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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby Sheridan » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:50 pm

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I'd like to see some speculative SciFi rather than just another show set in space be it on a starship or battlestar or whatever.


Well then I would still recommend Galactica, there are some very specualtive plot strands in there, especially since the Cylons believe they're on a mission from god...

If they do decide to another Star Trek they could do far worse than look at Peter David's 'New Frontier' books, being both Star Trek and yet a little different from the other potential franchises.

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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby sam7777 » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:59 pm

Sheridan: My bro caught an ep of BG and found it to be too much like the original which neither of us liked. I also don't care for dark and gritty. I'll continue to give it a pass. Speculative to me is tuff like "The Quite Earth" or "Gattaca". Action space scifi shows leave my eyes glazed. The idea of continuing Trek along the idea of the New Frontier books is promising. It would be great if they could get someone like Peter David involved.

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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby sheila wt » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:09 pm

I think I am the only one who's really sad Enterprise is cancelled... :(



I think they started a little slow, but now it was getting really good. I was looking forward to the next seasons. I was never much into ST, I think I've watched about 10 episodes from all series before Enterprise (not counting the original series). I watch Battlestar Galactica also and, although I'm enjoying it, IMHO Enterprise is much better.





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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby Hemiola » Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:22 pm

No, sheilawt, you are not the only one who is sad about it: see my post above.



I was truly delighted with last night's (Friday, 2/25) episode, because it finally addressed one of the most glaring discontinuities between the original series and the movies/subsequent series: why the Klingons of the original series look so much more human!!!!!! At last we know why (although, of course, it's actually because the original series did not have a substantial budget for elaborate facial appliances:lol ).



A real shame that they're cancelling the series. I wonder if they will resolve the question of this mysterious "security section" that Malcolm was working for before "Enterprise" ends.....?:hmm



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Spike TV might come to "Enterprise's" rescue

Postby sam7777 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:31 pm

Don't Spike `Enterprise' just yet!
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There may yet be voyages left for UPN's sci-fi series ``Star Trek: Enterprise.''

On Spike TV.

``It would definitely be something we would look at, and we know how devoted the show's fans are,'' said Spike TV spokeswoman Debra Fazio.

The ``Star Trek'' spinoff (tonight at 8 on WSBK, Ch. 38) is slated to air its last episode in May. But die-hard fans hope to pull off something new: Raise enough money to fund its fifth season.

The price? Nearly $30 million.

Don't laugh. According to Bay State resident Tom Moore, one of the co-founders of the TrekUnited.com project, his group has raised more than $3 million in just a couple of weeks.



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The project moved into warp speed this week when ``three anonymous donors who work in the aerospace field made an official pledge of $1 million each to help fund the show,'' Moore said.

The donors weren't just ``Trekkies'' (hard-core fans of the series); they had their own motives for the contributions.

``They are people who want to explore space and privatize the space program, and they feel that `Enterprise' is an inspirational show that benefits that goal as well,'' Moore said.

How did a Bay Stater who works as a network administrator for a $60 million-a-year building supply company (he wouldn't name his employer) suddenly end up heading an international campaign to save the Paramount series?

``I'm a longtime science-fiction fan, and not just `Star Trek.' I even like all those shows on the Sci Fi Channel that are on opposite `Enterprise,' '' he said.

``I've been on different (online) `Star Trek' message boards for a while, and when I found out they were trying to save the show, I decided to jump on board.''

But can his group save the series? Moore said several Fortune 500 companies also are interested in the project and that ``more help is on the way.

``I don't know how a company can ignore over $3 million in pledges to bring back a show,'' he said. ``No one has ever done that before. The only one like it I know of was a drive to bring back `Farscape,' and that raised $375,000, I believe. We've raised almost 10 times that amount already.

``All we want is for Paramount to find a way to bring the show back,'' he said.

A UPN spokesperson said yesterday the network's decision to cancel ``Enterprise'' is final. A Sci Fi Channel spokesperson said it has no interest in the show at this time.

But Spike TV might hold the dilithium crystals to keep the show going. The channel already holds the rights to reruns of ``Star Trek: The Next Generation'' and ``Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.''


