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Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite - Discussion Thread

Postby LostWithoutTara » Sun May 04, 2003 2:22 pm

Hey to all Kittens!



This thread is part of a major ambition of mine - to completely rewrite Season Six in a narrative format and fix all the problems inherent within the story arc. The ideas started circulating on my W/T analysis thread in W&V and I've decided to act on them. This is the place for all Kittens who wish to contribute to a new Season Six to do so.



Keeping within the FAQ rules, the focus is W/T with some but LIMITED discussion of the other characters . Of course, the majority MUST be W/T.



Assume 'The Gift' has just finished. Season Six as we know it never existed. This is the place for your ideas.



Hopefully, we'll be able to restructure the entire Season.



The first while will focus on character/emotional arcs eventually extending to individual episodes and acts which we can redo.



So, first ideas are welcome on Willow's story arc . Anything is viable, BUT the one thing I want to see is an appearance of Willow with the powerful black magics (BMW, :) ). Of course, you can put Willow through anything to get her there except for the obvious. Tara is to stay happy and healthy (although angst is more than welcome). As per rules, the ideas must end with the continuation of W/T the couple in their own bodies, alive and with each other. Not to say that it has to end on a positive note (say if you pull in an apocalypse or Willow does something bad with her magic) but happy is good. If this thread is successful we can come up with our own W/T S7 and if you like you could deal with any angst issues there without explanation. (i.e. W/T get back together around 2nd Alternate S7 ep.)



ALL ideas are welcome for Willow and note - Willow. Tara comes next. Put down anything you think would be cool.



Thanks, LWT. :wave



ETA: You can read the finished parts here: Season Six - The Rising Darkness



Edited by: LostWithoutTara at: 8/27/03 1:38 pm
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby JewWitch18 » Sun May 04, 2003 2:35 pm

hey, cool idea LWT. I always thought that the way to make the whole DMW storyline work would've been to give her some kind of frickin' magickal mentor-- you know, a teacher. because willow, big with the learning. and since giles has been telling willow since, like, S2 how powerful magic is and that she might not be able to close that door once she's opened it...maybe he could realize that there's more to understanding your gifts than an on-off switch!



so, maybe will and tara could spend part of S6 with the coven in england, learning their heritage and the old magickal ways. and, and maybe while they're there, something hellmouthy happens and buffy isn't in the picture, and their skills (which can only be considered successful if used for light) are tested before they're ready...kind of a crucible effect.



that's one idea.



--jenny



BUFFY: Is this where I'm supposed to be quivering in my stylish yet affordable boots?

--Lisa Countryman, "Unexpected Consequences"

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby justin » Sun May 04, 2003 2:43 pm

I like the idea of this thread.



I also like the idea of Willow being mentored and I think Rack would have been perfect for this role. The idea is that Willow would accidentaly hurt her friends with magic (perhaps in the same way as in Tabula Rasa) and that Rack would arrive (only looking like a wise and benevolent teacher rather than a skanky drug dealer) and then once he is teaching her he'd start manipulating her to get her under his control.



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I am


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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby chilled monkey » Mon May 05, 2003 4:57 am

Well first of all, I think you should eliminate the whole magick-crack nonsense. That will be a vast improvement.



Second, if you decide to include Amy, I think she should get a come-uppance. One idea I read on another thread went something like this:- after Willow's D.M. problem becomes apparent and Tara leaves, Will slowly becomes more 'dark'. She keeps Amy around, making 'adjustments' to her hair, clothes etc, so that she becomes a kind of 'Tara-doll'. I can't remember whose idea this was, sorry.



It's important to remember that Willow has never wanted power for it's own sake. She only wants more power to protect the people she loves.



Also I think it would be a good idea to include a scene where Willow tells Tara about her dream in 'Restless' and her insecurities and/or something happens which makes Willow realise that she has grown and is not the person she fears she is.



Lastly, although Willow should realise that she does not need magick, she should not have to give it up either. It's part of her and she has done a lot of good with it.



If you're interested in an alternate S6, I suggest you check out Pezzky's virtual season six. It is brilliant!

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby justin » Mon May 05, 2003 5:04 am

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It's important to remember that Willow has never wanted power for it's own sake. She only wants more power to protect the people she loves.




I totally agree with this.



One thing that would make Willow's abuse of dark magic more believable is if there were one or more episodes where Willow refused to use dark magic and her friends were hurt because of it. This would start making her think that she has to use any magic at her disposal to protect them.



I understand, you should be with the person you l-love


I am


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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby LostWithoutTara » Mon May 05, 2003 11:13 am

As a story for the first few episodes, I'm considering having Willow fail to protect some innocents with her magic, such as through some kind of failure or magic resistant demon. To push Willow into the darkness, I think it would be important to create an area of insecurity around Willow and her magic use, but via failing to protect someone I think her descent could be much more believable.



Even the concept of the drug metaphor could be applied, just without making it addictive. Even Wrecked could have been salvaged if the writers had said what happened was due to Willow's carelessness instead of her being 'addicted.'



I'm trying to think of a way that Amy could be brought back, but still done IC. I have no problem with her and Willow playing around with the dark arts together like they did in Smashed. If Amy was to make a reappearance I think it would be perfectly feasible for this to occur and perhaps their lack of care or belief in their own all-encompassing power could get them in deep water.



