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Michael Welch interview

Postby tyche » Sat May 01, 2004 10:31 pm

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Luke of 'Arcadia'

By Kate O'Hare

Life isn't easy for teenagers -- especially the geeks -- but 15-year-old science whiz Luke Girardi (Michael Welch) of CBS' Friday-night drama "Joan of Arcadia," surely deserves some sort of special dispensation.

His police-chief father's (Joe Mantegna) job is in peril; his mother (Mary Steenburgen) struggles to hold the family together; his older brother, Kevin (Jason Ritter), is a paraplegic; and his 16-year-old sister, Joan (Amber Tamblyn), talks to God (and God talks back).

OK, Luke doesn't know about that last one, but Joan's secret chats with the Almighty have definitely thrown a weirdness wrench into an already volatile family dynamic.

"When I read [the pilot]," Welch, 16, says, "I didn't see Luke as a geek at all. Personally, I don't really like to play geeks. I read the breakdown [of the characters] before I read the script, and the breakdown described him as this geeky, loner, nerdy kind of kid, and I'm like, 'Man, this doesn't sound cool at all.'

"Then I actually read the script, and I really just saw him as a regular teenager who's very sarcastic and knows who he is, and happens to be a science genius. I went in there and played it like that. I didn't play it like a geek. I just played the material how I felt it was written, and they liked it. In watching the show, though, I come off totally geeky. I do. I come off like the biggest geek in the world, but that's not my intention."

In the family, Luke's the one to whom Joan has come closest to confessing her secret when she, in an early episode, asked him whether science allowed for the existence of God. His carefully reasoned, physics-based answer reflected many of series' creator Barbara Hall's own thoughts on the subject.

During an early press conference for the show, Hall said, "My own spiritual beliefs, and my belief approaching the show, come from science, come from physics. I'm kind of a physics buff. I told my writing staff that they had to read these physics books, and they laughed.

"My tag on the show is that it's about physics and metaphysics because you can't have one without the other."

"She's probably right," Welch says. "Barbara did her research. She read every physics book there is to read before doing this thing, and she wouldn't say anything in the show that's not true. It's a cool concept. It raises questions about God and the universe and all that stuff."

People talk to God every day, but reports of instances where God is said to talk back -- or to even begin the conversation -- can be unsettling to many people.

Welch says, "I'd had people come up to me, having different interpretations. Some people think God is just her [Joan's] subconscious. It depends. I've had atheists tell me that they love this show."

One side effect of Joan's adventures on Luke's life is the introduction of new friends. At God's urging, Joan entered advanced-placement chemistry, which put her in the same class as Luke and his best pal, Friedman (Aaron Himelstein). There, she befriended the shy, artistic Adam Rove (Christopher Marquette), and the outspoken, sexually ambiguous Grace Polk (Becky Wahlstrom).

In a recent episode, Luke asked Grace to be his partner in a science-fair project, setting off romantic speculation.

"Without giving away too much of the story," Welch says, "I will tell you that Luke and Grace have some interesting things coming up. They do. There is something going on there, but I can't tell you much more."

Although it's not stated in the script, Welch has a theory about what Luke sees in Grace.

"What I came up with is that Grace is a very strong person. She's a strong woman, and Luke is really into that. She knows who she is; she knows where she is. She's a very secure person about herself. She doesn't care what anyone thinks, and that's what Luke really admires about her."

The AP Chem subplot also has been beneficial for Welch's off-screen social life. "Chris Marquette, who plays Adam, he's been a good friend of mine for six years. Now we're working together every week.

"Aaron, who plays Friedman, I met through Chris, and now he's one of my good friends as well, and I'm working with him. It's fun, man."

There's also an element of synchronicity in how Welch got the role. During pilot season last year, he was cast in an episode of Sci Fi Channel's "Stargate: SG-1," playing a younger version of the character portrayed by series star Richard Dean Anderson.

