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Re: Chapter 20a: Three Small Words

Postby tiredsoul » Sun Jan 26, 2003 10:55 pm

You left it there? *sniff*



I’m not sure Tara should have read through the journal, but I can understand her compulsion to. The need to understand has to be overwhelming. And because I cannot help but post my favorite lines …
Quote:
For every happy moment of her life, playing, reading, learning magic from her mother, there had been a dark, grieving one in Willow’s.
That’s a tough realization on Tara’s part on top of all of the other revelations.



Now what’s Willow going to think when she finds out Tara read her journal?



Great update.



--celia



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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.

tiredsoul
 


More Chapter 20 Replies

Postby darkmagicwillow » Sun Jan 26, 2003 11:10 pm

sheila wt: Reading comments like yours make me wish I could write this forever; I am so going to miss all of you, for your encouragement, for your insight, and just for being there, once I'm done with this story.



VampNo12: I like what you say about Arien, and I must confess I feel conflicted about her too. The weight of Willow's grief is so tremendous that it is comforting to know that she had at least one moment of comfort, but at the same time, Arien is not a good or nice person.



They need to communicate, but each is afraid with her own secret, knowing that they aren't the person that the other thinks they are. Secrets don't last forever, though.



SB: I love your vision of Tara as Pandora here. It's so appropriate; perhaps she learned too much of Willow's curiosity last time around?



I wonder how Willow would answer your question. It really touches on the essence of Willow's dilemma, at least from Tara's point of view.



FlereImsaho: Glad to see you back, even on weekends only. The journal was so emotional to write; I had to keep leaving it and coming back to it for that reason.



Inward Sea: No, you can't ever gush too much. (-; I must admit that it is a little intimidating when I think about doing another story--what if they don't like the next one? I know, I know, I should write for myself, and I do, but posting here is for you as well as for me.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

darkmagicwillow
 


Feedback

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Mon Jan 27, 2003 7:57 pm

DMW--First of all, please forgive the unforgivable delay in this feedback to 3 very wonderful installments. Each part was so moving, and so right in its timing and tone. It's an understatement to say that I'm loving this story, and yet I feel so tacky when I resort to over- statement. Anyway, please don't interpret my delay as lack of absolute adoration.



So, lessee...Part 19a was perfectly timed, I thought. I hadn't realized how much I needed that quiet and reflection, from both of them, until I read it. You've given us such sound and fury in recent updates and as I read this I thought, "Ah, yes--I can catch my breath and be completely absorbed at the same time." Their respective morning musings give us insight into each woman's thoughts of the other in the quiet after-shadow of the night's epic battle. Such an incredible struggle would have illuminated much for each of them about the other, and about their own feelings and needs. Ah, but just as I'm feeling all warm and cozy, Willow goes and decides that she'll "make one last journey into the darkness alone to keep them both safe." Why do I not have a good feeling about this? Is it prudent concern as a result of well-written forshadowing? Or just a slight case of indigestion from the convenience-store hot-dog? I do hope it's the latter, and yet I somehow doubt that it is.



When reading 19b, I became more and more fascinated by the Heart and its meanings. Certainly this had to be a purposeful choice for magickal object on your part, b/c of its infinite possibilities for nuance and complication. I thought this quote from the journal was chilling: "I don't know if the Heart is broken, or whether it was simply evil from the beginning." The possible parallels w/ various characters (esp. Willow) are truly fascinating. I mean, it's a heart being used to destroy. How beautifully ironic is that? And I had another sense of forboding/indigestion when Amy is musing to herself about bringing back someone who's never been defeated. Buffy's been cremated; Dawn has been asked into some kind of role by Willow. What's going to come of this? Who is she expecting to bring back? Amy herself is also a very interesting character. I remember you saying that you had a soft spot for her, and I wonder how she'll emerge in the coming updates. Finally, your conversation b/w Willow and Dawn was extremely illuminating, I found, in considering the nature of both light and dark magicks. I was especially intrigued by their interplay, their disparate strengths and limitations/qualifications. You weave this kind of insight so seamlessly into the story. You don't need a big bold-type heading that says Explanation of Important Concept Right Here.



And 20a...oh, did my own li'l heart do some impressive contortions as I followed Tara's reading of Willow's journal. One of the things that I think you did especially well was the pacing of the scene: you give us Willow's words and then Tara's hopes, fears, theories regarding them. You give us a morsel of Willow-words, and you portray Tara's reaction to each discovery in a way that lets us see the rollercoaster she's on as she finds first one set of ideas and then another. And that creeping sense of fear, the one that won't go away until you have proof-positive that it's not true, and please-oh-please let this next line/word/action prove it's not true...oh God, it's true. You took us along achingly on Tara's emotional journey--so many lifetimes revealed within 5-10 minutes.



Interestingly (and perhaps diagnostically) I didn't really get too wrought up about the moral aspect of Tara's decision to read the journal. You gave us a good inner dialogue to show us her own dilemma, and I understand her decision. I mean, what do I really have to base any judgement on for this particular action? I can't even begin to imagine what Tara is going through and thus in this situation, I see journal-reading as a 25-cent sin versus a $10.00 one.



OK, I think that's it. Sorry again for the woeful delay. This is a wonderful story and I can't wait to read (and write) more.



Mary

AntigoneUnbound
 


Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby darkmagicwillow » Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:28 am

Here is the conclusion of chapter 20. This is a high angst chapter.



Mary, I'll get back to your wonderful feedback later.







Title: The Dark Rose - Chapter 20b (Three Small Words)

Author: Dark Magic Willow

Email: darkmagickwillow@yahoo.com

Rating: R, mostly for violence, no explicit sex

Pairing: W/T

Spoilers: All episodes through the end of season 6 though this story takes place 18-19 years after the end of season 6.

Feedback: Yes! Constructive criticism is always welcome.

Summary: Realizations and choices.

