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The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:46 pm

I just wanted to start a thread about diet and nutrition.

Mostly because I want to stay motivated. I might even post in the fitness thread but I feel intimidated :p

I wanted to celebrate because as of today I have lost 50 pounds in 5 months. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and have gone on a low-carb diet. I feel better than I have in years and I am a size I haven't been in 18 years. I want to lose more weight but try to tell myself I'll be happy if I don't and just keep the weight off. My new diet is for life so I hope it does stay off.

Anyway, if anyone is trying to lose weight or is starting a new diet, I thought we could talk about it. I have become quite obsessive about carbhydrates and will not eat over 30 grams at any meal. I usually have about 20 and I don't count the carbs in veggies except corn and peas (which I don't eat).
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby MochaVamp » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:10 pm

Xita
I just wanted to start a thread about diet and nutrition.

Mostly because I want to stay motivated.


Great idea!

Xita
I wanted to celebrate because as of today I have lost 50 pounds in 5 months. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and have gone on a low-carb diet. I feel better than I have in years and I am a size I haven't been in 18 years. I want to lose more weight but try to tell myself I'll be happy if I don't and just keep the weight off.

Wonderful results and a fantastic attitude! I've had friends do the low-carb diet on and off, but not with the results you are having.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby JustSkipIt » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:24 am

Xita, I just posted in Exercise and said congratulations but I'll say it again: great job.

My nutrition is a very loose term. Basically, I'm vegetarian plus fish. Lacto-ovo-pesco? might be the term. My nutrition is basically, I try to eat good vegetables and lots of green ones. I try to eat enought protein every day. And I try to limit the amount of sugar/candy I eat. Other than that, I aim for whole grains and organics and things like that. If someone asked me how many grams of carbs or protein I had, I'd shrug because I have no idea. But I feel like I generally have a pretty healthy diet. That's about it.

Anyone else?
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Auburn » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:13 pm

I'm the same as you, JustSkipit. I'm a vegetarian + fish. I try to eat healthily and avoid fast food or convenient food as much as possible. I always eat my five fruit and vegetables a day, sometimes exceeding it. :)

I started eating healthily about a year ago to help my mum with her diet as she had high cholesterol, she has now lost two and a half stone, dropped two dress sizes and her cholesterol has returned to normal.

I keep getting annoyed by people saying I don't need to eat healthily as I'm a little underweight (by half a stone, which in the U.S is 7 pounds, although I don't look unhealthy) for my height. But I'm not eating healthily to loose weight, I'm doing it because it makes me feel better knowing that I'm not putting junk into my body, and to set an example for the children I work with.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Emms » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:14 pm

Unlike some of you, I'm not a vegetarian, (I have a weakness for spicy chicken wings :blush ) although I do try and eat healthy (which can be an uphill climb most days) as often as possible. I try and stick to Organic products (which are really easy to find here because most everything is organically grown) and I've found that if I stock my fridge and cabinets with things that are good for me anyway, it's much easier to stay away from fast food and such.

The word 'Diet' has never been a useful term for me (I've been struggling with my weight constantly for the last 8 years and as of right now I have a significant amount of weight to lose) I prefer to say that I've made a lifestyle change than say well... I'm on a diet. Diets just don't work for me.

I'd like to exercise way more often than I actually do, but I struggle with procrastination and laziness (never a good combination) 3/4 of the time and I have a hard time sticking with things long enough for them to have an effect. :blush However, reading what Xita has accomplished has inspired me a bit. :) Both my sister and my Mom have type 2 diabetes, so it's a fear that's never far from my mind. I get tested once a year and so far have lucked out and have not developed it.

Perhaps I'll begin posting in this thread and the exercise thread more often. :blush

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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:22 pm

I am 34 and I ignored getting tested for it even though all of my dad's family has it: dad, uncle, aunt, grandmother. It's been a big change.

Yeah, I agree with you Emms, it can't be a diet... that passes, some fad. It has to be for life. When I use the term diet now I just think of the things that I eat, not a plan to lose weight. I started this with a goal to lower my blood sugar. I went to classes and researched online. I've come to have good control now.