My current thinking of a way in which Willow could go bad was one I mentioned in another thread - she uses magic to raise a demon (to fight on the side of good) which then goes haywire and attacks Dawn/Tara.



Before any of this can be applied, though, we have to make the decision as to what Willow's relationship with magic should be. Should she get darker continually throughout the rewrite or follow what happened on screen - mess up, try to function w/o magic and then be forced back into it by a big event?

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby justin » Mon May 05, 2003 2:31 pm

I'd go with the gradual descent.



I think one of the problems with S6 was caused by ME wanting Willow to go bad but they didn't want her to go bad. The idea of having Willow fall, go clean, then fall again meant that in both cases her fall was too rushed for them to be able to make it credible.



If Willow's growing darkness is more gradual then I think it would be a lot more believable.



I agree with the idea of Willow failing to protect some people so she has an incentive to begin using more powerful magic more regularly.



I'd rather drop the drug angle since before S6 there didn't seem to be any suggestion that magic could be used to get high in that way.



I understand, you should be with the person you l-love


I am


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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby LostWithoutTara » Mon May 05, 2003 3:26 pm

The pitch that I'm currently working on is that W/T and the gang are working on keeping the hellmouth demon free, but of course, Willow's constant magic use is kinda draining her and she's unable to help some people. This strengthens her resolve. I'd push the resurrection back a few episodes and then say that when it's performed and trashed by demons, some of Buffy's life energy is siphoned off and causes new, nasty demons to pop up all over the town. Willow then feels that she is to blame for Buffy being 'off' and provides even more of a reason for her to delve deeper.

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby DarkRed » Mon May 05, 2003 4:32 pm

oohh.. i'm so excited :bounce :banana (i just can't hide it)

my dream thread!! glad to be cooperating with u again Lost WithoutTara



ok now to work.. willow's fall should obviously be gradual, that's what ME fucked the most this season! and i think that if in the end she'll be bad ass DMW, which i loved, it would be great.. especially since this time tara Will be there to face her and she'll be the one to save the world!! (a cool scene where DMW faces white magic tara would be a kick-ass thing :party )



but i really think that we should try and fucos things in the right order and start from the begining. so.. first of all i think that we should've gotten more on-screen view of what happened that summer with the scoobies, after Buffy's death.. see how tara deals with her new regained consciousness sanity.. stuff like that. cuz i really enjoyed Bargaining - the chemistry between the scoobies, how they worked as a family, so on..



second, i think that we should really really show how willow got to this drastic decision to bring buffy back from the grave. her conversations with tara over it (cuz i'm sure she wouldn't accept it easily).



and another little point is giles.. i don't get how he could leave the gang.. he loves them as family, and leaving them alone on the hellmouth is just too risky.. he is still needed, even thu buffy's dead. that's what i think anyway.



ok, if any more thoughts occur i'll post them later.. i'm just leaving my notes, letting u talented ppl to write them down. (this is the piont here right? to rewrite S6, something like a fic, not just random thoughts on what should've happened?? :hmm )



anne
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby darkmagicwillow » Mon May 05, 2003 6:28 pm

I'll present an alternate point of view. Giles left too late, not too early. What does the CoW know about Buffy's death and how long can he hide it from them? They're going to call and ask about Glory before the end of summer. What will they do once they find Buffy's dead?

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby lipkandy » Mon May 05, 2003 6:57 pm

deleted because I posted the darn thing by accident and realized I was giving away some major points in my own fic...but, um, great thread



sorry about that.

Edited by: lipkandy at: 5/5/03 6:03:21 pm
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby darkmagicwillow » Mon May 05, 2003 7:05 pm

lipkandy, as I read your post before you deleted it, I was thinking that some of your ideas matched what I'm currently writing too. I have the same difficulty in participating on this thread while avoiding giving away parts of my own stories. I've discarded more ideas than I've kept however, and it would be cool if people incorporate the ideas I'm not using (not because they're bad, but because they don't fit what I'm doing now.)



LostwithoutTara wrote:

I'd push the resurrection back a few episodes and then say that when it's performed and trashed by demons, some of Buffy's life energy is siphoned off and causes new, nasty demons to pop up all over the town.
You're right about the resurrection, and it also helps make this a W/T-focused story by removing Buffy as the center of the Scoobies, but I don't see the connection between Buffy's lifeforce and new demons. The resurrection should have consequences, but they should be directly related to raising Buffy. Perhaps the cost of bringing back Buffy is bringing back what her sacrifice defeated: Glory.



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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 5/5/03 6:06:36 pm
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby LostWithoutTara » Tue May 06, 2003 11:28 am

Well, technically Buffy's sacrifice didn't stop Glory - Giles killed Ben/her. Buffy just shut the gate that Glory had opened.



I liked the concept of demon synthesis presented in After Life and just spread it out a bit more with the demon creation concept. One thing that I've never been sure about, for example, is how Mandraz appeared in Wrecked. What did Willow do to summon him during her high?



The consequences of the resurrection will directly be related to raising Buffy - she's 'incomplete' and would therefore have to learn what it is to be human again - perhaps Tara could help her here while Willow focused more on demon fighting, got more and more separated from her friends and got sucked in to dark magic?