"Everyone who represents me wanted me to turn down that that part because it was right in the middle of pilot season, and they didn't want me to miss out on a good project," Welch says. "But I take the philosophy of, 'Just take what's given to you, go with it and see what happens.' I did, flew to Canada. I came back, and by then, pilot season was pretty much over. At the tail end comes 'Joan of Arcadia.'

"So who knows? Maybe if I had turned down 'Stargate,' I could have gotten something else, and I'm really glad that I didn't."

Only Hall knows if Joan will one day confess her conversations with God, but if she did tell Luke, Welch speculates, "Luke would probably go through all the logical explanations first, and then he would believe her. Luke is very left-brained, and he's very scientific, but at the same time he's open to all kinds of possibilities."

He could even rebel. "I'm not saying this is going to happen," Welch says, "but what would happen if Luke and Grace start going out? What if Grace affects Luke in that way, and he becomes more like her? There are a million things that could happen with this character and the show and the story."




What kind of novels do you write: fiction or nonfiction? - US immigration officer to Ian McEwan

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Re: Michael Welch interview

Postby Cicca » Sun May 02, 2004 12:20 am

Great interview! Thanks for sharing it.

And lovely Amber av too :)

Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive?

Cicca
 


This Friday's episode

Postby tyche » Mon May 03, 2004 1:37 pm

Description from cbs.com:

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Friday, May 7, 8PM ET/PT

"Vanity, Thy Name is Human"



Joan takes a cosmetics class, per God’s request. Meanwhile, Kevin doesn’t react well to crossing paths with the last girlfriend he dated before his disabling accident.

Shelley Long ("Cheers";) guest stars.




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5/7 Ep

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri May 07, 2004 9:18 pm

Have to say, pretty mediocre ep tonight. :happy



GG I really didn't like *any* of the Girardis this week. And can we please, PLEASE get more Grace? :sigh Out

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby theatremouse » Fri May 07, 2004 9:28 pm

My only thoughts on tonight:



Grace says: I look Good.



Me thinks: Yup. That You Do.

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby lilkkgirl4u » Sat May 08, 2004 2:55 pm

ya..the quality of the show has gone down in the last few eps...

does anyone else think they need more of grace on the show?

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby seurat » Sat May 08, 2004 4:11 pm

Raising my hand... Yes, they need way, way more of Grace. I would probably still watch the show if she wasn't in it, but I wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much. I did enjoy seeing Kimberly Mculloch (sp?) in this one, otherwise it was pretty blah.

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby urnofosiris » Sat May 08, 2004 5:24 pm

They need to make her a regular, put her in the credits already. Grace is a great character and the actress has done a superb job in making every second worthwhile. Storywise this episode was not all that, but I liked it well enough, though Shelly Long seemed wasted in it. Kevin was being particularily obnoxious for the umpteenth time, he´s an asshole, he can stop proving it every single episode. I had missed the chem teacher :heart , she can be in every episode as far as I am concerned and so should Glynis. I really like her, with or without the make-up.

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby Gatito Grande » Sun May 09, 2004 1:33 am

Yeah, G, I forgot to mention the Chem teacher: when she whips that pointer, she always gives me a thrill. :punish



And my liking of Glynis is what I meant, when I said I didn't like any Girardis this week (i.e. Luke's dissing of her. Idiot!)



GG Don't get me wrong: it's not that I dislike Christopher Marquette. But Adam's just not nearly as compelling a character as Grace, and I don't see why CM should get Special Guest Star billing, and Becky Wahlstrom not get it. :miff Up her credits, and give her screen time accordingly! :pray Out

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby tyche » Sun May 09, 2004 6:37 pm

Dr G, I think that Kevin acts like an idiot a lot of the time, but I think that his behaviour in this episode (though obnoxious) was actually pretty understandable. He didn't knowh (till Joan told him) that his ex had come to see him in hospital at all. Nor did he remember dumping her. Therefore, given that he thought that she dumped him because of his accident, I think that when he saw her again, he reacted the exact same way that 99% of people would react in the same situation. And he had the decency to apologise, which he wouldn't have done if he was a real asshole.