Food though ugh. Yeah Justskipit, I was one who could never tell you how much of anything I ate. I follow some simple things now. I try to balance my meals with fat, protein and carbs. I eat meat so the protein is fairly easy. I found out what amounts of carbohydrates are in all types of food. This is the basic Kaiser diet as given to me at the doctor's. I count one serving as 15 grams of carbs. I eat no more than 2 of those a meal. They recommend 2-3 of those servings a meal. And 1 serving per snack. That means 30-45 grams at a meal, 15 grams at snack. I have some nice sheets that have general info and common foods and their carb servings.. Other than carbs, everything else I just try to stick to servings and not gorge on anything.

The most important thing I do is have 2 servings of veggies at lunch and dinner. If half my food is not veggies, I feel like I am doing something wrong. I also absolutely do not eat junk food. Most of my meals are cooked at home. I do try to have treats, sugar free jello, low carb ice cream, low carb yogurt.

The other most important thing I have done is also stick to serving sizes. If I have a string cheese, it's 1. If I have ice cream, it's half a cup. If I am hungry I snack, but always something that's snack sized!

It's depressing sometimes like watching my gf eat pie lol, but most times it's ok.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby NewRuthRising » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:56 pm

I've attempted non-dairy and it was great. I shed loads of weight, felt healthy and invigorated and ready for anything. Unfortunately without the dairy to line my stomach I overdosed on painkillers, so I'm back on it till after my op. But for those of you not on massive amouts of meds, try non-dairy. It's quite hard to find stuff without milk in. Vitalite is the only butter-like spread i've found and ready ,eals usually have milk powder in but that can work to your advantage because instead of thinking "I musnt eat anything" you think " i musnt eat anything with dairy" which is far easier to abide by. Makes you eat healthy things instead of snacks.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby JustSkipIt » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:53 pm

NewRuthRising wrote:Vitalite is the only butter-like spread i've found and ready
/We use Willow Run Soy Butter/Margarine. It's non-dairy (I think) but it's very hard to find. I know of one store in town that sells it and we usually buy 4 pounds at a time when they have it in stock.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Willow Watcher » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:32 pm

Here is a wild idea for making an omlet. It works!
It depends on what sort of ingredients you put into your omlet to make it preferable for dietary needs. Either way it will be delicious.

You need:
1 Ziplock bag (Gallon size)
2 Eggs
Various ingredients to your perfered taste:
Cheese
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Onions
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Meat: Ham, Sausage, Bacon
Salt and Pepper
Or basically whatever you like in your omlet.

Crack two eggs and put them in the bag. Don't add the shells unless you want a crunchy omlet! lol
Shake until eggs are completely scrambled.
Add ingredients.
NOTE: If you put too many ingredients add another egg. It will take longer to cook though.
Mix all in bag. Make sure you get as much air out of the bag as possible.

Take rolling boiling water. And place the bag inside.
Cook for 13 minutes. (16 if using 3 eggs)

Remove from water, cut bag and the omlet will slide out and be perfect. This is a great idea considering people use vegetable oil to cook their omlets or margarine. This takes no oil at all!

Eat and enjoy!
It's great to make for family time (in which I have done) or for guest.

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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby FineyMcFine » Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:20 am

The thing I get confused about with nutrition is what to do, exactly. My friend has been on the Abs Diet and loves it. He also works out like a fiend, running 4 miles a day and lifting big-time weights, which I do not. But anyway, the Abs Diet recommends foods like whole grain breads, beans, lean meats, instant oatmeal, and olive oil, eggs, green veggies, almonds, etc. http://www.absdiet.com/uof/absdiet/?source=rodale

xita, you mentioned a low-carb way of eating, which I did at one point. It was great; I lost about 10 pounds. I did miss eating some of the things that I gave up, though. And on the pink foods chart that you posted, foods to avoid are things like bread, oatmeal, beans, etc.

Anyway, I know that each eating plan is different and they're not really mix and match. These days I try to eat decent food and lots of vegetables. I think my Achilles heels are portion sizes (because I usually have a large portion) and junk food - especially chips and candy. I feel like if I worked on those things first then that would be a good first step.