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby darkmagicwillow » Tue May 06, 2003 12:20 pm

Thaumatogenesis is an interesting topic and is dealt with well in books like Rick Cook's Wiz Biz where there are specific conditions under which a spell generates a demon, but it was anticlimatic in AfterLife; it was also poorly explained, but given their lack of a cohesive framework for magic that may have been unavoidable for them, if not for this project. Oh, and thinking of books, for a better version of what it's like to be pulled from Heaven, try Zelazny's Lord of Light, one of the classics of F&SF.



Presenting the resurrection as a simple "raise dead" spell removes a lot of opportunites for telling stories and consequences of Buffy's return. What if Willow used technology from the Initiative to preserve Buffy then bring her back, probably w/o any external demonic implants like Adam but perhaps with a bit of demon blood or a demon heart required to bring her back? Or what if Willow found a way to use the ensouling spell to place Buffy's soul in the Buffybot, bringing her back as a robot? Alternately they could capture a vampire and place Buffy's soul in its body instead of the vamp's old soul. There's also the classic bargain with Death, which will likely require someone's life at a future point in time if not immediately. That could be a very dark bargain and one Buffy might give herself to not fulfill, especially if Willow offers herself.



What if Buffy is brought back by something like the elixir from Anne Rice's The Mummy, which makes her new life dependent on sunlight. Quite a dilemma for the vampire slayer. Also, how realistic is it to recover completely and immediately from death physically? What if it simply takes a few weeks for Buffy to regain her strength? Alternately, what if she is like the Lazarus of legend who can never die til Judgement Day because of his resurrection? This could be quite a surprise when Buffy gets mortally injured and the wound only causes pain instead of death.



All of these suggestions have consequences that flow naturally from the resurrection. Does what I said about direct consequences make more sense now? There are thousands of stories about return from death, of which the spell in Bargaining is probably the simplest. Why not do something more interesting?





Edited to add: Continuing to think outside the box (well, season), what if someone else resurrects Buffy, or at least has taken the body for their own purposes? The CoW, Ethan Rayne, the Initiative, Spike, and Wolfram and Hart are the most obvious culprits already extant in the Buffyverse, but new villains are good too.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 5/6/03 11:31:27 am
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby LostWithoutTara » Tue May 06, 2003 1:06 pm

I think that the 'deal-with-death' is a very good way to look at the resurrection spell with Buffy, but I haven't really thought about the best way to execute it. My rough (and I mean rough) first 8-episode plan does see Buffy severely weakened from the spell, thus forcing Willow to take charge. To be honest, the issue with the spell didn't worry me much - I'm more focusing on the best way to bring about Dark Willow and what emotional crises would have to be inflicted to to push her to that point. I liked the focus on humans-as-evil in Season Six and that's really what I'd like to develop. Spuffy, Xanya, Dark Willow - all good concepts executed poorly, and that's what I want to fix.



Rewrite Story Arcs – A rough plan for first eight episodes.



Hi Kittens :wave



This is how I’m generally thinking the rewrite should be structured at the moment given ideas for Willow’s story arc. Glad to see that ‘descent into darkness’ is the popular choice for bringing about DMW.



Anyway, here’s my very rough idea of events so far. (Note that I’ve included some Spuffy and X/A wedding but obviously W/T get the main focus.)



1-3 – General seeing how the Scoobies are handling Buffy’s death – Giles returns to England, where he explains the situation to the Watcher’s Council. As rough background, we learn that another Slayer has been called (although I don’t plan on featuring yet another Slayer in the story arc.) Lots of talking between Willow and Tara as to what they are going to do about the hellmouth and Buffy. Tara is obviously unhappy with the prospect of resurrection given the dangers but Willow is adamant that they have to do it given that Buffy may be in hell. Willow locates the Urn spell noting that it is one of only a few ‘guaranteed’ resurrection spells (i.e. they bring back the person correctly with no chance of going wrong as long as the spell is performed properly) – the only other she’s found requires three fresh human hearts. She and Tara work on collecting the ingredients.



Elsewhere, we see the girls working hard to fend off demons etc. Willow’s constant use of powerful magic is leaving her drained and tired and she is unable to save some innocents who are subsequently killed. This sparks a major blame in Willow that she wasn’t good enough and must become more powerful in order to protect the people she loves from harm, and sets up the main story arc.



4 – The gang performs the resurrection spell but are disturbed by a group of demons during the midst of it. The spell is complete but the distraction causes the spell to go slightly wrong, causing some of Buffy’s life force to siphon off, forming new super-strong demons/vamps in Sunnydale (think monsters with extra ‘Slayerness’ although the gang are unaware of this development.) They dig Buffy out. Buffy is freaked and disoriented; Tara patches her up and takes care of her at the house while the others finish the cleanup from the spell.



5 – Spike/Dawn learn that Buffy is back (I don’t know what to do about Giles yet.) Tara is concerned that Buffy doesn’t feel right – her essence feels fragmented (remember she could sense the diffs between Buffy and Faith before). Willow believes that Buffy is just off from the experience. Xander/Anya announce their engagement to the gang.



6 – Willow heads up patrol again and only narrowly escapes from some of the ‘SuperDemons’ formed as a consequence of the resurrection. She begins to research ways to increase her magical power – it leads her to Rack (Except he’s not all skanky drug-dealer, just a normal guy with advanced knowledge of these types of spells.) He offers to help her but doesn’t explain why he’s doing so. Willow finds that after receiving her ‘power-boost’ she is able to bypass the traditional incantation style of magic and perform more Sabrina-esque hand gesture magics. More Tara/Buffy, and Buffy and Spike begin to grow closer. Buffy tells him that she was in heaven.



