Wonderfalls

[kajo 2000]

The first episode can be down-loaded from Buffy.nu.

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"I want to be Byron... because I want to date young boys." Amber Benson

[seurat]

Well, it wasn't as good as the first ep - and I wasn't too thrilled with that one - but I really didn't think it was that bad. It made me laugh out loud a few times, amd I'll try it again next week. For those of you who hated it, not too worry you'll get your wish, I'm sure the show is doomed. But you know, I doubt that whatever they replace it with will be an improvement for me.

"Learning, playing and loving, and combinations thereof,are a good way to spend a lifetime. Admittedly, a difficult regimen, but nonetheless not beyond attainment.

Start with playing." - Alexei Panshin, The Thurb Revolution

[tyche]

Watched last night's episode, and I am still not remotely impressed with this show. I think I may just tune into it semi-regularly so that I can yell at the characters.

I actually think that the main reason that it's been so popular with critics is that critics generally love snarkiness and sarcasm. And 'Wonderfalls' is all snarkiness and sarcasm - that's the fricking problem, there is no emotional weight to the show whatsoever. (I also have no clue why this is being called 'the best new series on TV' in a season which produced 'Joan of Arcadia, 'Arrested Development' and the sadly cancelled 'Karen Sisco'. Hell, even 'Las Vegas' is more entertaining than this, and it's a big, silly, flashy show set in a casino.)

Unfortunately, 'Wonderfalls' so smug and self-satisfied that it's really dull to watch unless you have the exact same sense of humour as the writers - and I don't. As I've said before, the lead actress is fine, but she only ever gets to hit one note (as does everybody else in the cast) and this has the result of making her performances really shallow.

Oh yeah, and why I am not remotely surprised that an episode written by an ME alumnus featured nasty mocking of a stuttering girl?

Suddenly, playing with yourself is a scholarly pursuit. - Lucille, Arrested Development

Edited by: tyche at: 3/20/04 3:14 pm

[sam7777]

I hope Fox cancels it and keeps trying in the Friday timeslot. They may not air something "better" (though "dark Angel" was better IMHO and John Doe was a much better show on Fridays) but who knows some day we may actually get another good show like X-Files. I'd rather Fox kept trying new shows than waste the time slot on derivative stuff like "Wonderfalls". "Joan of Arcadia" and even "Tru Calling" fill this niche quite nicely. Time for something else. X-Files became a hit because it was new for it's time. Creators need to stop copying each other and bring some new ideas to the screen. If "Wonderfalls" fails, it won't be because the audience can't see what the critics see but because the audience sees a mediocre retread of "Joan of Arcadia" IMHO. The TV audience is not always wrong.

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Edited by: sam7777  at: 3/21/04 10:42 am

[emma peel]

Dammit, I miss John Doe (and Stella, if anyone remembers her on the show. ). John Doe was pretty good looking...for a guy.

I'm sick of most folks complaining about the Friday timeslots. The shows get canceled 'cauise no one watches!!!!!

[vamp xander]

I'm wondering if Jaye is a psychic who has her abilities manifesting themselves using inanimate objects.

"There will be no touching of the pendant" Halfrek

Edited by: vamp xander at: 3/22/04 9:49 am

[BBOvenGuy]

Lookie lookie what showed up in my email today. Has anyone else gotten this?

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To: Undisclosed-Recipient@,

Subject: Great new TV show...

Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:00:45 -0500



This is a request sent out to everyone in my address book.



If you are tired of reality tv and poorly written shows, check out the best (and funniest) new show I've seen this season. The ratings haven't been great yet, I'm guessing because of the graveyard time slot Fox put it in. Critics reviews have been glowing though. Please tape it if you have a life (unlike me) and actually go out on Fridays. Don't worry about missing the first two episodes, each one stands alone so far. Also, reruns have been played on Thursdays at 8 or 9.



Wonderfalls on Fox, Fridays 9PM/8C



What if one day inanimate animal objects began talking to you? If that seems crazy, just imagine how JAYE TYLER feels!



Set against the backdrop of Niagara Falls, WONDERFALLS is a distinctive one-hour family dramedy about underachieving 20-something souvenir shop worker JAYE TYLER (Caroline Dhavernas). Her life is forever changed when inanimate figures – including toys, cartoons and anything in the form of an animal – begin to talk to her. In each episode, the creatures’ cryptic messages set into motion a chain of unpredictable events that invariably lead JAYE into the lives of others in need.