Magic Note: Magic, even dark magic, is not addictive in my universe, so there are no withdrawal symptoms and no dark magic dealers. Here Rack was a dark magic teacher who used his students, not a dealer. However, you can use too much magic and you can be corrupted by the power it gives you.

Disclaimer: I don't own any of the copyrights or anything else associated with BtVS. All rights lie with the production company, writers etc.

Acknowledgements: Thanks to Amanda and Juli for so much wonderful feedback on this chapter





The Dark Rose

Chapter 20b: Three Small Words






"What was all the key business about with Dawn last night?" Tara asked. They were folding clothes together, the dryer having completed its cycle while they were eating lunch. The piles of untidy clothes on the floor were gradually diminishing as they created new piles of clean, folded clothes on the neatly made bed.



Tara wished she could talk with Willow about what she had read in the journal this morning. She was certain it would help Willow too. But she couldn't, not when she'd read it without asking Willow.



She had tried to push thoughts of the journal out of her mind with the repetitious movements of the familiar tasks of washing and folding clothes, but the feelings still haunted her. They couldn't be driven away by the scents of freshly washed laundry or the familiar ritual of folding clothes. She felt uneasy and depressed, as if she had taken on some of the burden of grief from the book.



Willow didn't seem to hear Tara for a moment as she continued folding the shirts in front of her, trying to figure out how to tell Tara about Dawn. It was complicated, and she didn't want Tara to misunderstand. Tara patiently continued folding the clothes from her pile too as she waited for Willow to answer.



"She's mystical energy transformed into a person," Willow said at last. "She was sent to Buffy to be protected from Glory. I know it sounds weird, but the monks who changed her gave all of us, including you, memories of Dawn so that we thought that she had been there all along."



Tara paused in her work and her brow furrowed as she tried to figure this out. "So she's not really Buffy's sister?" Tara said.



"She is," Willow said firmly. "She was made from Buffy's flesh and blood."



"I like Dawn," Tara said, reaching over to gently stroke the back of Willow's hand, her instinctive urge to reassure Willow overcoming her reservations from this morning. "I wouldn't want to hurt her. I'm just trying to understand."



Willow took Tara's hand in hers. "I know," she said, squeezing Tara's hand gently. "It's just ... if you ever said anything like that to Dawn."



Tara returned the squeeze. "I wouldn't," she said. "But could I ask you another question?"



"Sure," Willow said. Then her eyes narrowed, and she gave Tara an unconvincing frown. "Unless this is just a way to get out of folding clothes." She gave Tara's hand another soft squeeze to let her know that she was kidding.



Tara stiffened for a moment, Willow's narrowed eyes instantaneously bringing back that piercing sensation of cold she'd had as she read about Willow's thoughts about resurrecting her predecessor. Then she relaxed, knowing Willow wouldn't hurt her, at least not in that way.



"Hey!" Tara said, raising her eyebrows in an attempt to respond to Willow's teasing as if nothing had happened. "They're your clothes." She glanced down at their clasped hands for a moment before looking back up at Willow's face. "And it's sort of hard to fold clothes with only one hand." She made an awkward attempt to fold a shirt to demonstrate her point. It ended up in an ugly tangle.



Willow reluctantly pulled her hand away, sliding her fingertips along the length of Tara's hand as she did so. "If you insist," she said teasingly.



"I'll get you for that later," Tara said, but her teasing tone fell flat and her smile didn't quite reach her eyes.



"What's wrong?" Willow asked tenderly, her voice full of concern.



"Why does it have to be blood?" Tara asked. It wasn't just about Dawn's blood. It was about her blood too, the connection that she shared with the past but couldn't understand no matter how much she learned about what had happened.



"Blood is life," Willow answered. Her eyes were distant as her mind filled with thoughts of the past, of the night when she first heard those words. She'd lost her best friend that night, but she'd gotten Tara back. Now she had Tara back again, and she was resolved not to lose anyone, not Tara, not anyone, when she confronted the Master. "It's what makes us alive, what makes us feel," she continued, returning to the present. "Dawn isn't a witch. She doesn't do magic. She is magic, incarnate as flesh, and she needs to shed blood to release her power."



"Isn't there another way?" Tara asked. "Can't you break the Heart somehow?"



"It's older than the world," Willow answered. "I don't think anything could break it, but we can throw it into the Void. I could create a portal to another world, but Dawn can open the Void that lies between them."



"But what if someone finds it there?" Tara asked.



"The Void is infinite. It's not like anyone could stumble across it," Willow answered. She cocked her head as she looked at Tara. "Why do you have so many objections anyway?"



"Blood magic seems dark to me," Tara said. She paused a moment, biting her lower lip as she tried to figure out how to say this to Willow. "I was afraid that night with the Master," she confessed in a hesitant voice, letting her hair fall forward to hide her face. "You came so close to using the darkness. I'm afraid that if you do that, you won't ever come back."



Willow looked down, unable to face Tara directly with the knowledge that she planned to use dark magic once more in her mind. She wished she could tell the truth, but Tara had left her the last time she had broken such a promise and she couldn't risk losing her again.



Yet the Master was too powerful to ignore, and she had to stop him before Tara was hurt. Willow was caught between two wrong choices; lying to Tara seemed to be the lesser of two evils. She just couldn't ignore the Master as she had Warren, knowing the cost of that all too well.



"I will always come back," Willow promised, looking up into Tara's face with determination in her eyes. It was the most she could truthfully promise Tara. She reached over to take both of Tara's hands in her own. "And Dawn's power isn't in any way dark. You can talk with her about it if it worries you."



"I believe you," Tara's said, squeezing Willow's hand. "But I'm still worried about what happened with the Master."



"I just-" Willow began and then broke off. She swallowed convulsively. "I can't lose you again."



"You won't," Tara promised, taking both of Willow's hands in her own and looking steadily into her dark eyes. "You don't need dark magic to keep me. You just need to love me." She looked deep into Willow's dark eyes, searching for a hint of the love that she felt for Willow being returned. "I need you to be just mine. I don't want to share you with the past or the magic."