7 – As a pace break, a proper-Tara origin episode dealing with her abusive family, her mother, and most significantly, the way in which she was taught to respect magic. This is intercut with Willow using her own magic to fend off more monsters, on her own. A one point, she is jumped by some muggers and smacks them around with her power. Disturbed by what she’s done, Willow temporarily worries, feeling that she lost control, but rationalises that they deserved it.



8 – More closeness between Spike and Buffy – they kiss. I think a few solid Dawn/Tara scenes would be good here to establish how Tara is becoming a confidante for all the Scoobies. More Xanya development and a few scenes in which we see Willow and Tara discussing events, but Willow does not disclose about her little visit to Rack’s, fearing that Tara may unduly worry about her or that Tara may get on her case about the magic.







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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby chilled monkey » Tue May 06, 2003 1:22 pm

darkmagicwillow: I completely agree with you. There were so many fascinating ways that Buff could have been brought back. The re-write should definately use one or more of them, not take the cheap shot like M.E. did.



I also agree that someone else, not the Scoobies, should be responsible for Buffy's return. This would place the gang in an interesting position; they lost their friend once and were just starting to heal. Now they will have to adjust to having her back and the fact that inevitably, they will lose her again and will have to go through the pain of loss all over again.



How about this for a scenario: A cult of demons try to use Buffy's body to revive their leader. The Scoobies crash the ritual and thus, Buffy is brought back accidently.



I don't think Willow would offer her life for Bufy's though: she wouldn't want to leave Tara.



LostWithoutTara: Sounds pretty good so far. One thing that irritated me was the whole 'magick as a quick-fix'. Magick has never been an easy option; it requires concentration and overuse is tiring. Nice to see you are addresing this.



Edited by: chilled monkey at: 5/6/03 12:32:30 pm
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby justin » Tue May 06, 2003 3:40 pm

LostWithoutTara: That plans looks pretty good.



You mention not knowing what to do with Giles. This is probably becuase the S6 idea that he would criticise Willow for her abuse of magic then just return to England and forget about her doesn't seem plausible.



I've had two ideas about how to fit him in

1: Giles could convince Willow to cut back on her use of dark magic. Then during a fight becuase Willow is refraining from using magic someone could get hurt, which would increase Willow's belief that she has to use magic to protect people



2: Giles could warn Willow to not cast a particular spell because of the dire consequences. Willow would cast the spell anyway and it would work without any ill effect. This would make Willow think that she knows more about magic than Giles and that she doesn't need to listen to his advice.



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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby Ginner WTluv » Tue May 06, 2003 4:55 pm

The plans are great and I'm really looking forward to this

I don't know if this has already been thought of and i've accidently missed it, but what with everyone coping with buffy's death over the summer and stuff, i wondered if you though about Willow and Tara actually sitting down and talking about the fight they had in Tough Love. What with Tara's obvious insecurities at the time.... just a thought.



~ Jen

I'd like to take a moment to talk about something that's happened lately. I'm also in love. It's a very special thing and I'm really rather proud of it. Yes, I'm in love with my own breasts. I feel no personal shame about this; in fact, I think this is the one. It's going to last. ~ Ruth

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby darkmagicwillow » Tue May 06, 2003 8:06 pm

LWT, I agree that the Willow plot is most important to a Kitten rewrite, but Buffy's resurrection and its consequences is also central to S6. Doing it right starts the season off on a solid footing, and is essential for Buffy's story.



It's also essential to Willow's story, because we need to know how magic works for Willow's descent into darkness to make sense. Obviously, it's not addictive, but should it really be Sabrina-esque as you call it? Smashed was ridiculous with that and Willow's constantly fluctuating power levels make it impossible to understand why or when she'd need to seek more power or even to feel anxious about Willow's safety because she always has the right spell to get out of any situation the writer wants her to. Non-ritual magic is great, but there should be a reason Willow can do it. Is it all stuff like telekinesis and telepathy that we've seen before, with some additions like pyrokinesis? There should be limitations, with some things still requiring ritual even for Willow.



I like your use of Rack. It's interesting to ask how he can give Willow enough power--perhaps a book or an artifact, something she'd have to hide from Tara and thus giving story opportunites in that way? It seems unreasonable that he would have enough personal power to spare for that, though it could be interesting to view Willow's power-draining actions at the end of S6 as vampiric and his transfer of power to her similar to siring a vampire, changing her willingly from someone who could draw from normal power sources, dark or light, like Tara, to someone who can only take.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 5/6/03 7:07:42 pm
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby jixer » Tue May 06, 2003 8:18 pm

Hello Kittens-



Just a quick comment.



Gosh it's easier to deal with post S5 fiction!



I'm working on my own Season 6 currently under the title Coda for Two Witches. Now that I've used Coda in the title the arc is getting longer. Oh well.



Good luck and I'm looking forward to your version of what should have been.



