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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Warduke » Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:30 pm

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'Return of the King' Earns Five BAFTAs



By MATT WOLF, Associated Press Writer



LONDON - Fantasy epic "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" was named best film at the British Academy Film Awards on Sunday, while "Lost in Translation" co-stars Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson took the top acting honors.       



"The Return of the King" was nominated for 12 awards, known as BAFTAs, and won five: best picture, cinematography, adapted screenplay and special effects, as well as film of the year as voted by the public.



In accepting the prize for best film, New Zealand-born director Peter Jackson honored the trilogy written by Briton J.R.R. Tolkien.



"We were a bunch of Kiwis and some Australians" who brought to the screen "one of Britain's most beloved books — a fantastic property," Jackson said.



The third installment in the film trilogy is nominated for 11 Academy Awards, which will be held Feb. 29. The British awards have become an important pre-Oscar stop since being moved to before the Academy Awards.



"The Return of the King" beat Anthony Minghella's Civil War saga "Cold Mountain," Sofia Coppola's quirky "Lost In Translation," Tim Burton's whimsical "Big Fish" and Peter Weir's seafaring saga "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" to take the best-film prize from the British Academy of Film and Television Arts.



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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:12 am

The Oscars are on February 29. I hope Peter Jackson cleans up. With the Bafta gfor best pic and the DGA award for best director, things are looking very good.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Warduke » Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:09 pm

From IMDb...



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Return of the King' Rings Up $1 Billion



The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King has become the second film in history to earn more than $1 billion worldwide, reaching that level during its tenth week of release, one week faster than Titanic (which went on to earn $1.8 billion). According to its distributor, New Line Cinema, the film's total stood at $1,005,380,412 through Sunday. The results were announced even as the domestic box office experienced a deep swoon, falling 21 percent behind results for the comparable week a year ago. Although four new films made their debuts, not one earned so much as $10 million.



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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:35 pm

Ah it's always nice when a movie genre that I love does well. LOTR is a great trilogy and deserves the boffo box office and critical acclaim. The two rarely go together.



The 2004 Academy Award Nominees on DVD
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Best Picture:



The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Formal announcement on March 8, rumored two-disc release in May, four-disc set in September.
Hope it's true cuz it woud be 2months before the expected November release. Woo Hoo.



ETA: I read somehwere else but can't find the link now that the whole extended trilogy will be eleven hours total.

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Oscar sweep!

Postby Warduke » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:00 pm

WOO HOO!!!



11 Oscar's and the big one, best picture!



And congrats to Peter Jackson for getting best director, very well deserved!


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Re: ROTK

Postby Hemiola » Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:31 am

YES!!!!!!! Triumph! Triumph! Triumph! :applause



At last fantasy is no longer relegated to the category of "genre" film. At last the titanic labor of seven years is given due recognition (not to mention the titanic labor of JRRT:) ).



I still have a little "twinge" of disappointment that there was no Best Supporting Actor for Sean Astin, and no "special recognition" award for the achievement of Andy Serkis, but I can console myself that the careers of both of these talented individuals are now solidly underway:applause .



I think I'll be in an "up" mood for the rest of the day:party !





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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:24 am

I loved Peter Jackson's quip about the F-word (fantasy) not being blipped by the 5 second delay. Finally the Oscars are rightly bestowed on a great film. I wish Astin has gotten a nod but still a great night for LOTR.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby urnofosiris » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:42 am

I am bummed that the oscars always start at ungodly hours, for me anyway, this year I wanted to watch it live, but having to get up early for work sort of made that impossible (it started 2 am here). Why can't they give out the damn things on a saturday. Anyway, I am very happy that LoTR got the recognition it is due. I will try and catch a rerun of the event.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Sheridan » Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:46 pm

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I loved Peter Jackson's quip about the F-word (fantasy) not being blipped by the 5 second delay.


Yeah Sam but somewhere, in a galaxy far far away perhaps, a certain other director is probably cursing and kicking the furniture.:)

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:28 am

Oh yeah. Lucas may be rich but Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh have 6 oscars between them. And have I said I love Sir Ian. Openly gay and knighted. He so rocks.