"I am, you know," Willow said, looking up into Tara's blue eyes then nervously looking away, her heart beating too rapidly. She thought Tara loved her, but she was afraid of saying those three small words too soon. Willow had enough courage to offer Tara these words instead. They meant as much to her, but they were safer. She had treasured them for a lifetime and their memory had kept her going when despair was all around her. She hoped Tara could accept this gift for what it was. A promise of a future together.



"What?" Tara asked, perplexed by the emphasis Willow was placing on her words. She could see how nervous Willow was, but she didn't understand why. Was this when Willow would tell her that she couldn't love her, that she only could love the past Tara?



"Yours," Willow promised in a whisper, needing all her courage to look into Tara's eyes to see her reaction.



She could feel the importance of Willow's words, but they rang hollow to her. There was something withheld from her in Willow's dark eyes. She couldn't believe Willow after what she'd read in her journal. She wasn't Willow's Tara; she was just a shadow of that memory that Willow was willing to settle for.



"Are you?" Tara asked, her eyes full of doubts. "Aren't you hers?" She dropped Willow's hands and stepped back from her.



"Whose?" Willow asked, her brow knit with puzzlement and hurt. Willow felt the caustic words of Tara's rejection burn deeply into her unprotected heart. She had been worried about Tara rejecting her, but she felt completely blindsided by the vehemence of Tara's response. Who could Tara be talking about? There hadn't been anyone else ... not for years and years.



"The other Tara," Tara said harshly, her voice rough with anger and pain. Her expression was bleak, empty of hope, as all the emotions she'd pent up came tumbling out. "The old one. She's the one that you love, not me." She swept her hands out abruptly in a short, jagged gesture as if snapping the thread connecting them, knocking over one of the piles of neatly folded clothes. This issue had been eating at her for weeks. Willow's incredulous face made her all the more angry when she knew from reading her journal that Willow had been thinking just this.



"Tara, no," Willow said, her voice catching in her throat. She reached out to take Tara's hand in her own, but Tara slipped away from her. She gazed at Tara, her eyes full of hurt and her hands empty and slack at her sides. "What happened? Why are you saying these things?"



Driven by her anger, Tara bent down and yanked Willow's journal out from under the bed where she had slipped it this morning. She slammed it down on the bed, knocking over another pile of folded clothes. "I read it in your own handwriting," Tara said, her voice sharp and loud with anger. "Tell me that you love me," she challenged. "You told me that you love her, but you've never said those three small words to me."



Willow focused on the journal for a moment, her heart contracting painfully as she felt a shadow of the grief she'd thought safely bound between those covers fall over her. The thought that Tara would dig up her old pain and use it against her made her feel hurt at first, then angry. She looked back up at Tara, her eyes flashing with anger. "How did you find that?" she demanded. "You had no right-"



"No, I didn't" Tara admitted, cutting Willow off with a short, sharp gesture. "You're avoiding my question," she said. She turned half away from Willow, shrugging as she did so. "But I guess already know the answer," she said in a soft, sad voice.



"Tara, you're still the same person," Willow said. "I never stopped loving you." Her tone was impatient, as if the truth of her words should have been obvious to anyone.



Tara whirled back to face Willow, her blonde hair splashing about wildly. "But I'm not," she said. "I'm me, a real person, not just an extension of the past." She raised her hands as if to plead with Willow, then realizing what she was doing, curled her fingers into fists and brought her hands back to her sides. "Why can't you understand that?"



"I-" Willow began.



Tara shook her head, her eyes dull with pain and despair. "It doesn't matter," she said in a low, despondent voice. She grabbed her jacket and start out the door.



"Tara, wait!" Willow pleaded, her expression desperate and fearful. Her anger fled in the face of her fear as her mind worked feverishly trying to understand why Tara was suddenly so upset. What had Tara read in her journal? If she could just get Tara to talk with her, even argue with her, she could fix things. She reached for Tara's shoulder.



Tara shrugged off Willow's hand, leaving the room with long brisk strides. Looking back over her shoulder, she said "Just leave me alone," her voice cold and hard. Willow followed Tara to the door, desperately seeking the words that would stop her from leaving, but Tara walked out the door without a backward glance.



Willow stood in the doorway, silhouetted by the light behind her as she watched Tara walk away. She reached out in a hopeless gesture, but only the fingers of her shadow touched Tara. Then they slipped away, unable to hold onto her.





* * * * * *






In a shadowy room illuminated by a single black candle, Amy Madison sat in the center of concentric circles of blood red sand. Between the circles writhed the strange and malevolent shapes of mystical symbols written in some dark, sticky fluid. A black crossbow bolt lay on the floor before her. She held an athame in her left hand and extended her other hand above a small porphyry bowl. A small silver stylus lay beside the bowl.



She cut open her palm with a deft, practiced motion and squeezed blood out of her fisted hand into the bowl. Blood slowly dripped into bowl from her hand. Once the flow stopped, she put the athame aside and picked up the stylus. Dipping it into the bowl, she began to meticulously scribe tiny runes on the bolt in her own blood. "By my blood and thy name, I thee slay," she chanted over and over as she wrote until the bolt was covered in runes of dried blood that spelled death for the one it was destined for.



Looking down at her handiwork, Amy smiled. The lengthy process of preparation was finally complete. No shields or protections could save Willow from a spell enclosing her true name. The slightest contact with the bolt would be fatal.



All she had to do was say three small words.





* * * * * *






Willow sat on the bed staring into her bedroom mirror, her eyes red from crying. The mirror was new. She'd just moved it in here today, finally believing that she could keep something so fragile and breakable close to her. Her reflection flickered as the single red candle illuminating the room began to gutter and die out.