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Re: Spike TV might come to "Enterprise's" rescue

Postby BBOvenGuy » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:37 pm

Egads, Spike TV? Cancellation might be more honorable. :rolleyes



The Toronto Star has an article about SF fandom in general, but it leads with the effort to save Enterprise and includes some quotes by Jolene Blalock. And much to my surprise, she's not very complimentary about the show. She describes the upcoming series finale as "appalling."

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Re: Spike TV might come to "Enterprise's" rescue

Postby BBOvenGuy » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:17 pm

Well, according to Ain't It Cool News:



Rumors persist that we will learn in the finale that the four seasons of "Enterprise" are nothing more than a holonovel being viewed by Will Riker and Deanna Troi on the Enterprise-D.

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Re: Spike TV might come to "Enterprise's" rescue

Postby seurat » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:18 pm

Bob, I read the same article here this weekend. I thought that her comment that the last ep was "appalling" referred to the events that take place in the finale and not to the quality of writing. She is quite uncomplimentary about last year's scripts but makes a point of saying that they were far better this season. Anyway, interesting article and nice to hear that Jolene is optimistic about her future. Also got a kick out of Katie Sakhoff's comments and the fact that she can already afford to buy a home because of the success of Battlestar.



As for the Spike TV story, seems pretty unlikely doesn't it?

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Re: Spike TV might come to "Enterprise's" rescue

Postby seurat » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:53 pm

:shock



Well, if that's accurate maybe she did mean the last script was appallingly bad. Can't judge until we see it, but it sounds horrendously awful.

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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby Sheridan » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:30 am

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A real shame that they're cancelling the series. I wonder if they will resolve the question of this mysterious "security section" that Malcolm was working for before "Enterprise" ends.....?


Actually
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they mention that they were established under 'Section 31' of the Starfleet Charter, and Section 31 were still around at the time of DS9, Dr Bashir had several run ins with them.

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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby Hemiola » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:26 pm

Many thanks for the info, Sheridan!:wave



I guess I'm really gonna have to save up and buy the "DS9" DVDs!!;)



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Re: Enterprise cancelled

Postby sam7777 » Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:14 am

Spike Backs Off Enterprise Talk
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A spokeswoman for Spike TV backed off comments that the cable network was considering picking up UPN's canceled Star Trek: Enterprise in an interview with SCI FI Wire. The Boston Herald had quoted Debra Fazio saying: "It would definitely be something we would look at, and we know how devoted the show's fans are."



But Fazio clarified her remarks on March 8. "The quote was misconstrued," she said in an interview. "We can't say yes or no until it's proposed to the network, and that hasn't happened yet." Fazio added: "That's not something that we're actively going out and pursuing."



UPN announced earlier that it is canceling the low-rated Enterprise at the end of the current fourth season. No other network has stepped forward to pick up the show, and executive producer Rick Berman previously said that he was not interested in shopping the series around.



Fans, meanwhile, have been actively campaigning to revive the series for a fifth season, going so far as to raise funds to finance a fifth season themselves. They claim pledges of more than $3 million toward their goal of $36 million.


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Re: Star Trek

Postby Hemiola » Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:18 am

Well, having viewed the first part of "Through a mirror, darkly" (it was shown last night [i.e. Saturday, 4/23] in my market), I have to say that I am in geek/nerd heaven!:) We Trekkies just love these delicious references to the universe of the original series (in this case, "Mirror, Mirror" and "The Tholian Web")--and next week they'll be wearing the uniforms of the 1960s (**does the dance of joy**).

Why oh why couldn't the show have been like this during its first two seasons? If it had been, there would never been a problem with the loyalty of Trekkie/Trekker viewers like me!

an interesting aside: there is no doubt in my mind that the "dystopic universe" of "The Wish" and "Doppelgangland" would not have been conceived if Whedon had not seen "Mirror, Mirror" first!;)
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Sheridan » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:44 pm

Why oh why couldn't the show have been like this during its first two seasons? If it had been, there would never been a problem with the loyalty of Trekkie/Trekker viewers like me!

Well for the first two seasons the writers basically regarded the back story of the Star Trek universe as an alabatross around their necks and they did everything they could to get away from it, so you get the Temporal cold war and then the Xindi story in S3. Now its too late it has hit its stride and embraced its past. Did like the latest ep but that opening was just so wrong, in a good way... :-D
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Re: Star Trek

Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:53 pm

More details are coming out about the finale. Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis are indeed in it, although they're not going to reveal that the entire series has been nothing but a holonovel. Only the finale itself is a holonovel, as Troi recommends that Riker put himself into a recreation of the Enterprise crew's adventure in order to help reach some kind of decision.

