2750
Registered: Nov 2000 posted March 09, 2002 12:24
Thanks Michelle for posting that, you're a complete sweetheart Still full of bitterness though
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posted March 09, 2002 12:24 Thanks Michelle for posting that, you're a complete sweetheart Still full of bitterness though
IP: LoggedBrynnDoll's Eye Crystal
Posts: 98
Registered: Sep 2001 posted March 09, 2002 12:24
From happiness at reading about the reunion and a passionate onscreen kiss to absolute sadness at readng about Tara's death -- my emotions have been whipped around.I am completely and thoroughly disappointed. And truthfully? If this spoiler does indeed play out this way onscreen ... I will be an ex-Buffy viewer. Or in the very least I will not be watching as faithfully.
I really watch the show for Willow AND Tara -- together.
I am truly sadden by this news.
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posted March 09, 2002 12:24 From happiness at reading about the reunion and a passionate onscreen kiss to absolute sadness at readng about Tara's death -- my emotions have been whipped around.I am completely and thoroughly disappointed. And truthfully? If this spoiler does indeed play out this way onscreen ... I will be an ex-Buffy viewer. Or in the very least I will not be watching as faithfully.
I really watch the show for Willow AND Tara -- together.
I am truly sadden by this news.