She had stared into the mirror for hours, wondering who the person in the mirror was. She had known the person she'd seen in the mirror this morning. That had been Tara's Willow, the Willow of Willow and Tara. The two names felt so right when she said them together.



Now she didn't know who she was. She had given everything, leaving nothing for herself, to get that feeling back. She thought again and realized that that wasn't true. There was grief. And despair. Her old companions had returned when Tara had left.



A single thought echoed over and over in her mind. Tara was gone. She didn't want Willow any longer.



Willow couldn't blame her. She knew it was her fault. If only she hadn't gotten angry, if only she hadn't hesitated to say those three small words. She was foolish to have thought that someone like Tara would want her.



The years in the darkness had marked her. She didn't have the right to bring such darkness down on someone so bright, but there was something she could do. Tara was alive and Willow could ensure that she stayed that way. Tonight she would destroy the Master.



She slowly stood up and began undressing, looking down at the black leathers she had removed from their trunk and neatly laid out on the empty bed beside her. Clean and once neatly folded clothes lay in a tangled mass by the bed. Deliberately, article by article, she replaced her clothes of the day with the black leathers. After stretching her fingers into black leather gloves, she picked up the final article of clothing from the bed and turned to face the mirror.



Years alone had made the image she saw now in the mirror familiar to her. The dark witch in the mirror looked right. Strong, powerful, mysterious. But also alone, grieving, and despondent.



It was how she was meant to be, she told herself. She looked into the mirror and saw a person who could defeat the Master, but there was something missing in her eyes. Where there once always been the smallest of hopes underlying the steely determination, there was nothing now.



Looking deeply into the mirror, she said "Goodbye," whether to herself or to Tara she wasn't sure. Then she placed the black mask over her face. The candle guttered out and the image in the mirror faded to black.

--

"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

darkmagicwillow
 


Re: Feedback

Postby funkyasian » Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:43 am

well, you weren't kidding about the angst...but everything will work out right? damn amy...should've just let her die a rat...that would've been a fitting end to someone so damn annoying...



all in all, i think i know what tara's feeling...to think that she's only an extension of another person can't be a very positive feeling...



can't wait for the next update...



~steph

Nothing can cure the soul but the senses, just as nothing can cure the senses but the soul. ~ Oscar Wilde

funkyasian
 


Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby barnabasvamp » Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:06 am

Wow, can't help feeling sorry for both girls :sob



Tara now sees herself as a completely different person, and Willow just can't.



Poor Willow. Sounds like she may have given up and be going after the master alone! :eek



Tara must come to the rescue, and help, please? :)

BV

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"Melissa Etheridge

barnabasvamp
 


Re: Feedback

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:35 am

DMW--Oh, God, all I can think of is: Talk to her! And I'm saying that to each of them, dammit. Why is it that they (and perhaps all of us) can face such danger and fear from external sources and yet fear that arises from within, connected to something emotionally precious to us, brings us to our knees and makes cowards of the same people who fought wars, villains, battles, fires the night before? How ironic it seems that each of them are brought lowest by her own fears about her worthiness. They don't question the legitimacy and rightness of their love for the other, but they struggle so mightily with believing that the other truly can (and should) love her. And now Amy's back on the scene, and I wonder what HER three little words are, and somehow I suspect they're not "Grant everyone joy."



I'm not sure what your plans for the day/night are, but I really must insist that you drop them and get Willow and Tara back in the same room where each can answer the other's questions. If you're due to give birth this afternoon, tell the kid to hold her horses while Mom takes care of important kitten business.



(This, of course, from the woman who's a week behind her own story...the best defense is a good offense, as they say). Seriously--this is just so aching and sad and as if that weren't enough, you throw jeopardy into the mix. Great work, as ever, DMW.



Mary

AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby tommo » Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:55 am

Oh...Tara's discovery of the journal is in itself a conundrum. The fact that she read it just opens up a whole other can of worms. Like these two really need any more troubles in their hesitant relationship. Having said that, I can totally understand Tara's curiosity to find out more about the other Tara, and by that reckoning, herself as well. But I think all she succeeded in doing was finding out about Willow and how hard it's been for her throughout the years without her own Tara.



Sigh.



You really have cranked up the angst-o-meter here. Bless you; it's gripping stuff. :)



It's in your eyes, I can tell what you're thinking; my heart is sinking too...It's no surprise, I've been watching you lately; I want to make it with you...

tommo
 


Re: Feedback

Postby Patches » Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:54 pm

Oh man, Oh man, Oh man DMW. God, where do I start? Such a gripping update, there’s so much raw emotion here, so many layers and so much meaning under the words. I love the beginning; the folding of the clothing was symbolic of creating order out of chaos, then the neatly folded pile being knocked over at the end - sigh. Smell is such a strong sense and you use it with such impact, from Willow’s journal, not remembering Tara’s scent, to Tara realizing that she couldn’t drive away the feelings. “They couldn't be driven away by the scents of freshly washed laundry or the familiar ritual of folding clothes. She felt uneasy and depressed, as if she had taken on some of the burden of grief from the book.” She can’t take for granted the everyday, the mundane chores of life. The burden of grief is both Willow’s and her own.



You play with cannon so well with the role reversal of “I am you know.” My heart rose when Willow said this, then was promptly crushed under the weight of meaning, as the scene didn’t play out as it had in the past. Maybe this is what Willow needs to understand, she need not be bound to the past – she lost Tara once, but that was another Tara, another lifetime. We always seem to go back to what we know. I am thankful that there are people in the office right now, ‘cause if there weren’t I think I’d be crying right along with Willow and Tara. I take back part of what I wrote last time when I said she would get what she deserves. Tara doesn’t deserve this. No one deserves this kind of pain and torment, not ever.



Your words are so powerful and evoke such strong emotions, your imagery is commanding. Images of blood, cold and darkness pervades this chapter, shadows and uncertainty – Dawn’s blood, Willow’s explanation of why it has to be blood, all the things blood symbolizes; life and death. “Three small words.” That phrase has so much meaning and so many contexts: who am I; I love you; Amy’s words a rhythm triad: “by my blood” “and thy name” “thee I slay” – three words, Willow’s name??? Willow’s description of herself: strong, powerful, mysterious; alone, grieving, despondent.