Lord of the Rings stars wear lucky charms to the Oscars
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Lord of the Rings: Return of the King's Oscars sweep was helped along with the green gemstone necklaces the castmembers wore to the ceremony.



The movie picked up all of its 11 Academy Award nominations, including Best Director for Peter Jackson and Best Movie on Sunday night. And stars Sir Ian McKellen, Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan attended the show proudly wearing their lucky accessories - which had to be given to them by somebody else to make the charm work.



Sean Astin said, "I was given mine by Orlando Bloom. And that makes me the envy of a few million women."



McKellen added, "And a few million men!"
Go to the link and check out the picture of Sir Ian. I wondered what that cool pendant was.



And this article has interesting Peter jackson trivia (for one he's my height):

11 things you must know about Peter Jackso

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Cicca » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:00 pm

Yes, I love Ian McKellan! I loved him in Cold Comfort Farm even though I didn't really realize it was him. heehee

Then Gods and Monsters made me a fan. Definitely.

As for envying Sean Astin for being given his greenstone by Orlando Bloom, well yeah. But there's also some envying Orlando for giving it to Sean. :grin



As for those 11 things about Peter Jackson, I'm still swooning at the thought of Naomi Watts in King Kong. Set in 1933? Oh YUM!

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:17 pm

Movie news has been such a drag of late vut finally there is some good news. looks like the ROTK DVD will be released earlier this year:

www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,13650,00.html?tnews
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This King is quickly expanding his domain.



On the heels of last month's Oscar coronation in which The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King pulled off a historic 11-for-11 sweep, New Line has announced plans to bring the final chapter in Peter Jackson's adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's epic fantasy saga to home video on May 25, months ahead of schedule.



The two previous installments, The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers, were both released in August.



Matt Lasorsa, senior veep of marketing at New Line, says that the bumped-up release was due in part to King being the final film in the trilogy. Unlike its predecessors, which featured teasers of the subsequent theatrical releases, King won't need to be strategically launched at the end of summer to hold over viewers until December, when each of the Rings flicks opened theatrically.
This gives me hope that the rumor that the extended edition will be out in Spetember is true. In any case, the extended releases will be the same as the boxed set:
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New Line is also beginning work on a trilogy box set, which the studio hopes to release in two to three years for those who prefer to buy all the films at once; however, it is unlikely the set will include any new material.



"We don't want to create any buyer's remorse," explains Lasorsa, who adds that the upcoming King release will include a special sleeve that can accommodate all three films, so fans can make their own box sets.
Peter Jackson is still trying to get the rights to "The Hobbit":

Rights issue 'delays Hobbit film'
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Oscar-winning director Peter Jackson cannot film The Hobbit until legal problems are resolved between two movie studios, he said.



Jackson said that while New Line Cinema owns the rights to make the Lord of the Rings prequel, MGM has the rights to distribute it.



"Their lawyers are going to have a huge amount of fun over the next few years trying to work it all out," he said.



Jackson is currently remaking monster film King Kong, due out in 2005.



His final Lord of the Rings film, The Return of the King, won 11 Oscars last week, including best director.
Hopefully MGM will see the light and let Jacskon make "The Hobbit".



ETA: The Lord of the Rngs is truly a film classic IMHO. I belive that these films will continue to be talked about 30 years from now.





The Book Review: Lord of the Rings- Return of the King
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Anyone who’s not been living under a rock (or in a hobbit-hovel) for the past few months knows that the final installment of the ‘Lord of the Rings trilogy’ made box office history in December, taking in over $125 million in its first 5 days (US totals alone). Not only these totals but the film itself is nothing short of remarkable.