Jixer

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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby LostWithoutTara » Thu May 08, 2003 3:03 am

darkmagicwillow - I really like the idea you mentioned there with the vamping metaphor. I think I may employ that so that Willow slowly becomes 'vamped' by her use of black magic. With regards to Buffy, I've been thinking about that and about different demons and I like the idea of the Scoobs digging up the coffin to find nothing's there. Hence lots of angst - especially if some kind of dead-people eating demon was introduced. :evil



Willow's power still bugs me and I haven't really thought it all through yet, mainly as the five years of backstory haven't filled in much about magic. I'll have to think hard and post ideas here soon. :)



justin - Good ideas about Giles! Thanks! I'll try to incorporate them somehow. :)

Edited by: LostWithoutTara at: 5/8/03 2:06:33 am
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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby DarkRed » Thu May 08, 2003 9:46 am

Hey Kittens :wave



LostWithoutTara i think ur ideas are pertty good. especially ep 7. i really like the id of showing how these two girls developed in contrast to each-other. showing Tara's past would not only be welcome, but could put an extra magnitude in contrast to Willow's present descend into the black arts.



i too think that justin's Id's about giles are excellent. they serve as a good way to push willow downwards.

about the resurrection, i think it should still be Willow who does it, cuz this is a turning point for her and for her relationship with Tara. but this depends on how u take the dark-magic toll on her.. if u think that, like BTVS S6, it has taken charge on her and thus 'created' DMW, then this spell is mainly to blame - for it's the darkest type of spell she's done - if u think otherwise then focusing on what LostWithoutTara has suggested in her review is the best way to go. the most important thing is to stay in character with Willow, unlike ME did in S6. that's why showing Willow failing to protect ppl, searching ways to increas her powers, Rack in this form is excellent i think.. so on, all are great Id's and true to willow's nature - as a person who just wanted to help her friends the best she could, but found great power which she wasn't ready to handle with, and has slowly (focus on Slowly) 'corrupted' (failing to find a better word here) her.



another point is the way magic is done.. we should decide in what way it would be best to show this and then put it in the rewrite. 1) ritual magic, incantations and so on... 2) sabrina hand waving type (which is kinda lame and an easy plot device to avoid hard thinking) 3) a combination of both like darkmagicwillow has described.

i also really loved darkmagicwillow vampire metaphore.. i think it's another great way to bring out DMW.



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Re: Season Six - A Kitten Rewrite

Postby LostWithoutTara » Thu May 08, 2003 11:44 am

Having thought about the magic angle, I think that there should still be limits placed on what Willow can do without use of rituals and incantations but as her power grows so too may her innate ability. Willow seems to have a way to manipulate magic so easily - which no other character has exhibited. It might be plausible for Willow's magic to reach a hand gesture point, but I can envision this becoming extremely difficult and tiring for her, at least in the beginning.



The issue I'm having the most concern over is the mid-season development of Willow. The gradual descent is important but surely there has to be something that happens where she irretrievably crosses the line. If we want to develop DW, she has to be separated from Tara (and maybe from the gang full stop) as I can't see someone as sensitive (both emotionally and magically) as Tara failing to see that something so serious was happening to her soulmate. And if Willow does gradually descend, it will be hard to maintain empathy for her, especially if she is taking everything upon herself when she knows the others can help her. This may be a bit of a minefield to work through. Anyone got any suggestions?



I currently thinking along the lines of 'Wrecked' (don't worry, no drugginess :) ) in which Willow could inadvertantly severly hurt Dawn or another Scooby - this would create a gap and isolate her, allowing the final fall to happen. This would set the space for the showdown between Willow (black magic/irresponsibility) and Tara (white magic/ responsibility). The issues over the summer could then happen with Tara and Willow slowly rebuilding their relationship in the alternate seventh Season.

Edited by: LostWithoutTara at: 5/9/03 2:57:29 am
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Theory of Magic

Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu May 08, 2003 12:52 pm

Here's a short essay I wrote about types of magic, their ethics, and what is required to use each type. It should help in seeing where Willow's limits might be and what the consequences may be for using spells falling into different types of magic.



In fiction and myth, magic can be divided into three general classes. Many works use aspects of more than one class of magic, i.e. the Force in Star Wars is mostly psychic abilities with an element of real magic behind it.



1. Psychic abilities: developing the innate abilities of the human mind to supernormal capabilities, generally limited to the person's own body or extensions of the body (i.e., telepathy is a supernormal extension of speaking and telekinesis is a supernormal extension of using one's hands.) The Bene Gesserit abilities from the Dune books, ranging from increased speed to suspended animation to the voice of command, are an example of this type of magic. They may be innate abilities or they may be something anyone can develop. Other common abilities include clairvoyance and precognition. This type of magic generally requires nothing but mental concentration. There is no ethical imperative associated with this type of magic.



2. Invocations: requesting a spirit or deity to perform actions on one's behalf. Religious miracles fall into this category, but spells in many traditions invoke help for practictioners even if the casters are not priests. This type of magic generally requires words of supplication, though help can more riskily be demanded from these sources, and often requires a sacrifice of some sort, ranging from incense to the blood or organs of an animal. Belief and a good "credit rating" with these forces are the most important requirements for the caster's power. The ethics of this type of magic depend on the types of spirits invoked.