The final paragraph, "Looking deeply into the mirror, she said "Goodbye," whether to herself or to Tara she wasn't sure. Then she placed the black mask over her face. The candle guttered out and the image in the mirror faded to black.” Oh Willow, NO! So here we are, back at the beginning, it’s almost come full circle, and I am holding on to the belief that the pattern can be broken, the cycle can be changed, hope is not lost. I’m almost thinking that she hasn’t lost Tara; I think she hasn’t found her – yet.



GOD, you have me sitting on the edge of my seat. I’m with Antigone here – more, please oh please, oh please, oh pretty please, can we have more – SOON???? No, seriously – wait I am serious, more, more, more. :grin I can’t get enough of your writing. Realistically, however, I hope you’re enjoying your time away and would like to give you an extra special thanks for taking time out to give us this.



Cheers!!

Patches



ETA: I just have to say this about Dawn – what the hell happens if she cuts her legs shaving? “Oh darn it, darn it, darn it! There’s that pesky inter-dimensional void thingy threatening to loose chaos and the demons of hell on us– again; quick pass me the liquid band-aid bottle.” Yes, yes, I know there’s the whole ritual thingy they have to do first, but I just thought I’d try to be funny [well, I did say I was trying :lol ]







You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

Edited by: Patches at: 1/29/03 3:42:24 pm
Patches
 


Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby yana » Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:41 pm



Oy.



That doesn't bode well at all. What a chapter. I really *want* to blame Tara for running off, but she's been so patient with Willow up to this point. She stayed after Giles told her everything, knowing Willow hadn't been honest with her. I wonder what the magnitude of this argument is. To Willow, it seems like the end of the world, practically, but what about Tara? Is she just getting away because they've had an argument and she needs to be alone or is she really, as Willow thinks, leaving Willow?



And how does Amy know Willow's true name? Did I miss something?





Yana

yana
 


Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby Always E » Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:58 pm

DMW,

I am probably one of many Kittens who actually reached for the computer screen throughout this last chapter...

First, when Tara left to bring her back so she and Willow could talk, or argue, or scream, but not walk away...anything but walk away with that feeling of loving but not being loved in return.:spin

Second, when Willow said "Goodbye" and the final image of her reflection fading into blackness...I just wanted to stand in her way and not let her leave. It was as if the "blacks" that she donned were physical manifestations of the guilt, shame, and unworthiness she's feeling. I'm left with a sinking feeling of "GULP!"

Finally, I just want to say that your story is beautiful and moving in a way that pulls me into your world. I read some W&T stories and enjoy them as stories, but yours actually drags me into the words so that I feel the angst and the hope of the characters as I read. It's not as impressively stated as all your other fans, but you make Willow & Tara come to life for me and that's the highest compliment I know to give. So Thank You for this wonderful adventure...I look forward to reading more.



-E



Always E
 


Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby Grimlock72 » Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:07 pm

As much as I can understand what Tara M. did I'm still fairly pissed at her :spin . Glossing over reading Willow's diary and than demanding she says she loves her, yeah that will work. No answer would have worked in that situation, besides Tara wasn't listening but merely throwing her worries at Willow. This has to be the worst way to tell someone what you worry about.



I *was* disappointed when Willow said Tara was 'still the same'. In a normal conversation they could have talked about that since clearly Tara M. would like to be seen as herself and not a duplicate Tara L. Running away wont solve that difference though, not in the least. The only other excuse for Tara I can think would be that she's only what... 20 years old ? It would be nice if they actually asked each other questions to get answers, as opposed to using every other method available to get some half-answers.



So both insecure girls are back where they started basicly. It does make it easier for Willow to slip back into her old habits though. Esp. since Tara M. very effectivly proved Willow still needs at least some emotional shields. Trouble is that Willow doesn't have much to really fight for now, which gave her at least some advantage during the last 20 years or so.



I wonder what the price is for Amy making such an arrow. It appears to be a highlevel spell of some sort so it like comes with a price. So she still needs to utter three words *after* impact to make it work ? I would be highly surprised if Willow does not get hit then...heh. Although avoiding a single arrow shouldn't be too hard if all your senses are on high alert already. (knowing Amy she'll probably sneak around though)



Does that spell make the arrow immune to all magic by the way ? And why do I find it sooooo hard to believe Amy would know such a high level spell in the first place.... can't imagine her studying really. I wouldn't be too much surprised if Willow does know a counterspell to that arrow, would be fun to see Amy's face then, heh.



Weird, first Amy intended to make Willow give her the heart and now she's switched to wanting to kill her... wonder what made her change her mind.



How the heck do you write runes on a bolt anyway ? It's not like there's much room for any writing on the crossbow bolts *I* know :)



Ah well, on we go to patiently *cough* wait for the next update with evil Amy hopefully being nicely sucked into that void Willow mentioned. Yeah, that would be really neat : -->>: . Am I the only one who's wondering what Amy has been doing for the last 18 years ? Can't imagine she has been playing nice witch in the magic shop that long. Speaking of which.... how did she ever manage to buy/rent Giles magic shop in the first place ? It's not like he would knowingly sell it to a miss A. Madison after all :)



The ending was scary, yet touching... Willow going back into protective gear (in more ways then one) and out to at least protect Tara, while she thinks her reason for living the last 20 years has pretty much been destroyed. She's thinking a bit to gloomy for my liking.. worrysome that. I wonder what Tara is doing at that time.



Enough of my rambling already :)



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Edited by: Grimlock72 at: 1/29/03 11:36:01 pm
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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby SilverWingedNemesis » Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:51 pm

Oh my..



Well, I really don't know where to start...