When word got out about the LOTR project in the late 90’s, many diehard Tolkien fans were worried that the film adaptation would be pulled off clumsily, tastelessly, or just wrong-headedly. Yet not even staring at the endless list of credits following the movie can really give the viewer a sense of the monumentally complex achievement here. From special effects to costumes to fight scenes and, of course, spectacular natural scenery, ‘The Return of the King’ delivers a truly unique experience that more than lives up to the challenges set for it by fans. Sure, there are those who say, ‘it’s not like in the book’! but that is to be expected when comparing the requirements and presentation of the two genres. The important thing here is not the differences but the similarities, and perhaps even the way that the LOTR moves vividly brings to life the dark and weighty themes Tolkien contemplated in his writing.



When even independent filmmakers began praising the film, it came as further confirmation that here was not simply another technically-generated blockbuster. Actually, it was the development of characters and range of emotions depicted in the acting- as well as all the rest- that convinced critics the LOTR was bound to be a classic.
Peter Jackson not only applied his vision to a classic but did it without didding the fans whose fan club even got a film credit If you listen to the commentary tracks you can see that Peter, Fran and Phillippa aganized over what to put in and take out and change. They gave fans what they wanted.

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Pre-order Return of the King!!!

Postby Jennpurr » Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:46 pm

OOooooh, I'm surprised no one has posted about this yet. YEP... the wait is finally over. Return of the King is available for pre-order. It says it will be released on May 25th.



YAY!!! I so can't wait! Have fun.



:applause :eatme



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Postby Iamyouknowyours » Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:06 pm

Dr. G don't kill me.



I like Frodo!



But Sam and Legolas are my favorite characters. Sam because he's loyal and brave and so damn lovable, and Legolas because he's frickin' cool and so incredibly hot that I would make an exception and switch teams for him and him alone :)



Smiegel reminds me of one of those cats with no hair. Ugly but lovable. Gollum is awesome but gives me a major case of the wiggins.



No throwing Frodo in the fire!



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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Gatito Grande » Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:42 am

I had fun watching Fellowship and Two Towers back-to-back tonight (having now taped 2 outta 3 LOTR flicks via the Starz Free Preview Weekends).



The great part about watching at home, is that as often as I want I can yell "Kiss Him! Kiss Him!" whenever Frodo and Sam "share a moment." :p



I'd only seen TT once, in the theater: I didn't realize how much I'd forgotten (like the extremely humorous warg-orc-warg "sandwich" which falls on poor Gimli). I spotted more Xena alums (John "Hrothgar" Leigh as the sold-out Rohan lieutentant---who switches back when Theoden recovers). Even more impressed by Andy Serkis as Gollum/Smeagol (I really don't think the different camera angles---I mean, GCI perspectives!---was necessary for their "dialogues": Serkis captures the split personality through voice and mannerisms alone).



Most important, I could linger long and slowly on Eowyn :drool (again sorry that Miranda Otto wasn't present for the Oscar coronation of ROTK, when she stole that film!)



GG Still angry about "the Impugning of Faramir" that Jackson did. :miff Out

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Cicca » Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:09 am

I agree that it would've been great to see Miranda Otto at the Oscars. I'm going to assume that she was busy filming a movie somewhere. Much better excuse than Viggo's! Silly Viggo! Napping at a friend's house...



And now for my being biased... If anyone would like to go vote at the Canadian Space channel's awards, please do so!

Go here and click on the link for Spaceys awards. There are some interesting choices in there.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Wed May 05, 2004 10:53 pm

I can't wait for the DVD release of the extended edition in November. I'll prolly have to rent out the regular release in May. Filmforce has more rumors on the extended DVD set:

DVD News Of The Week: 4/30
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New Line's Senior Vice President of Marketing, Matt Lasorsa was recently interviewed by TheOneRing.net and had this to say about LotR on DVD.



He said that because of award season earlier this year, Peter Jackson was away from New Zealand and could not cut an extended version of the film, hence the late delivery of RotK. Plus, the cast and crew were scattered all over the world, so it took longer to get everyone together for the extras.



Among the new scenes in the Extended Edition of Return of the King are: the story of Faramir is shown in greater detail, there are returning characters and new characters, such as Saruman after the flooding of Isengard and the Mouth of Sauron at the Black Gate. Much of the new footage contains extra dialogue and action to further elaborate on each character's personal journey.