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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby gspiggott » Sun May 09, 2004 8:05 pm

I thought they were overeaching a bit with this last one. More of Adam and all his vagueness isn't necessarily a good thing, and having Grace sidelined to making quips about Hebrew school is a waste of a strong character.Especially in an episode about trying to be who you are since Grace is comfortable with herself. I really felt for Glynis though, but I thought the mother burning the painting had a false ring. To go from inspiration and a new direction to being burned because it was too much trouble for the family didn't seem true, especially since she kept the paintings she did after being raped years before.

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby urnofosiris » Sun May 09, 2004 10:16 pm

Tyche, I can understand his anger and hurt, but I cannot understand the very nasty way in which he expressed it. When she came up to him in that store she did not strike me as a person who would abandon someone she cares for so easily, but he did not hesitate to humiliate her in front of his brother and sister. He seems like the type that shoots first and asks questions later. He never even gave her a chance to talk to him. He did not ask her why she never came to see him before jumping down her throat and being so deliberately hurtful. This is not the first time he has acted this way, he treated his new girlfriend like shit as well before they got together and after as well. Judging from what his ex-girlfriend told us about him now and Luke´s past experiences, he was an asshole in the past, and as I see it that has not changed at all.



That said, I find it hard to believe that it took this long for anyone to fill him in on the fact that his girlfriend (because his family must have assumed she still was, unless she told them he had dumped her) had visted him in the hospital but was not allowed to see him in the ICU and apparently he never asked.

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby Kieli » Mon May 10, 2004 6:23 am

I have to agree with Garfield as far as Kevin is concerned. He sounds like he was a true dickhead even before his accident. His father's apparent idol worship of his son most possibly made him difficult to live with. After the accident, he probably had one big pity party for himself....not surprising considering how he's treated the last gf. I'm so beyond feeling sorry for him. Any sympathy I could muster for him left quite a few episodes ago...he's possibly in his twenties now. He needs to grow the hell up and stop acting like a five year old, that includes his relationships with people in general.



This episode grated on my nerves....Diana thought it was "fair ta middlin'" but all of that shallowness had me rolling my eyes. I could kind of understand where Joan was coming from with Adam not noticing her (or so it seemed....interesting that when Joan went off on her rant, Grace went running after her....) but Luke annoyed me...it seemed to me like he was much happier with Glynis not feeling good about herself. So the girl put on a little makeup and started to really have some self-esteem for a change? What the hell was Luke's problem with that? And Will, I wanted to smack around. Apparently, he needs to be on a leash 24/7 otherwise his swelled head might float him off into the atmosphere.



Overall, this ep was seriously lacking. It's always cool to see Goth God and Cheerleader God had me cracking up.


Time flies by when the Devil drives.
It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the end.

Kieli
 


Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby tyche » Mon May 10, 2004 1:27 pm

Um, Kevin is 19. It's been mentioned in scripts more than once. So frankly I think it's fairly pointless to slam him on the basis that he should be acting like he's in his 20s, because he's not.

I actually find his bitterness and anger fairly understandable (though annoying), because it's pretty obvious that he hasn't fully come to terms with his accident yet, especially since it robbed him of the only thing he was really good at doing. If, for example, he had been as geeky as Luke, he probably wouldn't have had as much difficulty coming to terms with it. Personally, I find it more interesting and realistic (and much less cliched) to see a disabled character who's still pissed off about being disabled, rather than nobly suffering and practically earning a halo because they're so lovely to everyone. (If Kevin was like that, 'Joan' would be a bit too much like 'Seventh Heaven' for my taste.) I suspect that the writing of Kevin is going to evolve somewhat over time, because (being 19) he's still pretty young and stupid in a lot of ways. Also, if you observe the writing on this show, even characters who initially seem one-note or unsympathetic (like Iris, for instance) usually evolve over time. Nobody thought that Grace would end up being such an important and complex character when she first appeared, for example. So I think it's way too soon to write off any of the characters you don't like.