This update was incredible. I've loved this story from the beginning because of it's depth of emotions. And as stated before..it seems as if it has come full circle back to the beginning...and yes, let's hope this can be broken and started anew.



I can totally understand Tara leaving...She needs to be loved for who she is..not who she was...but she is Tara.. *sighs* what a situation.. and Willow..just needs to 'see' her. *smiles*



I so love this fic...I have complete faith in you that we will see wonderful things to come.



Keep up the great work.



~NICK~

"All fear is the fear of loss. And only through that fear, can we truly love."

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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby JustSkipIt » Wed Jan 29, 2003 4:17 pm

DMW, I can't write anything intelligent right now. Too upset about RL to form words. Now this... You are incredible. Debra

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"Use your imagination not to scare yourself to death but to inspire yourself to life." - Adele Brookman

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...

Postby Rane018 » Wed Jan 29, 2003 4:49 pm

eep! that's what you're using the hebrew name for?! you sneaky kitty!



i'm all :sob tara's left her like taht and willow's so destroyed by it. and amy's never up to any good. barf on her!

"We're forgetting about the troll.

Let's pay attention to the troll." Tara, Triangle



*never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence*

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Re: The Dark Rose

Postby vmpIrslAr » Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:27 pm

O God, the angst is clenching at my heart. :shock



I feel bad for Willow. She has gone through so much, sacrficed so much. :sob



Please please update soon...

VmpIrslAr out.






"she's my everything."

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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby VampNo12 » Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:51 pm

DMW, wow, such a gut-wrenching update! I'm truly at a loss for words, (yes it can happen :) ) . Let me just say that you have such a "gift", with your use of imagery, as well as the way your writing pulls the reader into the story, making us feel a part of the "action" (in this case feeling the emotional toll of W&T believing they have lost the other, a "point of no return").



Really inner-demons (our inner-battles) are the hardest to overcome, because until we come to grips with our own fears/doubts the person can't "see" clearly. So in a sense our fears "paralyze" us prolonging the doubt, which makes communicating openly a difficult process. I also believe that in the "heat of the moment" (it being so emotionally charged) no matter what Willow said Tara wouldn't be able to truly hear her (ie Tara's belief that Willow can only love the past Tara). Of course, by the same token Willow didn't help matters with not being able to directly say "I love you" when the question was first asked (by the way I loved how you incorporated the "I am, you know" dialogue with Willow now saying these poignant words, even though the impact wasn't the same as the past).



Lastly, what resonated with me was the the symbolism of the line, ("Clean and once neatly folded clothes lay in a tangled mass by the bed."), especially when taken into context of Willow now replacing her clothes to see reflected back in the mirror the image of Willow as the "Dark Witch" (ie "Strong, powerful, mysterious. But also alone, grieving, and despondent."). Or in other words, even with Tara at her side, underneath Willow has feared she is "tainted", that her "darkness" makes it so that Tara truly can't love her, and now by seeing her reflection in the mirror her inner-most fears are seemingly confirmed. Thus, as more and more of the "black leathers" are added, hope (and "light") fall further away until it's extinguished, which was conveyed wonderfully with the lines, ("Then she placed the black mask over her face. The candle guttered out and the image in the mirror faded to black."). Add to that Willow saying, "Goodbye", (not to mention that damn Amy and what's she's up to), and I can so see you weren't kidding about the angst reaching another level. Really I'm on "pins and needles" waiting to see what happens next!

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 1/30/03 2:36:30 am
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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby FlereImsaho » Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:42 pm

This is intense. The angst warning is accurate! I can't wait to see how you bring these threads together. Why isn't love easy? Well, OK it is a little complicated when you throw in reincarnation (of only one of the two lovers!), magic, dark magic, monsters, bad people (I really don't like Amy!), friends who think they are helping... My life seems so simple right now.



Thanks DMW!

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Re: The Dark Rose

Postby sheila wt » Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:47 pm

Oh my... poor Willow... :sob I know both of them are to blame for this mess, but it just breaks my heart to see Willow like that now. After so many years searching, believing, doing anything to find her soulmate, when she finally does and open her heart again... Goddess, it could destroy anyone.



Looking at this from the outside, my first reaction was to yell at Tara, "how come you doubt Willow's love???? There's no love like that in the whole universe!!!"



But then I remember that she is right there, in the middle of everything. She just found out a bunch of pretty heavy stuff about herself. She just found love for the first time. And she is very young. Not to mention the fact that she's very scared, for her and for Willow. Scared that someone would do all that for her. Scared for not being sure that Willow won't use dark magic again. And the principal point, scared that her lover is in love with a ghost and not with her.



But I still think that Willow didn't deserve that explosion of fury at all.



And the rat has a damned magic bolt now. Great. :spin



How can I survive waiting to read the next chapter???

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"She had tasted Willow on her tongue, and she had worn Willow on her skin. There wasn't a shower in the world that could have washed that away." (Terra Firma, by Tulipp)

Edited by: sheila wt at: 1/29/03 9:48:31 pm
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Re: The Dark Rose

Postby deixs » Thu Jan 30, 2003 1:44 am

Oh my god!



I feel so sorry for both of them :sob

But I trust you in bringing them back together.



Stef :p



Willow: Hey, clothes!

Tara: Better not get used to 'em.

Willow: Yes ma'm

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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby The Inward Sea » Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:22 pm





The differences between the New Tara and the Old One are slowly unfolding in this story and in a way that add to the mix its good share of spice.









This brought flashbacks of the *Tough Love* argument previous to Tara finding Glory at the fair. But only reversed.





<[...] finally believing that she could keep something so fragile and breakable close to her.>



Nice paralell.









My nails have been recovering from your previous update, but I guess not much will be left for the next :)





I liked this update. I liked it a lot. It gave me good chills.



Sea



"The universe is an iceberg, and all that we can see and touch just the tip above a deep sea." darkmagicwillow -the Kitten-.