3. Classic/direct magic: controlling a non-personal force, which may despite its lack of consciousness still have specific ethical tendencies which can affect how a spell works. The caster performs supernormal actions by his command of this force, which may require innate ability but which always requires knowledge to apply effectively. These spells may be performed with words, symbols, gestures, and material objects that are relevant according to the laws of similarity or association. Which classes of components are required can vary between spells. This type of magic can have ethical consequences, generally as a forces of both evil and good magic existing for the caster to choose between, but it may also be an impersonal force like gravity that is neither good nor evil.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

darkmagicwillow
 


Mid-Season Rough Plan

Postby LostWithoutTara » Fri May 09, 2003 5:53 am

Rewrite Story Arcs – Mid-Season Section – Part a)



9 – Willow continues to go to Rack for more power, finding that the extra strength he gave her before is depleting. Spike and Buffy grow closer, Spike discovering that his chip doesn’t activate against Buffy. The Scoobs (sans Spuffy) try to take out some more of the freaky ‘Superdemons’. Willow kills a few but not before both Xander and Tara take very heavy beatings and are left severely injured. Buffy and Spike fight and eventually have sex.



10 – Buffy wakes up in the morning feeling different and disgusted with herself for sleeping with Spike. She beats the crap out of him (for want of a better phrase) and flees home to learn of all of last night’s events. Buffy is loathe to take charge of the gang again, so Willow picks up the mantle. She decides to perform a ritual to summon a demon she can control to take out the other ‘SDs’. She performs the spell in secret and sends the monster out.



11 – Buffy continues to go to Spike for sex, then beats him up afterwards. Spike is understandably getting very messed up ideas about their ‘relationship’ especially due to the fact that Buffy repeatedly says that he cannot love without a soul. Willow manipulates the monster to kill a couple more SDs. Her power level and control begins to plummet rapidly and she again goes back to Rack, becoming more and more dependant on what he can give her. Willow’s lapse causes the demon to become ‘free’ and it attacks Dawn, nearly killing her. Tara and the others save Dawn – Willow is unaware of this and returns home after obtaining her power ‘fix’. Tara tells Willow about what happened, and Willow cannot conceal her guilt. Tara is furious and worried about Willow’s actions.



- Is that rough plan okay? I’m thinking that a mind wipe could occur here, especially if Willow has arrived home after powering up and is still a bit ‘out’ from it. It would fit in with what’s happened so far with Willow wanting to appear a strong leader and not tolerating criticism of her magical skills very well. Given that I think we need to isolate Willow from the Scoobs to make her go fully dark, this seems like a good way to drive them apart. As for Spuffy, I’m following the main arc as shown BUT making modifications to make it more believable. There will be NO attempted rape. With Xanya, I want them to actually get married – some happiness would be good and it means we can explore the complexities of this kind of union.



LostWithoutTara
 


Re: Mid-Season Rough Plan

Postby justin » Fri May 09, 2003 6:16 am

That looks pretty good so far.



I agree about having Xanya marry in order to provide some happyness. One of the many problems with S6 was that it was so consistently depressing.



I understand, you should be with the person you l-love


I am


justin
 


Revised Outline

Postby darkmagicwillow » Fri May 09, 2003 8:17 am

I've revised the outline. I've changed the consequences of resurrection and used that to create long-term story issues and more importantly, smoothed out Willow's descent into darkness to make her more sympathetic and believable. I've also added episode titles indicating the themes of the episodes and tried to tie in the episode's scenes with those themes to improve cohesiveness. Everyone, let me know how you like it.





1-3: Substitute Slayers

Scoobies deal with Buffy's death: feelings of anger and denial, especially from Willow. W/T worry about Dawn growing to accept Buffybot as her sister. Giles returns to England, where he explains the situation to the Watcher's Council. As rough background, we learn that another Slayer has been called (although I don't plan on featuring yet another Slayer in the story arc.)



Lots of talking between Willow and Tara as to what they are going to do about the hellmouth and Buffy. Tara is obviously unhappy with the prospect of resurrection given the dangers but Willow is adamant that they have to do it given that Buffy may be in hell. Willow locates the Urn spell noting that it is one of only a few ?guaranteed? resurrection spells (i.e. they bring back the person correctly with no chance of going wrong as long as the spell is performed properly) ? the only other she?s found requires three fresh human hearts. She and Tara work on collecting the ingredients. Willow searches for the Urn unsuccessfully until she is given an address from Willy the Snitch, which takes her to Rack, who gives it to her in return for something slightly bad from the MB, a small taint of corruption to draw her closer to him.



Elsewhere, we see the girls working hard to fend off demons etc. Willow's constant use of powerful magic is leaving her drained and tired and she is unable to save some innocents who are subsequently killed. This sparks a major blame in Willow that she wasn't good enough and must become more powerful in order to protect the people she loves from harm, and sets up the main story arc.



4: Beyond Death

On Samhain, the gang digs up Buffy's coffin and performs the resurrection spell successfully. All of them are tested mentally/spiritually, seeing dark visions from beyond death which hint at possibilities for what happens at the end of this season, including a vision of Dark Willow for Tara. Anya sees visions from her past as a VD, which upset her now to her surprise. Buffy is weak and disoriented when she returns; all the Scoobies are shaken by what they've seen. Tara patches Buffy up and takes care of her at the Summers' house while the others finish the cleanup from the spell.



The spell works perfectly, but as a necessary, unavoidable consequence of its success, Willow has weakened the barrier between life and death. Not only will resurrections be easier in the future, but undead are more strongly connnected to life. No longer can a normal person stake a vampire, though Slayers still have the strength to force a stake through now hard bone to destroy the no-longer rotten but rather tough heart muscle. They're more human inside and more like Kakistos as far as the effort required to kill one with a stake. It's also easier for a vamp to be created, with any vamp bite causing sickness, eventual death, and raising as a vamp. The Scoobies don't know this yet.