Created by Bryan Fuller and Todd Holland, and executive-produced by Fuller, Holland and Tim Minear, WONDERFALLS focuses on Jaye as she meddles in, muddles up and ultimately betters her own life and the lives of herself and the eclectic variety of strangers who cross her path.



As Jaye tries to make sense of her newfound abilities, she soon discovers that the inanimate animal figures tend to become especially vocal when she interacts with her eccentric family of overachievers. From her high-maintenance mother KAREN (Diana Scarwid) and outspoken father DARRIN (William Sadler) to her seemingly straight-laced sister SHARON (Katie Finneran) and her sarcastic brother AARON (Lee Pace), each episode finds Jaye pulled in several directions … to resolve the family matter at hand, or suffer the consequences of her little “friends.”



Throughout the series’ bizarre situations and madcap adventures, Jaye seeks advice from her best buddy MAHANDRA (Tracie Thoms) and befriends ERIC (Tyron Leitso), a local bartender who tries to help answer her lingering questions. Is the universe conspiring against her? Is this real or just her imagination? Should she struggle with fate or surrender to destiny? Whatever the outcome, one thing is for certain – Jaye will discover that the world around her is a magical place and that the seemingly random events in her life are actually all part of something much greater.



WONDERFALLS is produced by 20th Century Fox Television and Regency Television. The series is executive-produced and created by Fuller and Holland.

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Can you say desperation? I think you can...

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

Edited by: BBOvenGuy  at: 3/25/04 6:58 pm

[Gatito Grande]

Um, no (guess I'm not that well connected). Who do *you* think sent it Bob?



GG And now they're doing a God ep. I smell a really poor comparison w/ JofA coming! Out

[BBOvenGuy]

I didn't recognize the name of the person who sent it, but I'm not really surprised they sent me something. I do have a certain reputation among Whedonites, you know...

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

Edited by: BBOvenGuy  at: 3/26/04 8:24 am

[sam7777]

Yeah that's sad and pathetic. Personally, I think Fox should renew their show with a young woman who hears voices telling her to do things: "Tru Calling" which is recently showing signs of ratings life.

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[BBOvenGuy]

Yahoo!News reports that FOX is "temporarily" moving Wonderfalls to Thursdays at 9:00, pairing it with Tru Calling. The reality show Forever Eden, which had been on Thursdays at 9, will move to Fridays at 9, where it will be paired by another FOX reality show, Playing It Straight.



I guess trying to pick up the Joan of Arcadia audience didn't work out so well...

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

[xita]

That's very amusing. I think they are hoping for better things since Tru Calling has recently gained more viewers.

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"Trust is a risk masquerading as a promise."

[tyche]

Here's another article on the time slot change. Looks like they are trying to piggyback off 'Tru Calling', which has obviously been more successful among the teen audience.

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tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|87145|1|,00.html

'Wonderfalls' on April 1 -- No Foolin'

By Kate O'Hare

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - "We are on next Thursday, April 1 [at 9 p.m. ET]," says Todd Holland, co-creator (with Bryan Fuller) of FOX's dramedy "Wonderfalls," "and now is the time for all good fans to come to the aid of our show. This is the moment of truth. Those ratings numbers will mean everything to us.

"FOX has seen some small portion of the light, and they're airing us as a one-time-only thing, a brand-new episode. They're doing a bit of a night switch without officially moving us, to test the waters."

Caroline Dhavernas stars in the quirky one-hour series as Jaye Tyler, an overeducated, underemployed and disaffected gift-shop clerk in Niagara Falls, N.Y. She is forced to connect with the world and her overachieving family when animal figurines (like the "Pink Flamingos" in the April 1 episode) start giving her cryptic messages. Forced by the insistent figurines to carry out seemingly meaningless instructions, Jaye slowly realizes the interconnectedness of fate and her part in it.



"Wonderfalls" struggled in its premiere slot on Friday, March 12, at 9 p.m. ET, despite an outpouring of positive critical reaction. Holland experienced something very different when his last FOX series, "Malcolm in the Middle," made its debut.