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Re: The Dark Rose

Postby Grimlock72 » Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:51 pm

I keep wondering what Amy did during those 18 years.



Did she stay in Sunnydale ? If so, she must have undergone a mayor make-over or Giles surely would recognize her. Heck, she must radiate waves of dark magic for Giles to snif out from MILES away :)



And another thing, I can somewhat follow why she dislikes Willow (I haste to emphasize I disagree with her reasoning but I *can* follow it)... but is that all she has been thinking about for the last 18 years?? Seems like a waste of time (and life in general), to wait 18 years for an opportunity to destory a minor town like Sunnydale. I would expect Amy to head a Wicca group at Uni so all girls would look up to her, far more her style : -->>: .



At least Willow had a purpose in life. I just have to wonder what Amy has been doing. I did mention I hate Amy in this fic right ? Just thought it nessecary to mention that :) . To be fair, I hate any realistic threat to either Willow or Tara and since Amy is the only one worth worrying over I tend to hate her quite a lot, heh.



Curious, Amy started as a victem of her mother's wish to remain young. Then she turned herself into a rat (though she seems to blame Willow for that in a twisted way) and worked herself up to... hmm, what really? She never did become something just on her own did she ? Like mother like daughter as far as magic is concerned, though I'm not sure if mommy dearest stole her magic as well or really had something of her own, whatever..... anyone got a mirror handy ??



Amy doesn't have protection-spells I guess, can I go and hit with a nice big shovel please ?? Pleeeeease ????



I'm normally not violent, really I'm not.... REALLY :)



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby Sister Bertrille » Fri Jan 31, 2003 8:15 pm

When I was little, I remember reading an hilarious advice column called “Can This Marriage Be Saved?” in Nana’s McCall’s? Redbooks? Anyway, these terribly unsuited couples would write in and unless one of them had tried to kill the other and bake his or her remains in a pie (and sometimes even then :) ), the columnist would “save the marriage” by prescribing what amounted to total personality-altering makeovers.



I started to think about that column after Chapter 20a and continue to do so now. Much of it I attribute to your creativity and skill as a writer. You have taken two well-established characters and without betraying them in the least developed them into figures whom I could very easily see behaving in heretofore unimagined (and unimaginable) ways. I suppose that at times one must wrestle with, as opposed to embrace, one’s originality when writing fan fiction.



I will give you an example. In 20a, when Tara reads:
Quote:
Yet I could still perform the resurrection, return her soul to Tara's body. Would it be saving her life or the most terrible crime I've ever committed? Would she love me if I did such a thing?
I was almost sorry that the rules of fan fiction would probably not allow Willow to make such a terrible exchange – how twisted would that story be?! But in the end I must say “almost,” because for twisted stories there’s always French literature, and because this is one marriage worth saving, ten tons of emotional baggage be damned!



Who’s afraid of the dark?



SB



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I'll Be Back

Postby darkmagicwillow » Fri Jan 31, 2003 9:23 pm

Sorry, Mary and everyone else, I'm still not ready with chapter 21, but it is off to the betas at least so there's hope of seeing it soon. (-; No promises of quick resolutions though, and I think you'll be surprised at what happens next. I'm going back home tomorrow with an annoying cold as a parting gift, but sick or not, I'll get chapter 21 out to you early next week, okay? It's the best I can do...



Thanks to everyone for the wonderful feedback (Grimmy, I loved that you came back after your initial feedback to post a whole rant about Amy *lol*). I will have detailed answers for you after I return home and feel a little better, or at least feel too bored to stay sick in bed any longer.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby Grimlock72 » Sat Feb 01, 2003 8:58 am

Get well sooooonish :) :grin . Has to suck, getting sick on vacation... now you'll need another vacation to recover, heh.



Owww.. I like surprises, can I have one like Indiana Jones vs. that Sword-fighter on the market ?? Huge amount of fun there, heh. I prefer movies where I can NOT predict most of the action 30 minutes in advance... those are rare though :(



I'm assuming it's a suprise towards good things of course, optimistic as always here. (ok, always is a bit overstated :) ). Did Amy's mom ever get out of that statue ? That would be fun.... 'hi mom' :) I doubt much love was lost between those however.



I'm not so much worried about Willow going dark again (well you know me:) ) but far more about her mindset. She pretty much thinks her world has ended, not literally of course... but she has not purpose anymore and that sustained her for quite some time. Eventually she'll hopefully realize that such is not the case, I just hope she realizes it in time.



I also hope that Tara just go to her room and cry a bit, as opposed to trying to help or understand Willow using yet another spell.



Darn, this was supposed to be a SHORT reply to wish you well (your fault for writing such an involving story, heh)... gotta run...



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Edited by: Grimlock72 at: 2/1/03 7:52:08 am
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Re: I'll Be Back

Postby The Inward Sea » Sat Feb 01, 2003 1:35 pm

Awww... get well soon. We'll wait patiently, as good kittens :)



Sea



"The universe is an iceberg, and all that we can see and touch just the tip above a deep sea." darkmagicwillow -the Kitten-.

Edited by: The Inward Sea at: 2/1/03 11:37:21 am
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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby xita » Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:32 pm

DMW, I hope you feel better.



I am still stunned by that last chapter. W/T seem to be at such polar opposites, Tara rightly so feels like her own person , unable to make the obvious connection between herself and old Tara. Willow's love can swee right to her soul, what makes Tara really Tara. And now they are at such polar opposites. And it makes me sad that Willow's lost that hope, her insecurity again making her feel as if she is unworthy of love. And now it's like she's on a suicide mission to protect Tara. And Tara's insecurity keeps her from seeing and accepting the love that is right in front of her. She's literally jealous of herself. I like the way you don't take the easy way out with these characters, that Tara isn't perfect and neither is Willow. That you can love each other deeply and still mess up all over the place.