What kind of novels do you write: fiction or nonfiction? - US immigration officer to Ian McEwan

Edited by: tyche at: 5/10/04 12:37 pm
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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon May 10, 2004 1:48 pm

The thing about JoA is that it's frighteningly and painfully dead-on accurate about a lot of human weaknesses. I don't hate the characters for what they do - I cringe because I remember how easy it can be to make the same mistakes.



I understood why Helen burned the painting. It was a "new direction" for her, but it was the wrong direction, and trying to keep going down that blind alley was messing with her head. It happens sometimes. I know it's happened to me.

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby Kieli » Mon May 10, 2004 1:57 pm

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So I think it's way too soon to write off any of the characters you don't like.


*shrug* Guess that's why it's called an opinion and not fact. I have reasons why I dislike Kevin. I disagree that his acting out is "realistic". There are plenty of 19 yr olds that aren't like him; even his disability doesn't excuse his behaviour and he doesn't have to "suffer nobly" in order to have simple manners. Crippled or not, if my brother had mouthed off to my mother and his ex-gf like that, she'd have bitch slapped him in the head for being a cad. Period. I wrote Kevin off a long time ago and his continuing behaviour hasn't shocked me or made me revise my opinion of the character. But that's just my opinion.


Time flies by when the Devil drives.
It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the end.

Kieli
 


Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby urnofosiris » Mon May 10, 2004 4:01 pm

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Also, if you observe the writing on this show, even characters who initially seem one-note or unsympathetic (like Iris, for instance) usually evolve over time. Nobody thought that Grace would end up being such an important and complex character when she first appeared, for example. So I think it's way too soon to write off any of the characters you don't like.




I guess it depends on how you see it, I never saw Iris as unsympathetic at all. The early posts in this thread show that some people did focus on Grace right away and she sparked an extended discussion. She is the one character that was pretty well established from the first scene she had, not because she was so easy to read but because she is the opposite of easy (to me anyway). She is a very interesting and complex character. Yet instead of getting more screentime she seems to be getting less and less.



Kevin on the other hand I do not see as evolving at all. Early on he was acting whiny and bratty and he is still doing it. He does not seem to be change at all. He does not have to be a saint and suffer in silence, but there is a difference between that and acting like an ass 90% of the time. His consistent behavior leads me to believe that this is who he was, is and will be, but the writers may feel free to prove me wrong. I have not written him off in a sense that I think I will never be able to like him. I do warm up to him when he is acting like a big brother with Joan and he seems to be managing it with Luke better, but as a whole I am not at all tempted to like him. If that changes fine, if not, fine as well. I don´t care either way, though I would much rather see less of him if that meant getting to see more of Grace.



Edited by: DrG at: 5/10/04 3:02 pm
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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby Cicca » Thu May 13, 2004 1:34 pm

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but Luke annoyed me...it seemed to me like he was much happier with Glynis not feeling good about herself. So the girl put on a little makeup and started to really have some self-esteem for a change? What the hell was Luke's problem with that?




I'm not sure why, but I saw Luke's behaviour as feeling like Glynis was growing beyond him and was becoming more like one of the "in-crowd". He was feeling insecure about it and figured she'd be happier with someone popular or at least flirting with the football team. Either way, he wasn't really letting her make her own decision. Silly Luke!

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby The Rose24 » Fri May 14, 2004 7:28 pm

Loving Adam and Joan more and more.



Why does he keep calling her Jane though?

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby lilkkgirl4u » Fri May 14, 2004 11:51 pm

did anybody else see the preview for next weeK?

the season finale works weird..and makes me wonder how they're gonna continue next season? and why is cute guy talking to joan's mother ?