"As much as it was a great pilot, great script and cast," he says, "'Malcolm' was also given the single best time slot FOX had to offer, Sunday night at 8:30 p.m. ET, right after 'The Simpsons,' and was promoted straight out of the Super Bowl.

"You choose to give a show your glory time slot because you believe in it. You choose to give it one of your worst time slots because your belief isn't quite as strong. Clearly it's a message that, despite their love, there is mixed feeling at the network level."

But, Holland says, there was good news to be found in a repeat of the "Wonderfalls" premiere on Thursday, March 18, following the also low-rated sci-fi drama "Tru Calling," which stars Eliza Dushku ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer" .

"FOX finds redemption in their teen viewers of 'Tru Calling,'" Holland says. "Teens keep that show afloat. We held our 70-80 percent of our teen audience across the hour between 'Tru' and the 'Wonderfalls' pilot repeat.

"Our feeling is, Thursday night at 9 clearly shows that 'Tru Calling' and 'Wonderfalls' are a great team. One's sort of dark and sweet, and the other one's bright and sour. They're two great tastes that taste great together."

The reality series "Forever Eden," which normally airs after "Tru," will air in the Friday, 9 p.m. ET, slot on April 2.

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Edited by: tyche at: 3/29/04 11:13 am

[BBOvenGuy]

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Forced by the insistent figurines to carry out seemingly meaningless instructions, Jaye slowly realizes the interconnectedness of fate and her part in it.

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See, this is where those inevitable comparisons to Joan of Arcadia come in, and this is where Wonderfalls suffers most by those comparisons. Jaye really is forced - as in, the talking animal statues all start singing at her and won't shut up until she does what they want. Joan, on the other hand, is never forced - in fact, God has told her several times that she doesn't have to carry out the "assignments" she's been given. And with God there in person, Joan is able to talk about the "assignments" and what they mean. On the other hand, Jaye is left to flounder around on her own.

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

Edited by: BBOvenGuy  at: 3/29/04 12:25 pm

[seurat]

Bob, are you saying that the fact that Jaye has to be "forced" to do the bidding of these mysterious voices she hears makes her a less likeable character than Joan and therefore harder to write, or are you saying that it makes it a less-deserving show because Jaye is not as good a person as Joan? If you mean the former I can see your point, but if you mean the latter I disagree completely. I would rather watch the evolution of a flawed character every time, although I realize that often puts me in the minority. So be it.



I haven't been posting in this thread lately and likely won't in the future because this has turned into the We-hate-Wonderfalls thread and I had hoped that it would be a discussion of the good and bad parts of each ep, as most of our other discussion threads have been. For the record then, I still like some aspects of the show and am still watching in hopes it gets better and survives, although the last is looking very unlikely.

"Learning, playing and loving, and combinations thereof,are a good way to spend a lifetime. Admittedly, a difficult regimen, but nonetheless not beyond attainment.

Start with playing." - Alexei Panshin, The Thurb Revolution

Edited by: seurat at: 3/29/04 1:57 pm

[Hemiola]

Please don't leave the thread, seurat, for I am also a fan of this show and plan to stick with it as long as it's on.



Personally, I find it to be both cute and funny.



It seems to me that a lot of the negativity comes from those who insist on comparing "Wonderfalls" to "Joan of Arcadia" and "Tru Calling". Now, it just so happens that I am a fan of both of these other series, but comparing them to "Wonderfalls" this early in the game is pointless. To be given a fair chance, the show should be watched on an a priori basis.

Edited by: Hemiola at: 3/29/04 2:31 pm

[BBOvenGuy]

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Bob, are you saying that the fact that Jaye has to be "forced" to do the bidding of these mysterious voices she hears makes her a less likeable character than Joan and therefore harder to write, or are you saying that it makes it a less-deserving show because Jaye is not as good a person as Joan?

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What I'm saying is that the interpersonal relationship between God and Joan gives JoA an extra dimension that Wonderfalls doesn't have. On Wonderfalls, it's a case of, "Do this inexplicable thing or we'll nag you to death, no discussion just do it," while on JoA it's "Here's what I'd like you to do, and here's what it means." The relative likeability or goodness of the characters was not intended to be part of my point at all. Joan Girardi certainly has her own flaws and weaknesses, as do her family and friends. JoA wouldn't be nearly as interesting if they didn't.