A Gift Set will be revealed in July.



Finally, if there is ever a super duper trilogy box set with all three extended editions, it will be "at least 2 years away - 2006 or beyond." They want to use never-before-seen content, and until The Return of the King EE is done, they won't know what they have.
I'm happy that LOTR was PG-13 and not full of gore and violence so we could take the kids. For example, I can't see what whipping Gollum for ten minutes in slow mo for his torture scene in Fellowship would have added to the story. Peter Jackson has said that the boxed set of 3 films will be the extended editions but frankly if they put more scenes in the boxed set, I will probably get that too.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby urnofosiris » Thu May 06, 2004 12:03 am

I literally cannot wait for the extended version. I am bursting with curiosity to see these missing scenes and I do mean missing scenes, because I really missed them in the cinematic version.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby sam7777 » Thu May 06, 2004 5:03 pm

Yep I can't wait either. This one will be a keeper.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby urnofosiris » Mon May 31, 2004 9:37 am

Dudes, I did not know it was out on DVD already. I had not been paying attention, so I was very pleasantly surprised when I walked into an Amsterdam recordshop today. I am gonna watch myself the Return of the King tonight on my plasma TV with surround sound. :party

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Re: Pre-order Return of the King!!!

Postby Gatito Grande » Mon May 31, 2004 2:35 pm

Is this the Director's Cut ("Extended Version", whatever)? Really wanna hear what was left out on the big screen (esp. re Eowyn and Faramir)!



GG Po' DVD-free me . . . :sigh Out

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Re: Pre-order Return of the King!!!

Postby Warduke » Mon May 31, 2004 2:39 pm

Nope, it's just the theatrical version.



Although I can't wait for the EE version, it's great to watch this amazing movie again. And now comes the wait for the one everybody's been waiting for.


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Re: Pre-order Return of the King!!!

Postby urnofosiris » Mon May 31, 2004 5:38 pm

Unfortunately it is not the extended edition. I really, really hope we will not have to wait till november for that. I just watched it again and I realize how wrong (yes it´s wrong I say) it is to not have the confrontation with Saruman in the theatrical version. You can even see the sequence has been hacked up and that stuff is missing, even if you have not read the book, it´s like *blink* cut to Gandalf telling Treebeard to guard Saruman and that is that. Ugh, I can think of quite a few other scenes that could have been cut instead. I also miss the scenes in the houses of healing between Aragorn and Eowyn and Eowyn and Faramir. They have earned some closure. Anyway, I trust it will all be rectified in the extended edition. Both previous parts were much the better for it.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby WebWarlock » Mon May 31, 2004 8:35 pm

Yup.



I watched it again last night. My brother-in-law got a copy.

Sure it was a tiny screen, and he got the full-screen version (not the wide-screen) but it still rocked!



SOOOO can't wait for the extended verison.



Might watch all three one after the other, but that is an iron-butt marathon.



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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby Munchkin » Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:31 pm

Since the last two theatrical DVDs featured a "Sneak Preview" of their Extended versions, I had hoped that by renting RotK I'd see the the same as well. Unfortunately, there wasn't one, nor was there any "new" footage I hadn't already seen before (bar the clip of the Legolas/Gimli drinking game at Edoras in the "National Geographic" special on the 2nd disc). And that was a frickin' disappointment.



As for the movie itself, after being reminded of Saruman's glaring absence, I just skipped ahead to the Eowyn/Witch-King battle (good times :drool ) and tuned out. Because as Dr. G mentioned above, losing Saruman was just wrong for three reasons I can think of:



1) He is Gandalf's real arch-enemy, which makes a final confrontation between them essential, as it brings their conflict full-circle from the "stronger" Saruman bullying and imprisoning the "weaker" Gandalf in FotR, the now evenly-matched "White Wizards" separately mustering their respective armies to destroy/save the people of Rohan at Helm's Deep in TTT, and (according to the book, at least) the victorious Gandalf humbling the disgraced Saruman by resisting his nemesis' deadliest weapon - The Voice of Saruman - then robbing him of his remaining powers by breaking his staff.