Of course, my weight is pretty steady, so with exercising maybe it will decrease a bit. I'd like to lose about 30 pounds. I guess I'm probably not ready to commit to something that is so laid out and set in stone right now like low-carb or Abs Diet or South Beach, etc. I want to cook a rutabaga tonight, for example, which is pretty starchy/carb-laden. Etc.

Edited because my sentence structure and word choices were horrific and confusing.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby mole » Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:42 am

Like a lot of people, I need to loose weight - about 50 pounds would make me (and my doctor) pretty darned happy. Here's my problem - I'm struggling with a mini (or not so mini, depending on the day) bout of depression and cooking/eating healthier foods is something for which I just don't have the energy. I KNOW I should be eating a lot of veggies (and normally I do) and that I should cut back on red meat (when I'm feeling better, I eat a lot of chicken), and that I should stay away from snack foods. But when just getting to work takes all the energy I have, how do I work up the energy to cook?

Do any of you have quick/easy ideas for healthy snacks and meals (especially portable ones that I can take to work for lunch)?

I need to work in an exercise regimen as well, but I think I'll start with baby steps and get my eating habits back on track first.

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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby NewRuthRising » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:29 am

On days when you can be arsed, cut up some fruit and veg you like and put them in a bowl of water with clingfilm over the top. Voila-instant snack without fuss.

Ann (my aunt/guardian/roommate) goes through phases where she'll spend a couple of days making huuuuuge amounts of soup from fresh ingredients and then put it all in bags in the freezer. Defrost in the microwave in minutes and again - voila.

Soup is easy. Grab some veg you like, boil it up, add some spices and whizz the whole lot up in the blender. Yummy.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:14 pm

SallyMcFine wrote:xita, you mentioned a low-carb way of eating, which I did at one point. It was great; I lost about 10 pounds. I did miss eating some of the things that I gave up, though. And on the pink foods chart that you posted, foods to avoid are things like bread, oatmeal, beans, etc.

Anyway, I know that each eating plan is different and they're not really mix and match. These days I try to eat decent food and lots of vegetables. I think my Achilles heels are portion sizes (because I usually have a large portion) and junk food - especially chips and candy. I feel like if I worked on those things first then that would be a good first step.


I know what you mean, some of my dietary habits right now contradict what I have been told for years, but I am losing weight. I can't really argue against it. I don't watch the red meat, I try to eat different kinds of meat, but primarily chicken I suppose.

The pink foods yes are some of the things that are most delicious. I wouldn't say avoid those foods, I would just say avoid eating them all together or avoid eating too much of them. The scary thing to me about that is the serving size yes.

Serving sizes are hard, even the recommended daily allowance of carbs for most people in the food labels is only like 300 carbs daily (a 2000 calorie diet). And those of us trying to lose weight are usually on less calories a day. I admit I don't count the calories but I do count carbs. If one bagel is 60 grams of carbs and you are only allowed 300 a day, you kinda over did it already. Pasta, beans, rice are nice but full of carbs, 1/3 of a cup of rice and pasta are 15 grams. 1/2 of beans is 15 grams. But have you seen what 1/3 of a cup looks like? I just don't eat that really anymore. If you think of a nice bowl of pasta you're probably talking about your entire allowance of carbohydrate in a day in one sitting.

And really that's true for most anything, fat or protein, it's all about the portion size, I am all about reading the portion size on labels and sticking to that. Except veggies, I am generous there (no peas or corn!)

mole The best snacks you can have are fruits and veggies. One small fruit of any sort will do!! I only have one of those a day though because of the carb issue. Veggies are just free free free!! I had a hard time taking veggies to work because it's hard to prepare food at work. I take carrots and small salads and cucumbers! I love cucumbers and slice them up in a baggie and they are a great snack.

Another healthy and filling snack are nuts. Almonds are some of the best things you can eat, but whatever you get, be sure that they are mostly plain, you don't want added sugar and things. Also, read the label and find what the serving size is. It will usually tell you 20 nuts, etc. I count them and eat that. I always keep them at work and eat them when I feel a hunger pang.

I have found though that if I eat a good breakfast full of protein (I recommend Kellog's Special K Protein, 3/4 cup, + and egg beaters, 1/2 cup), I will be less hungry through the morning.