I know there are some people who want to see Wonderfalls die no matter what - I am not one of them. I'm not quite sure how to react to some of the marketing tactics that are being used on behalf of the show, including the spam that I personally received. I also have problems with the show because I think it tries too hard to be hip and snarky, and I think the talking animal gimmick is going to wear itself out (and in fact is already starting to). But I don't think the show is unwatchable. I've seen other shows that got off to much worse starts and ended up being fairly decent. (Star Trek: TNG, if you want to go to the extreme, took two and a half years before it really started to click.)



I think it would be nice if Wonderfalls succeeded - but my thinking that doesn't negate what I see as pretty hefty warning flags about the way the show's being written.

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

Edited by: BBOvenGuy  at: 3/29/04 3:35 pm

[seurat]

Bob, I'm glad to hear you're not making a value judgement on the worthiness of the characters. But...do you really thinK God and Joan have much of an interpersonal relationship? I mean there's a human manifestation there, and they do have back and forth conversations so certainly it ranks ahead of Jaye's instructions from plastic toys. But I don't see it as going much farther than that, at least not yet. And as for explaining why she is being asked to do things, I can't recall there's been much of that either. Usually the reason becomes evident to Joan after the fact. But this isn't the JOA thread, so I'll stop talking about it here.



Since I haven't commented on the marketing stunts used by Wonderfalls before, I'll just say that although it doesn't reflect well on them and it's too bad you got that spam (who needs more of that?), the truth is that if it was my creation and I thought it was going down the tubes I'd probably do most of the same things myself to try to save it. And I'd be kicking myself afterward if I didn't try them, esp. if I really believed in the show.



Thanks Hem for your post, I'm glad to know I'm not the only person here who watches this show with some enjoyment. The majority viewpoint here wasn't going to sway my take on the show, but it was making me feel there was no point in reading the thread anymore or posting anything positive about it. BTW, do you still want to be a Willowhand? Because I believe a certain all-powerful mod who is probably reading this post ( Xita) could easily place you in the exalted realm of Sassy Eggs. If you asked her nicely, that is.

"Learning, playing and loving, and combinations thereof,are a good way to spend a lifetime. Admittedly, a difficult regimen, but nonetheless not beyond attainment.

Start with playing." - Alexei Panshin, The Thurb Revolution

Edited by: seurat at: 3/29/04 4:58 pm

[Gatito Grande]

[Off-topic comment: Bob, considering my *second favorite* (2nd only to the incomparable "Best of Both Worlds" ) episode, "The Measure of a Man" was like the fourth episode of S2, gotta disagree w/ you about TNG's upward curve (though granted, there were still a lot of clunkers in S1 and 2)]



Returning to topic: I maintain (on the basis of the first 2 eps---forgot to watch last week) that Jaye's problem is lack of heart. Note: this is not a question of whether she's a "better person" or not vis-a-vis Joan on JoA. There are lots of horrible characters (or rather, horrible people IRL, who make interesting characters) w/ heart, and vice-versa (think of "insufferable saints" ). The question for me, is what kind of person would Jaye be if she didn't have hunks of plastic yapping at her. Because if she didn't have it---a heart, a soul, a conscience---before, talking lions won't give it to her after.



Joan has the benefit of being able to reveal her heart, via her conversations w/ God (even though God frequently p*sses me off, as I have just noted on the JoA thread). Jaye is not so lucky. The talking figurines function more as an alarm clock of sorts, than person w/ whom one can dialogue.



GG Then again, Jaye could reveal her character by showing *us* the audience what it's like to have barking statuary, of which she can't make sense. In the first two eps, I didn't notice that happening. I'll try to give the show another try, as it does have the promising cast/setting I spoke of earlier---maybe the show will finally hook me. Out

[Hemiola]

Hi seurat!

Yes, I will stick with the show as long as it's on, since I get a kick out of its (to use an ancient "hippie" term from the '60s ) vibe.



"Willowhand" Status--I always assumed that this was due to an insufficient number of posts on my part. Doesn't this go "by the numbers"?

[tyche]

Apparently the Futon Critic is reporting that the time slot switch to Thursday will be permanent.

So, if Wonderfalls gets cancelled, they'll still be trotting out the time slot excuse, because Fox didn't put it in the Thursday slot to begin with...