2) It horribly unbalances the structure and coherence of not only the Isengard scene (a valuable and dangerous object like the Palantir is found in the water outside the tower with no explanation?) but the rest of the movie itself which results in many key scenes being edited down or jettisoned altogether. Like the Palantir itself, a helpful narrative tool used to reveal the weakness of Denethor and the strength of Aragorn, which is completely forgotten after it's used to jumpstart the main story arc of the Seige of Minas Tirith by ensnaring Pippin. Or the mysterious disappearance of Gandalf's staff en route to save Faramir from being burned alive by Denethor, the fate of which explains exactly what the Witch-King meant in saying that he'd "break" the wizard. Or the "heroes riding to confront the Enemy" scene of Isengard that's revisited with the Mouth of Sauron's arrival at the Black Gate in which their previous resistance against Saruman's lies are reversed by their believing the MoS's lie this time around with a show of "proof" (again, drawn from the book).



3) It's just plain wrong to disrespect Christopher Lee, who is both a legend in the film world and the most ardent Tolkien fan out of the entire cast (who proudly admits to reading the books once every year). If not for that "other" (prequel) trilogy's final chapter not being due out until next year after the Extended RotK DVD's release, it would've been more frustrating to have Lee's villianous role in that movie being treated *better* by a glorified toymaker like George Lucas than an actual filmmaker like Peter Jackson, whose own additions to previously released work are far more important and enjoyable than the other guy's self-indulgent revisionist bull$#!+ (i.e. "Greedo firing first").



Having said that, I cannot bring myself to watch RotK again in full until it's Extended. Because as far as I'm concerned, the "theatrical" cut won't exist for me after that happens. Still, if I had to personally chose between keeping only Saruman or Eowyn/Witchking, the wizard would lose every time. Because you should never mess with Eowyn, ever. But that's just me.

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:06 pm

No contest about chosing between Saruman and Eowyn. None at all, and not just because her slaying of the Witch King is so essential that it could never have been left out. I bought the DVD and watched it mostly for her sake and because I love to watch the destruction of Barad-dur. The theatrical version won´t exist for me either once the extended DVD comes out. I have not watched the previous parts unextended after I got the extended DVD and I never will again.



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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby dulcinea » Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:57 pm

I was trying to hold out until the extended edition, like I did for the other 2 parts, but I couldn't. And because I'm a completist, I had to buy the original versions of the first 2 parts as well - which I haven't seen since I saw them at the movies.

So on Saturday, my flatmate and I sat down for a LOTR marathon. All three film release versions. I didn't think I could do it, but I survived.

Although I did keep thinking "hey, that bit is missing"..."what happened to the bit with Treebeard" forgetting that I wasn't watching the extended version...

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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby WebWarlock » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:13 pm

Well I got my mother-in-law the all three regular versions for Mother's day. But the Extended versions (the ONLY versions) are mine.



I just showed my wife the Gollum MTV movie awards easter egg on my TTT disc and laughed our asses off.



So who has re-read the books since watching all three?



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Re: The Lord of the Rings

Postby urnofosiris » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:20 am

I started to reread the book during the Two Towers but I stopped because I became too annoyed with some of the changes and that threatened to lessen my enjoyment of the movies. I will reread the book again after I have watched the extended edition. I can finally put it in it´s seperate place, the book has elements I don´t like, the movie has changes I don´t like. I´ll ignore the minusses as much as possible.

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Re: Pre-order Return of the King!!!

Postby WebWarlock » Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:06 am

I am lookign foreward myslef to seeing the changes (from the book) with new eyes.



Imagine who they could have cast for Tom Bombadil for example (for some reason Tom Baker springs to mind) or how Jackson *might* have done the scouraging of the Shire.



Now will some one PLEASE do a big screen treatment for the Elric Saga?!?



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