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Wedding

Postby Auriam » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:31 am

Hey kitttens
i read a lot of time here are a lot a you have wife, so that mean you did have a wedding, didn't it ?
Soo it's your board !
How was your wedding ?
How long did you know your wife to be ?
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Re: Wedding

Postby Leaf » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:08 pm

Ahh...it's one of my favorite subjects. If I could subject you all to a barrage of wedding photos I'd do that too. Shamelessly.
So. Yes. My wife and I had a wedding. Actually, my wife and I had two weddings. The story goes like this:

We got married (round one) in October of 2003. We had been dating for about 5 1/2 years. At the time we were planning the wedding our families were still struggling with the two girls bit (although they came around beautifully by the time it arrived), and so they weren't involved in the planning at all. The hidden blessing in that was that we had the opportunity to write the thing from scratch and to really decide just what a wedding meant to us. There was no part of our ceremony that didn't feel entirely essential and entirely us. We gathered with about 70 of our nearest and dearest in the woods on a bit of conservation land about 45 minutes outside of Boston. Our guests stood in a circle around us. Songs were sung, poems read, blessings offered. We exchanged vows and rings and were showered with flowers. No one officiated. No one "pronounced" us anything. We each offered our heart and life to the other and accepted what was offered in return. Then we all hiked back through the woods and had an awesome reception/brunch in a barn. It was an astoundingly beautiful day. The experience was moving and transformative on a level that I had never expected and that surprised the pants off of me. (yes. I was wearing pants.)

So that was what I think of as our "real" wedding. And at the time I figured it was the only one we'd ever have. However, we were living in Massachusetts at the time and shortly afterwards, the SJC issued it's landmark decision legalizing gay marriage and told the good old state of MA to get it's act in gear by May 17th, 2004. So 12:00AM, May 17th finds the wife and me in line at the Cambridge City Hall making history with a few hundred other gorgeous gay couples and several thousand supporters cheering us all on. And I have to tell you, the City of Cambridge really really stepped up to the plate and made it one hell of a celebration. Perfect strangers brought us flowers and hot chocolate (it was very chilly!) while we waited in line. City Hall was all decked out in white tulle. There were some great speakers, a lot of hooting and clapping, and even some wedding cake. Not to mention when was the last time you saw city employees volunteering at 3AM with huge smiles on their faces, looking like there was nowhere else in the world they would rather be? It was awesome. We filed our intention to marry that night and had a small, brief civil ceremony with a Justice of the Peace three days later.
So that's the story. Two women. Two weddings. To eachother.
Possibly more info than you ever wanted to know, but there it is. :)
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Re: Wedding

Postby Willowlover » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:37 pm

Leaf thats awesome. I had read about that night but i didnt know anyone who had been there. :pride :clap Thank you for telling us about your weddings.
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Re: Wedding

Postby Auriam » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:15 pm

Leaf wrote:Ahh...it's one of my favorite subjects. If I could subject you all to a barrage of wedding photos I'd do that too. Shamelessly.

Pleasseeee doooooo ! ! ! !
So that's the story. Two women. Two weddings. To eachother.

It's romantic live happy ever after it's all i wish for you !
Possibly more info than you ever wanted to know, but there it is.

Thank so much, it's just perfect, thank for share with us.
Make me feeling alive again i really need that BIG THANK !
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Re: Wedding

Postby Brianna » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:57 am

Wow! realy something you have to live to undestand completly the feelings!!
Do I act like the big knowledge woman?

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Re: Wedding

Postby MagicPancakes » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:15 am

Leaf, that is soooo amazing. My girlfriend and I have just started seriously discussing our wedding and it is kind of overwhelming, we have no idea where to begin. All we know is the 'where'....we want our ceremony to be in this area of protected land near my parents' house here in Philly....its where I took her the first time we met. We found this little stream and wrote our names on a rock and took a picture of it that first weekend...we want the ceremony to be around that spot since its really beautiful and has meaning to us...

How did you go about planning yours? We have no idea how to go about it...
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Re: Wedding

Postby Darcy » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:54 pm

Leaf, I love your story. I saw a documentary (True Life, I think - "I'm Gay and I'm Getting Married") on MTV that had a lot of footage of that night in Cambridge.

Melissa (aka Triscuit/Corky) and I had been together 17 years in September 11th, 2001, but the only piece of paper we had was the ancient mutual power of attorney. After readiing about all the problems encountered by people who lost partners in the 9/11 attacks, we decided it would be a good idea to establish the relationship legally. Our families have always been supportive, but clearly that wasn't enough.

So on July 29th, 2002 - our 18th anniversary - we were joined in civil union at Hummingbird Haven in Richford, VT. The owners had put us in touch with a justice of the peace to perform the ceremony, took us down to the office where we obtained the license, and generally made the process remarkably simple. :luv2 We "honeymooned" at Lambs Mill Inn (Naples, Maine).

At the time, we thought that was the only option. Over the next few months we also (by mail) registered a "reciprocal beneficiary relationship" in Hawaii, a "domestic partnership" in California, and a "life partnership" in Philadelphia, PA.

Then in 2003, same-sex marriages with no residency/citizenship restriction became available in Ontario, Canada. As it happens, we were already registered to attend the WorldCon in Toronto (World Science Fiction Society convention). We contacted the convention organizers asking if there were plans afoot for weddings at the con. They explained that there were, but that the officiant wouldn't be available until Saturday, 8/30.