And apparently, there was a lot of grumbling among the Enterprise cast members about having TNG characters butting in on their final hour...
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Sheridan » Sun May 01, 2005 4:28 am

Only the finale itself is a holonovel, as Troi recommends that Riker put himself into a recreation of the Enterprise crew's adventure in order to help reach some kind of decision.

Hmmm, as it happens Pocket Books have started a new series based around Riker's new ship USS Titan, and they have one coming out called 'Articles of the Federation' so there could be a connection there, though I can't imagine UPN going to the trouble just for a series of books.
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Re: Star Trek

Postby CaptMurdock » Mon May 02, 2005 6:41 pm

I saw part 2 of "In a Mirror, Darkly," on Friday. I am still geeking out.

Having seen Empress Sato take command at the end, I'm now more determined to eventually write the MU W/T Trek uber-fic.

Screw UPN (and Paramount). Star Trek, like W/T, belongs to the fans now.
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Re: Star Trek

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon May 02, 2005 7:29 pm

Yes, Empress Sato was a lot of fun. I'm a bit disturbed, however, by the fact that that's the second time in a month that Enterprise has done the "seemingly helpless sex-object women are really in charge because of the way they wield their sexuality against helpless men" stories. It's not a good trend. :happy
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Re: Star Trek

Postby sam7777 » Tue May 03, 2005 9:41 am

The ending had a nice twist. The Mirror two parter was fun and easy to watch since I haven't seen much of this season beside's the opening two eps. I still find the characters to be a bit dull even in their evil forms. Scott Bakula's conception of playing his evil self seemed to be acting constipated the whole time. Still it was nice to see original Trek stuff even if it does point out how the Enterprise series tech does not look less advainced that that of the original series. I'm skipping the next one but do plan to catch the series finale. For the last couple of seasons I have been catching the first and last eps and I'd like to see how this series ends.
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Hemiola » Sun May 08, 2005 7:41 am

Well, it was geek/nerd heaven time for me again last night (Saturday, May 7). If this is truly the end, they are sending the series off in magnificent style, with splendid performances from Harry Groener and Peter Weller :party .

So...it looks like they are changing one long-standing bit of "Trek" backstory--I always thought that Spock was supposed to be very first Vulcan-human hybrid. In the original series, this was supposed to be one of his prime motivations for joining Starfleet, since he felt that he did not "fit in" on either Earth or on Vulcan. Of course, we still have to find out whether or not this child survives....:eek
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Hemiola » Sat May 14, 2005 2:16 pm

So it's over. I am experiencing major pangs over the thought of a TV universe without a new Star Trek series**sniff**

Much sadness over the deaths of Trip :sob and little Elizabeth :sob . It was great to end on the founding of the Federation--but I would have liked to have heard Archer's speech (I wondered if it would be on the level of some of the truly great "Trek" speeches, such as Kirk's "Risk is our business" speech).

I have to agree with the sentiments of some cast members about the "instrusion" of Riker and Troi into the final episode--strictly speaking they weren't necessary. Marina Sirtis still looks fabulous, but Jonathan Frakes is looking a little...um...chunky since his glory days as Riker on TNG.

Very cute when Shran's daughter called Archer a "Pink Skin"--given the cicumstances (Archer had just saved her life, after all), I would have liked to have heard Shran say something like "Now, Sweetie, the correct term is Terran".:lol
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Re: Star Trek - One to Beam Out

Postby Twisted Minstrel » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:29 pm

Jimmy Doohan, "Scotty" passed away today at age 85.

I first met Jimmy Doohan in 1988 when he was promoting the video release of Star Trek VI - The Voyage Home. He was a lovely, funny, blunt man with a big heart. He will be missed.

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Re: Star Trek

Postby Ben Varkentine » Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:23 pm

Here's an odd piece of infomation...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-lad ... _5857.html

The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-boggling statistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, "all but one" has been "a hard-core Trekkie."...the Toronto detectives claim that the connection is undeniable.