Did I ask you to dress like a Republican? - Grace, Joan of Arcadia

[BBOvenGuy]

9:00 Thursday is hardly a prime spot in the schedule. CSI and The Apprentice are already there. In fact, ABC just moved Stephen King's Kingdom Hospital to that same spot, and Yahoo!News called that move "throwing it to the ratings wolves."

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

[seurat]

I thought everyone understood that this time slot is death valley, it always has been in the past. I'm hoping they'll run the remainder of the 13 that have been shot, and then see how badly it did. Any statement from the producers that they welcome the change is just trying to put a positive spin on the news, and as I have said before I don't have any objection to them trying to do that.It is just barely possible that the show will get enough of the right demographic to survive.



Hem, it is indeed all about the numbers. And you have 'em. Yes, you too can be Sassy Eggs. No small thing, let me tell you.

"Learning, playing and loving, and combinations thereof,are a good way to spend a lifetime. Admittedly, a difficult regimen, but nonetheless not beyond attainment.

Start with playing." - Alexei Panshin, The Thurb Revolution

[tyche]

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From Tvguide.com Ask Matt

Question: I share your enthusiasm for Curb Your Enthusiasm, Scrubs and Joan of Arcadia. These series all share (at times) a pessimism about the human condition that the creators turn into well-written humor. Joan (especially) turns her often apathetic "whatever" attitude into positive results, with a little help from her friend. This brings me to Wonderfalls. The lead character’s snarky, superior, "I’m so cool because I don’t care" attitude is a total turnoff to me. Her "quirky," "wacky" family exists only in the world of TV, and is in stark contrast to Joan’s TV family. This show is being embraced by critics, but if it dies a well-deserved death, it isn’t because the great unwashed masses can’t recognize quality television. I sampled this show and found it insufferably smug. - Jim B.

Matt: Thanks for this opposing view. Funny, but when I first watched the original Wonderfalls pilot last summer, I had much the same reaction: She was too overbearingly smug, and the show itself (the family, in particular) much too precious. Maybe because of all the disappointments I’ve weathered this season between then and now (Karen Sisco, Boomtown, Ed, you name it), when I more recently returned to watch a handful of episodes of Wonderfalls, I found myself unexpectedly charmed. I love the offbeat setting of Niagara Falls, I find Jaye more exasperated with life than smug about it, and while I concede your point that the zaniness of Jaye’s family is the sort of thing you only find on TV, I’ve come to think TV could use a few more shows with oddball characters. Without a doubt Wonderfalls is uneven - of the episodes I’ve seen, some are noticeably more satisfying than others - but I respect its ambition and am glad that in such a dispiriting TV year, someone’s still trying. The fact that a number of people will find the show off-putting is not a surprise. I can’t imagine feeling neutral to it. You’ll either love it or hate it, and is that such a bad thing, really?

Question: Wonderfalls isn’t a bad show but the main character seems so much like a clone of the main character in the vastly superior Showtime series Dead like Me. It really looks like they gave the lead actress of Wonderfalls some tapes of Dead like Me and told her to give her best impression of Ellen Muth. I know that the creator of Dead like Me is also the creator of Wonderfalls, but stealing ideas from yourself is still stealing. - Sven L.

Matt: And here’s where I admit that Dead Like Me was, to me, a complete turnoff. Ellen Muth’s performance was like curdled milk: sour, unpleasant and left a bitter aftertaste. Talk about a smug, self-impressed series. But that’s just me. Quite a few of this column’s correspondents enjoyed it. And for those who’ve written in wondering about Dead like Me’s whereabouts, a second season was ordered, but hasn’t been scheduled yet to my knowledge. I’m guessing it will return in the summer.

Question: Doesn’t it seem logical for Fox to move Wonderfalls to Thursdays, after Tru Calling? The encore of the first episode which aired in that time period did better than the first time it aired on Friday. Both shows have the same audience and would help each other. There is one other plus too: Forever Eden and Playing It Straight could die on Fridays. This is Fox, which is known not for doing the logical thing, but for killing shows. Any thoughts? - John

Matt: Friday or Thursday, both are probably death traps for Wonderfalls. But you’re right that according to the ratings, a slightly larger audience tuned in to check it out on Thursday, and it’s somewhat more compatible with the I-hear-dead-people conceit of Tru Calling. So yes, it would make sense to give that programming strategy a shot. And I continue to refuse to believe anyone would want to see Forever Eden on any night of the week. What a dud.