When I am at home good snacks are low carb yogurt and one string cheese!

I am kinda obsessed with food right now lol, I will keep typing if I don't drag myself away!
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Emms » Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:46 pm

xita wrote:Serving sizes are hard, even the recommended daily allowance of carbs for most people in the food labels is only like 300 carbs daily (a 2000 calorie diet). And those of us trying to lose weight are usually on less calories a day. I admit I don't count the calories but I do count carbs. If one bagel is 60 grams of carbs and you are only allowed 300 a day, you kinda over did it already. Pasta, beans, rice are nice but full of carbs, 1/3 of a cup of rice and pasta are 15 grams. 1/2 of beans is 15 grams. But have you seen what 1/3 of a cup looks like? I just don't eat that really anymore. If you think of a nice bowl of pasta you're probably talking about your entire allowance of carbohydrate in a day in one sitting.....

And really that's true for most anything, fat or protein, it's all about the portion size, I am all about reading the portion size on labels and sticking to that. Except veggies, I am generous there (no peas or corn!)

Another healthy and filling snack are nuts. Almonds are some of the best


Xita, In the past I have found it useful to keep a chart for a few weeks at a time in order to keep track of everything I eat...right down the amount of fiber in each serving, and then I add the totals up at the end of each day. I do this because it's important to me to be aware of exactly what it is I'm putting into my body, and I'm a very visual person so actually being able to see the numbers and compare the numbers from one day to the next really helps me to understand. Also, doing the chart let me see the things I actually need to eat more of. During one point in time I was actually only getting in 1000 calories a day, (which is not enough) even though I was eating all healthy foods and many small meals a day. The chart helped me see where I needed to regulate my food intake. I don't keep this chart continually, but come back to it every few months for a week at a time to see if I'm still on target with the amount of nutrition I'm getting out of the food I eat.

A part of eating healthy, IMO is not necessarily just eating low fat items, because low fat items are not always the best alternative. For example, I don't buy or consume Margarine because It's been pointed out to me that Margarine is only one molecule away from actually being plastic. (I figure that can't be good for me LOL)... even the flies wont go near Margarine...and if the flies wont touch it, it's probably not the best thing to be putting into my body. I eat real butter when I eat butter, but most of the time I just leave butter out of the equation all together. I've found that substituting butter for a no fat cooking spray works the best. I usually use Pam.

The same goes for sugar, as well... when I use sugar, I use real sugar...no artificial sweeteners. But mostly I tend to stay away from sugar as much as I can.

Things like Almonds and cashews are really healthy to eat because they contain the good kind of fat.. though they should only be eaten a serving at a time because they also contain a lot of calories.

Another thing that I allow myself is Dove Dark Chocolate, the little square, bite-sized pieces; they contain a buttload of antioxidants. (which help prevent the oxidation happening in your body) Another good source of Antioxidants is Blueberries, so I eat as many of those as I can
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby dynigirl » Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:53 pm

Try keeping your chocolate in chunks in the freezer. It means when you eat it, it takes longer, you appciate it more and eat less.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:57 pm

Emms that helped me out a lot at first. I wasn't charting it, but because I had to write down my blood sugar twice a day, I started writing everything I ate so that I could figure out how to lower it. Well, nothing keeps you in check better than accountability. I had double accountability, not just because I was writing down my food but because my blood sugar number could tell me if I betrayed my low carb credo.

Anyway, writing it down is really what I recommend. I have also started using a budget and I write down everything I spend. That's brought down my spending.

Writing down what you eat can be the accountability people need. I am less likely to gorge on a bad item if I know I have to write it down later. Amazingly, I am the type of person who won't cheat and then lie about it on my records. I am pretty straightforward with that.