5: Alive

Spike/Dawn learn that Buffy is back, Giles returns from the UK, and A/X announce their engagement. Everyone's happy, though a little worried about Buffy's weakness which W assures them is normal. Giles confronts W about the spell, ranting about the dangers, talking about the possibility of bringing something else back, perhaps even Glory. W doesn't listen to him because of his tone and she knows none of that happened, but she's still upset. At bedtime, after Willow asserts that everything's fine, she responds to T telling her that this is the place where she doesn't have to be brave. She tells T about her fight with Giles and T tells W that she felt something happen during the spell, like something metaphysical breaking. T's worried.



6: Drained

Willow heads up patrol again, while Buffy rests at home with Dawn and Tara. They're going to keep using Buffybot while Buffy's weak. She narrowly escapes a vamp with a stake sticking out of its sternum from where Xander staked it but couldn't reach the heart. All the vamps are hard to slay, but they're still found in normal quantities. After patrol, the Scoobies get together at the MB to research the new vamp problem. Spike confesses that he feels different somehow.



W makes up an excuse to leave the research party and seeks out Rack, as she was impressed with his knowledge/power. He gives her a talisman which lets her drain the lifeforce/magick (they're really the same thing as we can see from the end of s6) from another person to use for her own magic. Unbeknowst to both of them, it's more powerful now that Willow has weakened the laws of life, making lifeforce easier to transfer. This will later cause Rack to be shocked by W's power. W goes to the graveyard/hellmouth to collect ambient/remnant lifeforce/magic that lingers in places of death/magic with the talisman and finds her telekinesis greatly improved, easily allowing her to stake a vamp now. Her other magicks are also easier to use and stronger.



Tara/Buffy talk while Willow's away, and Buffy and Spike begin to grow closer. Buffy tells him that she was in heaven.



7: Family Reprise

As a pace break, a proper-Tara origin episode dealing with her abusive family, her mother, and most significantly, the way in which she was taught to respect magic. This is intercut with Willow using her own magic to fend off more monsters, on her own. A one point, she is jumped by some muggers and uses her new ability to drain them. Disturbed by what she's done, Willow temporarily worries, feeling that she lost control, but rationalises that they deserved it.



Dawn deals with her feelings about the depressed Buffy who has returned, having been happier this summer with Tara and Willow as her mothers and Buffybot as her big sister. They've deactivated the Buffybot (except on patrol?) because of Buffy's return and Dawn's upset about that too. Buffy discovers this feelings, either directly or by overhearing, and is devestated.



8: Tempted.

More closeness between Spike and Buffy ? they kiss. Dawn/Tara go out for movies and milkshakes by themselves and talk about Dawn and Tara's family issues from last chapter. More Xanya development and a few scenes in which we see Willow and Tara discussing events, but Willow does not disclose about her little visit to Rack's. Tara discovers the talisman and feels its dark power; Willow tries to explain but eventually gives in and says she'll get rid of it.



9: Altered.

Willow goes to Rack to return the talisman, not wanting to but wanting Tara more than the magic. He takes it back, then shows her how she can access the lifeforce of people/places without it. Using the talisman has changed her ability to access magic, giving her this new ability but causing her to lose her old way.



Spike and Buffy grow closer, Spike discovering that his chip doesn't activate against Buffy. They think that means there's something wrong with Buffy, but the chip is just a simple computer which has concluded that anyone walking around now who was dead before must be a vampire or demon of some sort. Humans don't do that.



The Scoobs (sans Spuffy) try to deal with the vampire menace, which is growing serious as their numbers increase due to vampiric saliva now converting people. Willow manages to cast the "ball of sunlight" spell, but not before Tara is bitten by one of the vamps. They worry but not seriously til next chapter.



10: Sickened

Buffy wakes up in the morning feeling different and disgusted with herself for sleeping with Spike. She beats the crap out of him (for want of a better phrase) and flees home to learn of all of last night?s events. When she returns home, she finds Willow/Dawn tending a sick, semiconscious Tara who's raving about blood and death in the moments she can talk. Buffy's upset with herself for not being on patrol, but acquiesces to Willow's Scooby leadership.



The Scoobies research the problem, with another visit to Rack for Willow. They find a solution together and finally understand what's happened with vampires, but Willow has to secretly drain Amy's magic to have the power to heal Tara and prevent her from becoming a vamp. Amy may be stuck as a rat since her magic was needed to maintain her mind/spirit in the animal form. This healing is only possible because it's easier to transfer lifeforce/magic due to Willow's weakening of the barrier in Buffy's resurrection. There are good consequences as well as bad ones.



11: Broken

Buffy continues to go to Spike for sex, then beats him up afterwards. Spike is understandably getting very messed up ideas about their ?relationship? especially due to the fact that Buffy repeatedly says that he cannot love without a soul.



W/T try to cast a spell together and it fails badly, with Willow accidentally draining a bit of Tara's power. Willow can no longer use magic cooperatively with another caster. Tara's upset and hurt, asking Willow what she's done to herself. Willow says she did it all to save Tara.