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Did I ask you to dress like a Republican? - Grace, Joan of Arcadia

[Gatito Grande]

This is an interesting article (dialogue), tyche. I watched tonight's ep (have to say, putting it after Tru does make some sense), and found myself internally having the same dialogue as here: liking v. not liking. Smug v. charming. "Precious" v. pleasantly oddball. It's frustrating to me, because I don't know whether to give it more time or bail.



GG The goods are Good, the Bads are bad. Out



Anyone else think the "Does it bother you I've been w/ men?" drama seemed out of place/character (for Sharon)? [And let me get this straight (as it were): Sharon's a virgin? Or she's been w/ women before? Because I thought she was Just Out, and if she hasn't been w/ men either, that would make her a virgin, no? ]

[BytrSuite]

I really enjoyed last night's episode. Love the hell out of Sharon. Beth is pretty cool, too. I loved their conversation. I could clearly see Sharon going from joking around to freaking out a little to being serious. Excellent acting.



Loved the dad's last line about getting lesbian porn on basic cable.



I like a lot of the quotes this show comes up with.



The last scene with the dad was excellent, too. Showed very clearly that even though Jaye doesn't get along with her family a lot of the time, she loves them and they love her. I like that.



ETA: ooh, I forgot, I loved how Jaye covered for Sharon in the parking lot. Carpool. Nice.

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Bender: (shouting) Shut the hell up!

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[theatremouse]

I LOVE kari matchett. she's excellent.



i also enjoyed yesterday's wonderfalls. really amusing.



sharon's the funniest part of the show.

[seurat]

Yeah, I liked that scene too. I'm starting to like the Dad, enjoyed seeing him playing cards and ordering pizza in the hospital. I still have issues with the Mom though.



There were several moments in this ep that made me laugh aloud, I really liked some of the stuff between Jaye's friend Majandra and their old school enemy. Overall this was probably my favorite ep so far.



And yet, I can see why some people really don't like the show. Why they have to make Jaye so negative about everything I'll never understand. The yearbook comments bit was an okay joke I guess, but really she has no interests at all, no hobbies, nothing? I'm sure over time - whatever time they have - they'll build up the character a bit, bit I think it was a mistake to make her so unlikeable at the start.

"Life's complications and frustrations/they disappear when the music starts playing/I found a place where it feels alright/I hear a record and it opened my eyes/do you remember what the music meant?" - Speakers Push Air, Pretty Girls Make Graves

[theatremouse]

trudat.



she has a philosophy degree from brown. ok, fine joke that everyone makes: overeducated and unemployable.

but if she's so overeducated, aside from the being unemployable/jaded as the character is supposed to be, she kinda should be a little more interesting.... one would think she'd be really smart, and have some thoughts aside from "freaky thing happened, now i'm freaking out, the universe is messing with me, but what does it mean?"



it was good with the nun how she called in her brother the theology guy. (although i didnt like that episode so much) but what happens with all her knowledge? where'd it go? why does none of this philosophical stuff she's read so much of ever come to mind?



this is coming from a person who likes the show, however, there is a big gaping hole in her characterization.



still i'm holding out. i bet the show will keep getting better.

[Warduke]

Bad news guys. From AICN...

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WONDERFALLS Cancelled!!



I am – Hercules!!



Well, turns out that rumor about “Wondefalls” moving permanently to Thursdays was complete horseshit, to say the least.



Here’s series overseer Tim Minear with the hilarious news:



Well, not sure what to tell ya'll -- but we're cancelled. Effective at once. The cow creamer will be silent this Thursday and forever forward. Once we recover from the not-shock, Todd, Bryan and I will see if there's some venue in which to air the remaining episodes. As I have said from the start, the thirteen taken as a whole tell a story and go to a place, so a run of this "limited" series would not be unsatisfying elsewhere. It's a question as to whether the studio will want to invest in a DVD release of a failed series. Maybe the episodes will sit in a warehouse someplace with that sled and the arc of the covenant.



Thanks for all the support and enthusiasm.



Tim



Man, hopefully you'll all get to see what you missed one day. “Tru Calling,” however? Still pumping it out.

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