I also wanted to share a website with you guys.

http://www.nutritiondata.com

It's a great place to find out what the nutritional info is on different foods. It displays it in a familiar food label that we all recognize (US). It's fun to see how many calories veggies have, it's like eating air sometimes.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby JustSkipIt » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:18 pm

Last month's Oprah had an interesting article or piece. The woman writing it wrote about how she'd tried different diets, etc. One day she was out to eat with a friend or colleague and explaining her eating habits and the friend said, "why don't you just eat the best thing available?" She took that concept and realized that it really made sense. What is "the best thing available"? If you're at a baseball game, maybe it's the popcorn or a snowcone. If you're at the mall and you want a treat, maybe it's one Godiva chocolate truffle. Or maybe it's organic fruits and vegetables or Tuna steak. I found it a great concept because you can use it in every situation and then not really add up the earlier day. It's about making the choices in that instant.

The writer actually went on to expand the idea. To ask herself if the conversation she was having, the movie she was seeing, the book she was reading, was the best thing available.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby mole » Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:33 am

NewRuthRising - Thanks for the tip on the soup. I'll give that a go, especially when fall/winter come to town. I already eat a bunch of veggies and fruit, so that's good. Sometimes, I just get tired of the same old thing or I'm too worn out to do the prep necessary for easy access to the veggies. Just need to find a way to be better motivated, I suppose.

Xita - As I said to NRR above, I do eat a bunch of veggies. Nuts are a good suggestion, so I must remember to buy some at the grocery next time I'm shopping.

I've always found that I'm MORE hungry if I've had breakfast. Maybe I'm not eating the right things:) I'll give your suggestion a try.

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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby NewRuthRising » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:18 pm

Aren't nuts like, pure fat? Designed to keep animals alive during hibernation?
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Emms » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:26 pm

Yeah...but it's good fat, Ruth. ;-)
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby NewRuthRising » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:55 pm

Ah, I see!

There's good fat???

Is it in ice cream, by any chance?
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Thianne » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:31 pm

well, there's the walnut ice cream, which happens to be my favourite....that's probably good fat :-D
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:09 pm

Yeah nut fat is good fat, plus you aren't supposed to eat tons of nuts. Stick to the serving size in the nutrition label. It depends on the type of nut but the serving size can be anywhere from 5 to like 20.

Anyway wanted to come on here again to those of you trying to lose weight, it's not a diet, it's change of lifestyle! It's for life!!

And that as of today, now I have lost 60 pounds! Yay!

And as far as ice cream, I have to watch the carb, but there are good low carb type ice creams out there, including some ice cream bars made of tofu! Pretty cool!
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby JustSkipIt » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:24 pm

Tofu ice cream bars are great.

Avocados have the "good fat" too.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:06 am

It's been slow going, especially with the Holidays but I am now at

72 pounds lost!


Yay! I admit that I haven't been exercising really, but I am committed to nutrition for life and I have not wavered. Even during the holidays, I made good treats! Anyway, for anyone trying to lose weight, hang in there!
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby JustSkipIt » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:35 am

Wow. That's fantastic, Xita!
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby Emms » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:41 am

Way to go, Xita!

As for me, I've lost about 12 pounds since I started my new job. I think it's all the water I've been drinking and all the running around I've been doing. :)
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby xita » Sun May 20, 2007 2:12 pm

Has definitely slowed down, but I am still losing! I am a size 12 now, very happy! And I've lost 80 pounds now! yay! This summer I am really going to work on exercise.

My life has been CRAZY! Everything I've always counted on is just changed. I am just now getting used to it. So back to exercise!

I have not wavered on the diet though. I am starting to become confident that my lifestyle change is just that for life. I dread that one day I'll become frustrated and get bad food again. But, for now, I am confident!
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby summer fairy » Sun May 20, 2007 2:29 pm

I have toned up loads more since starting kickboxing and find myself drinking more water and its interesting, since I started doing that, I find I snack less..maybe this has somat to do with bordam? because since starting kickboxing I just have somat to do with my time, also it may have somat to do with confidence, if I feel low I don't snack I exercise. Not that I need to lose weight, I am a size 8 but I did need to tone up.
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Re: The Nutrition Thread

Postby JustSkipIt » Sun May 20, 2007 7:03 pm

Xita, I am so totally impressed with your changes. 80 Lbs is huge! And to think that you did it mostly through diet is really amazing. I hope that you are able to add in some good exercise this summer. Even going for walks can really help. And you can do 3 - 15 or 20 minute ones throughout the day. Good luck.
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