In fact, Star Trek paraphernalia has so routinely been found at the homes of the pedophiles they've arrested that it has become a gruesome joke in the squad room. (On the wall, there is a Star Trek poster with the detectives' faces replacing those of the crew members). This does not mean that watching Star Trek makes you a pedophile. It does mean that if you're a pedophile, odds are you've watched a lot of Star Trek.
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Sheridan » Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:22 pm

The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-boggling statistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, "all but one" has been "a hard-core Trekkie."...the Toronto detectives claim that the connection is undeniable.


I clicked the link on the Huffington page to the LA times site and surprise surprise there is only one story listed for the last two years mentioning the Toronto sex crimes unit, no mention of star trek, didn't buy the whole article but I kind of think it might have made the headline. Try pedophiles and star trek together as search terms shows a blank, star trek and toronto? Zip, nada. if anyone can turn up the original article then I'll stand corrected but right now I think this one goes under internet myths.

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Scrolled further down the Huffington page and found this:
It turns out that the Toronto item was a misquotation. The cop never said that. It was corrected the day after the original piece.

First rule of reading articles on the net, always scroll down.:) It appears this was a little bit of hyperbole on the part of the Toronto cops combining with a reporter more interested in a good tag rather than fact checking.
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Ben Varkentine » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:15 pm

Scrolled further down the Huffington page and found this:
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It turns out that the Toronto item was a misquotation. The cop never said that. It was corrected the day after the original piece.

First rule of reading articles on the net, always scroll down. It appears this was a little bit of hyperbole on the part of the Toronto cops combining with a reporter more interested in a good tag rather than fact checking.


Well, that's what someone calling themselves "Bleepless" says--and my first rule of reading articles on the net is to take anything anyone hiding behind a screenname says with a grain of salt.

The Times archive is having a nutty at the moment, but a blogger named Ernest Miller, as linked in the column, did find what looks to me like more "quibbling about the exact numbers," as Ladowski puts it, than a refutation of the broader point.
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Re: Star Trek

Postby sam7777 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:34 pm

http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,68577,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4
Star Trek Phone Set to Thrill
Get ready for your phone to go where no phone has gone before.

Sona Mobile and Viacom Consumer Products are set to offer a Star Trek communicator-themed mobile device that will let users make calls, play video clips, play online Star Trek games and surf the internet.

The cool gadgetry on the classic TV series has made dreamers drool since the first time Captain Kirk barked the words "Beam me up, Scotty!" into his little black box and snapped it shut. But this is the first time Viacom, which owns the rights to the TV and movie franchise, has put its licensed imprint on such a device.

The special-edition Star Trek Communicator Phone is part of the ramping-up of events and promotions tied to the 40th anniversary of the Star Trek franchise next year. But the timing was also right because "the technology is better now," said Sandi Isaacs, VP of interactive at Viacom Consumer Products. "With the prior generations of handsets and mobiles, it was really hard to give consumers a rich experience."

Viacom and Sona are still finalizing details of the look and features that the communicator phone, due in stores Sept. 30, will sport. But fans can expect the devices to chirp and beep with ringtones that mimic the familiar sounds of the communicators used in the Star Trek TV series and movies.
This is really full circle as the trek communicator helped inspire cell phones to begin with. I wouldn't get one since I don't even have a cell phone but I am interested in seeing what it looks like.

Trek has been inspiring scientists for decades:
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TREK TECH
40 years since the Enterprise's inception, some of its science fiction gadgets are part of everyday life

In the 23rd century universe of "Star Trek,'' people talked to each other using wireless personal communicators, had easy access to a vast database of information and spent hours gazing at a big wall-mounted video screen.

On 21st century Earth, that future is already here.

People talk to each other on wireless communicators called cell phones. They have instant access to infinite amounts of information on the Internet. And they can spend hours staring at a big wall-mounted plasma or liquid- crystal display TV watching reruns of "Star Trek." That is, if they can afford one.

Indeed, 40 years after "Star Trek" creator Gene Roddenberry outlined his vision for the groundbreaking science-fiction TV series, some of the once- futuristic personal technology depicted in the voyages of the starship Enterprise have become a reality.

Moreover, "Star Trek" has influenced a generation of engineers and scientists, inspiring them to engage in the future they saw on TV and to "make it so."