If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead

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Re: I'll Be Back

Postby LeatherQueen » Sun Feb 02, 2003 1:21 pm

Many mea culpas for not responding sooner in the thread, DMW. But evil courses have taken over much of my life lately. Whoever said going back for your Master's is a good idea was a big liar.



Anyway, you know I loved the last chapter. :) And since I know what happens next, I suppose it would be wrong of me to taunt the poor worried kittens with my knowledge, eh?



Yes. Yes it would. Taunting is bad.



Get well soon, DMW. I know these nasty colds have been going around a lot lately, as I'm still getting over my latest. So drink lots of fluids and get some rest.





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"You earn extra points by plucking fruit to bonk them." Donkey Kong, Jr description - Atari 2600

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Chapter 20 Replies

Postby darkmagicwillow » Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:04 pm

I love you kittens. The quality of your feedback here is almost overwhelming. Thank you all so much. I'm really going to miss this discussion when the story reaches at end.



I'm feeling better if not completely well and I've got chapter 21 back so I'll start working on it tonight, trying for an update tomorrow.







funkyasian: Yes, there will be a happy ending, and there's always hope even when you're alone in the dark.



barnabasvamp: They're both in a bad place right now, with Tara leaving Willow and Willow going after the Master alone, but don't despair.



AntigoneUnbound: I don't know why inward fears are so much harder to face than outward ones; perhaps they are because in a way all fears are inside us and it somehow makes it easier to face them when we think they're outside us. I'll endeavor to get the next update out quickly. While giving birth is not a likely issue to come up for me, I'd certainly delay it for the kittens. (-;



tommo: I don't know what I'd do in Tara's situation either; I'd like to think I'd do the right thing and talk everything over with Willow, but it's easier saying that than doing it.



Patches: I originally envisioned a storm for this argument, but then I decided to do something original so I'm happy that it worked for you. You're right that neither of them deserves their pain here, and neither of them wants to hurt the other, but misunderstandings can be as painful as intentional acts of harm; however, they can be fixed. I like what you say about Willow not having found Tara yet. That makes sense.



You did get me to laugh about Dawn's "slight" problem with blood. It would be bad if there wasn't more to it than that. She'd have to live in an transdimensional bubble or something.



yana: Now that is a very good question: "And how does Amy know Willow's true name?"



Always E: I loved hearing how the story affected you physically. Thanks so much for letting me make them real for you.



Grimmy: I always enjoy reading your speculations. The arrow isn't immune to magic, but a spell enclosing one's true name cannot be stopped by the named ones own magical defences. Amy may not be a consistent student, but she has had time to learn some things. As for her original plan, nothing's necessarily changed. She's just better prepared.



Silver: Thanks. You're so right. Willow just needs to "see" Tara, and that's something she needs her intuition and feelings for, not her logical intellect.



JustSkipIt: Thanks and good luck on RL.



tiredsoul: You know, somehow I really didn't think of this moment as a cliffhanger and I don't know why. Sorry about not providing more warning about this. You're right about needing the long talk though.



Rane: You might be right, but it may not play out the way you expect. (-;



vamplsrlAr: I do too. It's hard to see her turning away from hope here.



VampNo12: I really like how deeply you see Willow here. She always been afraid that she's tainted, that she'll lose Tara again, and that's something no words will change. It's too deeply ingrained in her heart, like the familiar feel of wearing black leathers in darkness. And you see Tara too, in that she couldn't hear what Willow was saying in that moment. But it was only a moment, and no irrevocable choices have been made. Yet.



FlereImsaho: I'm glad Amy's provoking such an emotional response from my readers. She's actually become fun to write when I'm in an evil mood.



sheila wt: I understand your reaction to Tara's doubt as Willow has given everything up for Tara, but that's part of what Tara fears, giving everything up. Yet in a way that's what love is. Unconditional surrender. Giving everything you are to the other. It's scary, but you get everything back in return.



deixs: Thanks.



Sea: Thanks, and sorry about the nails. There won't be much left of them by the end, I'm afraid.



Grimmy: Amy's spent most of her life in Sunnydale, but she's a little more discreet than that, and Giles doesn't really use magic enough to sense her from a distance or even to visit the magic shop for supplies. He sold the shop when the remaining Scoobies left Sunnydale after Buffy's death. The new owner met the usual fate of magic shop owners, then Amy acquired it as a new source of potential students/victims. A couple of years later, Giles returned to Sunnydale after finding and training Spirit.



As you suggest, Amy's been directionless, taking the easy path with magic, rather than being focused on any particular goal. The more mundane magicks can be make life quite easy; if you can submit invisible homework, I imagine you can deal pretty well with the red tape of the modern world. I originally envisioned her at the campus Wicca group, perhaps as their unofficial advisor, so she did spent some time there before buying the magic shop. Perhaps the one temptation she's avoided though is having a daughter to use as her mother used her.



I actually did think about the idea that Amy was her mom for this story, having either escaped the statue or thinking that her last spell in The Witch didn't work out quite like it was assumed, but rather that Catherine was able to move her spirit into Amy's body after discorporating and pushing Amy's spirit out to the trophy.



SB: Your comment about originality in fan fiction is insightful, though at least we're more free than the writers of the official Buffy books who could never write something that deviates this much from canon. On the other hand, constraints can make you more creative like the strictures of rhyming or structure in poetry, causing you to find other words than you would have otherwise. While I was uncertain at first, more and more I'm looking forward to dealing with the challenge of such constraints in my next story, which is set more closely within the traditional framework of Buffy, and hoping that I can write around and under the story as well as other Pens writers have.



Sea: Thanks.



xita: Thanks. That's a problem with love; you can still mess things up, perhaps sometimes all the more easily because you're so afraid of what will go wrong, but I promise they will come out of this struggle all the better for having gone through it.



LeatherQueen: Thanks. No taunting the kittens though, that's my job! (-;

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

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Re: Chapter 20b: Three Small Words

Postby Patches » Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:40 pm

Hey DMW, hope you're feeling better. :)





You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

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