Willow realizes that Dawn is a huge power source with her new abilities. Dawn is willing to help Willow as a battery of sorts to save people from vamps, but also comes up with the idea of Willow about resurrecting her mother, maybe even Tara's mother, Dawn having learned about her in chapter 7, now that the barrier is weakened.



With the weakening of the laws of life, vamps are too numerous and hard to kill so Willow needs more power on patrol. Vamps kill the reactivated Buffybot on patrol and Dawn is hurt by its loss, upsetting Buffy even more. The world begins to take on hints of the Wishverse at night. The current mayor makes an agreement with the vamps, ceding part of Sunnydale to them at night.



12: Consumed

Willow confronts the mayor about his deal with the vamps. She uses mind control magic here with the mayor, against someone she feels is evil, selling out humanity to the bloodsuckers. Controlling the Mayor, Willow has effectively taken over the human part of Sunnydale for the forces of Good as she still considers herself. She uses her power to squash child services' attempt to take Dawn away. Tara is happy even as she's worried about Willow's actions.



13-19: Divided

The rift between the Scoobies begins, with each person choosing sides. Some Scoobies support Willow's darker actions as the situation with the vamps grows worse, but Buffy tries to take back her leadership after she learns from Tara what Willow's doing.



The Scoobies have dealt with a single superstrong villain many times, but numbers are a different issue, especially as the vamps start affecting people they know: parents, old friends from high school/college (Jonathan, perhaps Tara turns back to the Wicca group as she grows apart from Willow and finds someone there who could help her then be attacked.)



By episode 19, Willow and Tara have broken up and the last of the Scoobies has stopped following Willow's leadership. Willow is forced to contemplate finding a permanent, universal solution to the situation in Sunnydale as she can't keep up this fight every night alone. She knows what to do (restore the barrier) but she needs power and lots of it, leading to episode 20.



20: Hellmouth

Willow seeks out the ultimate source to draw power from: the Hellmouth. She defeats the Scoobies who oppose her, dark magicks being the best for combat purposes, but does everything she can to avoid hurting them. She's devastated that she's had to fight Tara and carries a weakened, defeated Tara home to place on the bed that used to be theirs. Willow kisses Tara on the forehead as she sleeps and promises her that she'll make everything right with her new power.



21-22: Finale

Willow tries to solve the weakening of the barrier btw life and death with powerful dark magick, justifying her means by her end. It's hard to restore/heal with dark magicks, but it's easy to fight so she defeats all the Scoobies again, except for Tara who she tearfully confronts, asking her why they have to fight like this. She tells Tara that Tara doesn't have the power for this; they have to do it Willow's way.



Tara says she does and opposes Willow with an alternate solution involving giving/healing/restoring the balance involving skill/love that doesn't require the sheer raw power that Willow has taken. However, it still requires enough power to drain Tara's entire lifeforce, but she's willing to make that sacrifice for the world and to restore Willow.



With the beginnings of the restoration of the barrier btw life/death, Willow's power is no longer vampiric and she's able to give Tara the support she needs to complete the spell without dying.

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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 5/9/03 9:37:41 am
darkmagicwillow
 


Re: Revised Outline

Postby chilled monkey » Fri May 09, 2003 10:25 am

darkmagicwillow: I like the sound of that! Especially the 'Ultra-vampires' concept (reminds me of the Reapers from Blade 2). I also like how you've provided a way for Will to be sympathetic, while still gradually becoming darker. I'm glad that her powers are fixed by series end



Justin: I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on Xanya. Nothing really bad has ever happened to them and that isn't fair. I think that it's about time that something really nasty happened to them.

chilled monkey
 


Re: Revised Outline

Postby darkmagicwillow » Fri May 09, 2003 10:32 am

Thanks. I haven't seen the sequel to Blade, but I wanted to do vampires because the show is Buffy the Vampire Slayer after all. They lost that focus towards the end of season 3, with Buffy being too tough for vampires and the show has lost something as a result. Staking and sunlight seemed to be the two most obvious areas where better re-animation would improve vampires and staking made the most sense, though I could be convinced either way or to do both if people think that makes more sense.



I'm glad you find the more gradual descent of Willow sympathetic; as LWT mentioned earlier, it's a difficult path to follow--making her dark but still sympathetic to the reader. Having the major plot points flow from the resurrection from more powerful vampires to Tara's illness to the spell that heals her to Willow's ease in gaining powers in her new way makes the story more cohesive through the season too. There's another balance in the consequences of Buffy's resurrection--they shouldn't be immediately obvious so Willow can disregard warnings from Giles and others and feel justified initially, yet they need to be broad enough for Willow to realize that she's really made a mistake, even though her initial attempts at fixing it will be wrongheaded.





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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit." -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

Edited by: darkmagicwillow at: 5/9/03 10:23:49 am
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Re: Revised Outline

Postby LostWithoutTara » Fri May 09, 2003 12:02 pm

Quote:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on Xanya. Nothing really bad has ever happened to them and that isn't fair. I think that it's about time that something really nasty happened to them.




The last thing I'd want to see would be Xanya falling apart. It's a huge cliche on the show that no couple can be happy. Let someone be cheerful. With Buffy's fling with Spike and BMW, we need it!



dmw - Nice outline. I'd like to elaborate on the Spuffy/ Xanya storylines, which I'll post soon.

Edited by: LostWithoutTara at: 5/9/03 11:06:19 am
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