"When I designed the UI (user interface) for the Palm OS back in '93, my first sketches were influenced by the UI of the Enterprise bridge panels,'' said Rob Haitani, product design architect for Palm-One Inc., the Milpitas firm that makes the popular handheld personal computers.

"Years later, when we designed the first Treo (a combo phone and wireless PDA), it had a form factor similar to the communicators in the original series. It had a speakerphone mode so you could stand there and talk into it like Capt. Kirk.''
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Re: Star Trek

Postby Hemiola » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:00 am

And the inspiration doesn't stop there!

Remember the monitoring displays over the beds in Dr. McCoy's sickbay? Several doctors and design engineers have firmly maintained that this was the inspiration for the elaborate bedside medical monitor readouts that can now be seen in the ICUs of every hospital.:)

Interesting about the cell phones--I heard Leonard Nimoy tell an interesting story in a recent interview: while directing a scene in a television episode, his cell phone rang. He pulled it out and opened it to talk, and the entire crew pointed at him and burst out laughing. Perplexed, he looked at his Motorola cell phone and realized that it looked exactly like a Star Trek communicator! :lol
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Re: Star Trek

Postby sam7777 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:47 am

And the inspiration doesn't stop there!

Yeah Trek has really been a force for good in the world. More than any other genre show, I think. Another example is that Nichelle Nichols helped recruit astronauts for NASA including African American astronaut Mae Jameson who then went on to do a guest shot on STNG. :)

Trek has encouraged alot of young people to take up science. I know that I personally watched the TOS series when I was a girl and saw for the first time that women could be starship officers something that I had never seen before. Trek made me want to be a professional rather than a traditional female career. It may look hackneyed now but it was a BIG deal in the 60's and early 70's. Not too mention, I think it was one of the only and first shows that had a muti-racial cast which is something that most shows nowadays including the show that shall not be named don't do ("Lost" is a breath of fresh air on the networks in this regard).

Trek fans are also disproportionally helping others:
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Errand of Mercy
-Charity and Community Service-

"Helping others is the soul of what Star Trek is about. "

-Ken Waid

A surprising discovery I made was that Trek fans do a lot of charity work and community service. While this is something very common to American clubs of all types, it is something people don’t usually associate with science fiction fans who have the reputation of being out of touch with the world.

Charity work among Trek fans has something of a tradition, going right back to the times of The Original Series. Back when the studio was more open to fans, it gave away masses of unwanted Trek film clips. Collecting these soon became a popular hobby among fans. Some fans, though, collected with another goal in mind: charities. They would sell them and donate the money to a charity they felt was important to support, without taking any profit for themselves.

It is a tradition that has lasted - in America, at least. All the American clubs I encountered did community work to some extent. Interestingly, clubs that were more involved in this were also the ones that were the most helpful in giving me info on Trek fandom. On the other hand, no European clubs did any charity work at all. When I brought up this topic while talking to some Swiss fans, they seemed surprised at the idea of including charity work in their activities.

Some American clubs have made quite a name for themselves, not just in fandom, but also in their communities, by doing charity work and community service. Larry Barnes (club unknown) wrote: “When Trek was really popular, and The Next Generation was still on the air, our club was known in the community. We had a definite presence and organisations would call us to help them with their activities.”

A pamphlet introducing the USS Morning Star, a chapter of Starfleet International, says: “We are part of Starfleet, a world-wide organisation of Star Trek fans interested in lending a helping hand and in promoting a better future through community service, charity work and friendship. What holds us together is our commitment to Gene Roddenberry’s vision of a better future through tolerance, mutual respect and above all, a willingness to help.”

Starfleet International has chosen the words “let me help”, a famous line from the episode “The City on the Edge of Forever” to be their motto, and many do their best to live by this. They approached my questionnaire with this attitude, and were happy to answer as many questions as I wanted.

The club is not-for-profit and registered as a service organisation. It supports a large number of charities, and in addition, individual chapters sponsor charities they think are worthwhile.

As a whole, SFI runs what they call a “stampede”. They collect postage stamps and the money they raise goes towards various charities such as UNICEF and the Red Cross.

They also support the Ronald McDonald house, and they help provide food for Third World countries. Then there is the Overseas Coupon Project. Members collect cents-off coupons from food packages and send them to American military bases in Europe, so the soldiers and their families can buy American products much cheaper on the base.