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Re:

Postby allykat » Sat May 15, 2004 11:07 am

Great ep!

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby BBOvenGuy » Sat May 15, 2004 12:13 pm

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the season finale works weird..and makes me wonder how they're gonna continue next season? and why is cute guy talking to joan's mother?




I said this before, but it bears repeating - I'm absolutely certain that things will turn out not to be what they seem. If Joan really has been hallucinating the entire season, then there would be no more show. JoA has already been picked up for next season, so they're not going to trash the format.



As for Helen and the cute guy, some spoilers posted here might explain that.

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby lilkkgirl4u » Sun May 16, 2004 12:28 am

oh my god!

thank you for the spoiler link! i had no idea..i was merely wondering how they would tie up the loose ends at the end season.

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby xita » Sun May 16, 2004 8:07 pm

I was stuck on the song at the end , Cyndi's La Vie En Rose and I realized I had the album :heart .

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby tyche » Thu May 20, 2004 1:32 pm

Looks like the actress who plays Iris might not be around as much next season - she's on a show which got picked up for midseason by the WB:

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From Aintitcool.com:

“Shacking Up” is a sitcom about a 25-year-old med school dropout who returns home to discover his hot mom is sleeping with someone younger than he is. It’s from screenwriters David Garrett & Jason Ward (“Corky Romano”), writer-producers Jamie JFK and John Etting (“The Jamie JFK Experiment”) and writer-producer Michael Landworthy (“Zoe, Duncan, Jack and Jane,” “8 Simple Rules ...”). It stars Fran Drescher (“Good Morning, Miami”), Ben Feldman (star of a failed pilot titled “The Mayor”), Ryan McPartlin (“Passions”), Branden Williams (“Crossroads”) and Misti Traya (Iris on “Joan of Arcadia”).


What kind of novels do you write: fiction or nonfiction? - US immigration officer to Ian McEwan

tyche
 


Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby The Rose24 » Fri May 21, 2004 8:52 pm

Great finale! I hate they left it off there though. I hope Joan will get better.



Do you all still think Grace is gay?



Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


Edited by: The Rose24  at: 5/21/04 7:54 pm
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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby lilkkgirl4u » Fri May 21, 2004 11:49 pm

i really did like what happened..with all of the hallucinations, did this happen, type stuff

but what direction do you think they will go for next season?

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby Puff » Sat May 22, 2004 10:03 am

I thought the finale was interesting, a lot of questions about whether God exists and was it a hallucination on Joan's part. They have set up a lot of problems to be solved for next season. Oh and next time I have a hospital stay I want a room as big as Joans :)



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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby tyche » Tue May 25, 2004 9:09 pm

I've never seen a hospital room with a sofa before. Maybe they gave Joan special treatment because of Will's police connections...

I'm not sure what direction the show will take next year, but I think the fact that Cute Guy God appeared at the end (and Joan didn't realise he was there) is a pretty big hint that God will still be around in some form.

Also, I was kind of surprised that they didn't use the Suzanne Vega song 'Penitent' - I was hoping they would, because the lyrics fit Joan's situation in this episode really well.

What kind of novels do you write: fiction or nonfiction? - US immigration officer to Ian McEwan

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Re: 5/7 Ep

Postby Kieli » Wed May 26, 2004 7:37 am

I had mixed reactions about Grace and Luke....I guess I can see her with someone other than Luke (and not necessarily Joan ;) )...he just doesn't seem her type.



However, I couldn't help but notice Grace's reaction to Joan's admission that she did indeed love Adam. It looked somewhat wistful or even resigned. Maybe she's bi and has this "Well if I can't have one Girardi, have the other." Who knows? The ending? Kind of lame for me. But then again, I'm miffed about most of the season finales of my favourite shows this week. Not one of them didn't suck beyond the telling.


Time flies by when the Devil drives.
It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the end.

Kieli
 

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