We really wanted to get married on the 29th (one month after our 19th anniversary, to make it easy to remember the date!), so we made our own arrangements. Then we arrived at the convention hotel to find out that we had just missed a wedding ceremony for several couples! We still needed to get our paperwork, and had to come up with a couple of witnesses. That night we went to the Gaylaxians (LGBTIQ fandom) party, which was being billed as a "wedding reception" for that afternoon's couples, figuring that was our best shot. Sure enough, within minutes we had hooked up with a couple from Chicago who were also geting married on the 29th and also needed witnesses. We quickly struck a deal to be witnesses for each other.

The staff at City Hall were lovely, shepherding us through all the paperwork efficiently and cheerfully. I heard that they had stayed open a whole weekend that summer to process paperwork for couples that had come to Toronto for the Pride celevbrations.

That Friday we met up with our witnesses and grabbed a cab to City Hall, arriving with time to spare. As it happened, the couple ahead of us hadn't shown up, so they took us immediately instead of making us wait until our appointment time. That happy accident meant that just as the ceremony finished, all the church bells began striking noon - it sounded like the end of a royal wedding!

Even knowing that it would have no legal significance back home in New Jersey, I found myself so overcome with emotion that I could barely get through the ceremony - rather to my wife's amusement.

We stopped at Niagara Falls on the way home - after all, it's traditional to go to Niagara Falls on your honeymoon, right? ;-)

Before Massachusetts got so snotty about marrying out-of-staters, we considered repeating the process at the 2004 WorldCon, which was in Boston. (We had registered for both the Toronto and Boston Cons before any of those marriage decisions came down, so it was pure coincidence that we had trips to both planned. Or maybe we're lightning rods for same-sex marriage!) However, the consensus of legal opinion was that we should NOT repeat the process, since it could then be argued that we hadn't really believed in the validity of our Canadian marriage.

Instead, we celebrated our 20th anniversary registering our domestic partnership in NJ. We had gotten the paperwork almost as soon as the borough clerk got the forms; in fact, when I went to pick them up, she had been about to mail them to us because she remembered I had been in asking about it. I LOVE MY SMALL TOWN!

On the big day, we took our filled-out forms to borough hall and discovered that of the three notaries, one was on vacation, one was out sick, and the third was the borough clerk, who couldn't notarize her own signature. No problem, we thought - we'll go to the mail place where we got the Hawaii, California, and Philadelphia forms notarized. Except that notary was also out that day. They sent us to the other end of the strip mall - where the notary was having same-day-surgery. They sent us to the Commerce Bank in Moorestown.

The notary pulled out her lilttle book - and asked us for our account number. Which we don't have, since we're not customers. We thought it was just a service you paid for, like a money order. I offered to call my mother, who did have an account with them, but after hearing our sad story, she went ahead and notarized the forms for us anyway.

We made it back to borough hall just in time to finish all the paperwork before the clerk left for lunch. We spent our third honeymoon at the Sofitel in Philadelphia, and went to see the early Cirque du Soleil show. Afterward, we went to dinner at the Ethiopian restaurant (Dahlak) in West Philadelphia that we've been going to since we moved in around the corner from them our first year together, and then wandered through some of the places in Center City that had been special when we first met.

And now we have to see what the New Jersey legislature does to comply with the marriage decision. We'll probably do something to renew our vows, although presumably we don't have to go back through the license procedures again. Since none of our family were able to attend the other ceremonies, it will probably be more along the lines of a family party, and not too elaborate or expensive. Maybe we'll do it for our 25th anniversary in 2009, if I can wait that long. In lieu of wedding gifts, we'll probably encourage contributions to Lambda Legal, which won the marriage case for us.

I do know what kinds of rings I want. We have rings from our first year together, made by a silversmith at the Sisterspace Lesbian Feminist Weekend (we first met through the Sisterspace softball team, and worked together to help plan the Weekend). For Vermont, we did simple necklaces with two heart shapes, one inside the other, from Lane Bryant. :sh For Toronto, we moved the original ring to the right hand and did plain silver bands on the left, purchased from a kiosk at the Moorestown Mall.

But ever since I saw them, I've loved mokume-gane rings, which blend two metals together while keeping their individual identities - a lovely symbol for a marriage, I think, which does the same with two people.

I'm sure we'll share the good news with the Kittens when we have more concrete plans!
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Re: Wedding

Postby Auriam » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:10 pm

wow just wow :blush :blush :blush
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Re: Wedding

Postby Ben Varkentine » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:18 pm

Good entry in The Huffington Post today by a writer named Katherine Bell. She talks about adjusting to calling her girlfriend her wife.

A friend told me that when Linda McCartney died after 30 years of marriage in which they'd spent only one night apart, Paul said 'I've lost my girlfriend and that is very sad.' When I realized that if I still thought of Nancy as my girlfriend in thirty years it would mean our marriage had been a success, I stopped worrying so much and called her whatever I felt like calling her: my girlfriend, my partner, Nancy, and then occasionally, experimentally, my wife.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katherine ... 53697.html
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Re: Wedding

Postby maudmac » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:16 pm

Interesting. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's uncomfortable with the whole "wife" thing. That article didn't really help me get to the bottom of why it bothers me, but at least I'm not alone.

As I was listening to someone earlier today describing her wedding plans, all I could think was "God, that sounds awful. I'm so glad I'll never have to do that." Perhaps I'm still not fully accepting that marriage could be an option for me, but I know that right now, if I could get married and did so, I would not want anyone to use the word "wife" for me. I may get over this, but it bugs me for now.
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