Ships that collect over $500 a month “adopt” a base, which means they send all their coupons to that base. This is quite a popular charity, with some chapters collecting over $1000 worth of coupons per month!

For 16 years, SFI has been supporting the army in another way as well: with the so-called “Operation Eagle”. Starfleet International members write letters and send gift boxes or care packages to military men serving overseas. As there are quite a few ex-military people in SFI, supporting the armed forces is important to them. Each chapter helps collect coupons or stamps for some of the above charities; some support them all. But they also work hard in their local area, helping out where they see it’s necessary.

Some examples are the USS Charleston, which has adopted a highway and is therefore responsible for keeping it litter-free. The USS Haise visits hospitals, taking along puzzles and plush Trek animals for the children. The USS Atlas provides its own scholarship fund. The USS Sol is into teaching young people how to write good science fiction. And so on…the fans are very creative!

Not every club puts the same emphasis on charity work. Some do it to the extent that their newsletters are mostly taken up with charity reports! While the previously mentioned USS Morning Star is very involved in charity work, and has a very impressive list of the charities they support, the non-SFI club USS Bounty from Canada does more Trek-related activities. Interestingly, the Morning Star is run by older people, who were with the series from the beginning, while the Bounty is composed of younger fans.

Klingon-based clubs tend to do less charity work.

Says Carol Bockelman: ”I gather that Trek clubs and community work are closely related in your experience. This connection doesn’t hold across the board. Community work is only a very small part, or no part at all, of many of the Klingon clubs.” All the Klingon clubs I encountered though did do some community work, though, such as money raising, or visiting hospitals.

For the Morning Star group, recycling and health are very important, and they do their best to promote environmental awareness. While we take recycling facilities for granted, they are not yet widely available in America. However, an article in the Morning Star’s newsletter encourages members to recycle aluminium, glass, paper, bottles, etc, and the commanding officers will even pick the things up from a member’s house and take them to a recycling centre if they can’t do it themselves!

Strangely, almost none of the clubs outside America did charity or community work. Admittedly, I received very few answers from clubs outside America and Canada, so I can’t say definitely that this is the case everywhere. However, just the fact that I got so few answers from other countries, when I wrote to just as many German clubs as American ones, says something about their readiness to help! As I said before, Swiss fans were surprised at the idea of including charity work in their activities. At Star Trek conventions, auctions of Trek goodies are held, often of original props from the series, and the proceeds go to charities.

So it can be said that Trek fans are generally a caring group of people. Wanting to make a difference is common to many Trek fan clubs. The question is, why?

Michael Dorn, who played Lt. Cdr. Worf on The Next Generation, once said in an interview:”...the true fans are the ones who believe that this [the Trek-style universe] is our future.” But I think it’s more than that. Trek fans are intelligent, aware people, and can see the problems of the world around us. They would like to see a future like that shown in Star Trek come true, and by helping out where they can, are doing their best to create it. Additionally, people who like a show that promoted helping others are bound to have a bit of that in themselves, too.

Star Trek started out as a rather radical little series that was ahead of its time in some ways. It is fitting that the fans of the show carry on, a bit ahead of the times in terms of environment awareness, tolerance, and willingness to help.

Dallas Vincon wrote that he sees Trek fans as a group who are “…working to better the planet and ourselves. […] Yes, we may have our heads in the stars, but our feet are firmly planted on the ground.” In Starfleet International, fans are not judged by how much trivia they know (as the Trekkie cliché implies), but, according to Larry Jones, “by their results- that is, whether you spend all your time and money on Star Trek fantasy, or whether you make contributions to society in conjunction with your fandom.”

And Andrew Gossett wrote: ”I hope that 500 years from now, a benevolent society looks back and says `They’re the ones who helped realise our future”
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Re: Star Trek

Postby WebWarlock » Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:50 pm

Man.

New season starting and I really miss Trek.
Even bad Trek is better than no Trek at all.

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Re: Star Trek

Postby Sheridan » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:49 am

New season starting and I really miss Trek.
Even bad Trek is better than no Trek at all.

And its annoying that by the end Enterprise was turning into good Trek. It is weird to be wihtout Trek after being on the air for almost twenty years Still maybe a break is a good thing, give them time to recharge creatively.
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